<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes cf034b0 - tg_owt: bump for rebuild
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<m[m]>
Hi! I have an issue installing Haiku on an old HP laptop. Most things work, but the HP laptop (BIOS) can't regocnize the Haiku disk (1 partition Haiku/BFS). Any suggestions? I marked the disk bootable as well to no avail.
<m[m]>
Oh never mind, BoottMann to the rescue. Too long ago I did a BIOS install...
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<HaikuUser>
Is there any one definitive way to get external HDMI monitors working? Got an old Acer laptop which runs beta 3 fairly well, but never managed to get external monitor running...
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 7d005fa - Kotatogram: bump version
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<Begasus>
bbl
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<m[m]>
i have a weird issue (mouse and keyboard sometimes not working on laptop) that seems to be mitigated by enabling "Don't call the BIOS". Can I make that flag permanent across boots?
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<Anarchos>
m[m] i think so, though i can't remember where
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<PulkoMandy>
this setting does not seem to be available in the kernel settings file, so it seems you can't
<waddlesplash>
m[m]: are you quite sure of that?
<waddlesplash>
did you verify that entering the boot menu itself doesn't "mitigate" the problem?
<jadedctrl_>
humdinger: yea, it looks good! even with the dark themes I've tried
<humdinger>
there are always border case, if e.g. someone sets a bright red color as list background...
<humdinger>
So, I'll merge since it's OK for now at least.
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* humdinger
is idle: dinner
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<nephele>
humdinger: for an edge-case free way we should get HSL/HSV color functions, that way you can copy the brightness from one color to another one
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<humdinger>
It seems like rgb_color has a Brightness()...
<humdinger>
though I still don't know how to exactly work out the algorithm.
<nephele>
hsl and hsv isn't rgb, they are different color systems
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<humdinger>
ok. so the brightness in rgb space doesn't help?
<PulkoMandy>
that doesn't make sense
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<PulkoMandy>
a color in rgb space has a r, g, and b
<PulkoMandy>
you can compute a brightness
<PulkoMandy>
but you can't really do a SetBrightness that works reliably
<PulkoMandy>
so you need to do it in a way that can represent brightness separately from other info about the color, this is what HSV/HSL colorspaces try to do (mostly): they split the info in a different way: hue (is this red, gren, yellow, blue, ?), saturation (is this grey or a very pure color?) and value or lightness (is this bright or dark?)
<PulkoMandy>
this system is more intuitive to work with, so ideally you would work in this way, and convert to RGB only at the last moment when you need to display something on screen
<humdinger>
ok, I leave that colour juggling to the professionals :)
<m[m]>
<waddlesplash> "did you verify that entering the..." <- No I didn’t, you’re right.
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<nephele>
Is there a "direct" way to figure out if a scrollbar is scrolled to the end? or if the coresponding view inside a scrollview is? I've looked at BScrollBar->Value but that is absolute (in size) aswell as ->Maximum but that just returns a ridicilously large value
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<AlienSoldier>
we can't reopend our own ticket in trac?
<AlienSoldier>
nevermind, i always forget webpositive never auto log me
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<waddlesplash>
lol gdk gets the server time by changing a bogus property
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<AlienSoldier>
In the permission i know what user refer to (i guess this is me), what is "group" and especially "other"?
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<AlienSoldier>
*user = owner
<nephele>
Each file is owned by a user and a group, each user is in one or more groups. You get the permission like this: if you are the owner you get those, if you are in one group you get those additionally and you always get the ones for other
<nephele>
this is poxis user permissions anyhow
<AlienSoldier>
in any case i can't even unckeck those, they come back if i uncheck them
<nephele>
Yes, haiku does implement this... but the gui runs as root, everything you use runs as root. you effectively always have all permissions for files
<nephele>
It's (on haiku) currently only relevant if you deal with ported software, or if you want to configure something like ssh that actually runs as another user
<AlienSoldier>
don't even seem to be in liste process on my system
<AlienSoldier>
i guess i will reboot to try to clean the memory a bit
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<AlienSoldier>
nope soundplay is still borked after a reinstall.
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<AlienSoldier>
wow, complete soundplay mess
<nephele>
waddlesplash: nice progress!
<nephele>
maybe you can port macopix :P
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<AlienSoldier>
got soundplay to start again, i guess you must not check out the internal playlist thing in the setting :)
<AlienSoldier>
I have a broken link called "Drop SoundPlayNQ here", anybody else have that when having soundplay installed?
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<AlienSoldier>
Clicking on "all Soundplay playlists" is still a mystery. It open a quesry window that never display anything and the harddrive search without end.
<AlienSoldier>
*query
<PulkoMandy>
that's common for old BeOS apps, the install process was to manually drop things into symlinks to /boot/beos/whatever and we don't have a /boot/beos anymore
<PulkoMandy>
at some point we had a compatibility package that would create /boot/beos and setup some links there to help with that
<PulkoMandy>
not sure it was updated for package management? (the link would need to be adjusted to point to /system/non-packaged I suppose)
<AlienSoldier>
PulkoMandy but i use a packaged app. I guess it was not cleaned out before being packaged. Or some quirk was needed to have it work.
<AlienSoldier>
ho, the query finally stoped and it found nothing.
<AlienSoldier>
relaunching it no longer search for long
<AlienSoldier>
but i am still at square one, file cropper launch at the same time as soundplay :)
<AlienSoldier>
In Info/attribues we can expend the feild of "value" and "type but not of "name". Can't read all the name, it end with "..."
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<AlienSoldier>
bugs, bugs everywhere :P
<AlienSoldier>
wanted to check if filechopper was having somehow the same filetype as a soundplay plungin or something soundplay need to activate when it start. In any case, not verysafe if something like that can happen.
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<cocobean>
I happen to like Monet's use of RGB and CMYK.
<cocobean>
;)
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<AlienSoldier>
still no flakon 32 bit in the depot
<AlienSoldier>
there is flacon, but that is an audio app
<AlienSoldier>
*falkon, falcon
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