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<potatocannon> will i be able to upgrade from beta to official release?
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<potatocannon> ?
<AlienSoldier> potatocannon that is the goal
<potatocannon> sweet :)
<potatocannon> was just fearful i would have to reinstall once official release is out
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JD5v8
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] LordOfDragons 784e81e - updated recipe to dragengine-1.8.1 . requires now libwebp package (#6481)
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<rennj> g'money!
<Begasus> ;)
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<Niklas[m]> I just found a quite good and recent review of Haiku: https://thekernalblog.github.io/Haiku-OS,-The-Linux-Alternative/ I'm a bit sad that package availability is still seen so negative now that we have so much stuff ported,but in the summary it's rather positive.
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JD5uF
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 9410166 - haiku_svg_icon_theme: bump version
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JD5zc
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 5e267f6 - QtHaikuPlugins: bump version
<Begasus> Nice Niklas[m] and yes, too bad he didn't check out HaikuDepot to see what's available :)
<Begasus> On that note, just finished building CudaText on 32bit :) https://ibb.co/jhpKpR2
<Niklas[m]> I think he did,but expected proprietary stuff from Windows or Linux to work.At least he found out that old 32bit BeOS applications work.
<jonathan[m]12345> Hi everyone. I am trying to get a Tor-relay on Haiku up and running. Just for the fun of it. But it seems to be stuck at reading entropy
<jonathan[m]12345> crypto_strongest_rand_fallback(): Reading entropy from "/dev/urandom"
<jonathan[m]12345> What is the equivilent of /dev/random or /dev/urandom in haiku?
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<Begasus> no idea here jonathan[m]12345
<jonathan[m]12345> Begasus: I was just stupid, they exist - the application seems to not understand it 🙂
<Begasus> ;)
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<Yonle> Well, Hello everyone. I'm new in Haiku OS. Came from Linux & OpenBSD. I just can't get Intel speaker working. Is there any workaround?
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<Niklas[m]> Try installing Open Sound System drivers.The built-in Intel HD Audio driver doesn't play nice with some hardware.
<Yonle> In Haikudepot?
<Niklas[m]> Yes
<Yonle> I see, Thanks!
<Begasus> you can always use the alternativ in Terminal: pkgman search opensound also :)
<Niklas[m]> Well,I can't when I'm at Manjaro currently ;)
<Niklas[m]> But the Depot website is really helpful.Some Unixes should take that as a good example :P
<Begasus> HaikuDepot should list it also, but I'm used to pkgman ;) But yes, sometimes I check the depot site also
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JD57Y
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ad276c3 - libqt5pas, add libVersion(Compat) (#6482)
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<Niklas[m]> Is there anyone who has some experience with hardware?My laptop doesn't show anything anymore.It worked fine some minutes ago,now when I power it on,it beeps long once and short twice and then seems to boot normally (I see it from the HDD LED) but the screen stays black.Does anyone know what's wrong here?
<Begasus> Beeps are usually a bad thing ?
<Niklas[m]> I know :(
<Niklas[m]> Likely some defective hardware,right?
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<outsidecontext> just noticed the the qthaikuplugins now supports the native file dialog. that's awesome
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<Yonle> Hmm..... So nightly is actually something like alpha release....
<Yonle> And the current stable ones is Beta3....
<Yonle> Well, The nightly ones is small, though. I may gonna install Stable ones
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JDdON
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 9f0b00a - qt6_base: bump plugins revision
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<Not-5726> [haiku/website-inc] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JDdFb
<Not-5726> [haiku/website-inc] kallisti5 5ea4e66 - trademarks: Update trademark information to be more accurate
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<danboid> How do I list files in an installed hpkg?
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<_Dario_> hi danboid.
<_Dario_> If you want to know the files that an HPKG contents, you can select the installed package in HaikuDepot and check the "contents" tab.
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<Begasus> in Terminal: "package list -p <packagename>"
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<danboid> ok thanks
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<danboid> Is it recommended to install the latest beta or a recent nightly?
<Begasus> that should be <pathtopackagenmane>
<Begasus> depends on your needs
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<Begasus> thanks KapiX :)
<KapiX> um, channel mode set?
<KapiX> ok, I don't know what exactly did I do '^.^
<Begasus> you banned eiubhssb (or so it seem to)?
<KapiX> yeah, but it also says mode +b set on the channel
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<KapiX> perhaps it's first time someone was banned here?
<Begasus> not sure, never used it (and can't now) ;)
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<waddlesplash> KapiX: these have different nicks each time, it's not very useful to +b
<waddlesplash> just /kick as fast as possible
<KapiX> I suppose so
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<Begasus> Taking a break ....
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<PulkoMandy> it seems banning in OFTC is indeed a channel mode (which makes sense because it applies to the channel, and you can ban a mask/pattern which could match multiple users)
<PulkoMandy> I think it's the same on all IRC servers
<andreasdr> Hi
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<HaikuUser> hello i managed to install haiku, but there is no boot volume detected unless i plug in the usb stick which i used to install haiku
<HaikuUser> is there any way i can install a boot volume to the drive haiku is on?
<HaikuUser> i thought the installer did this but i guess not
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<PulkoMandy> it doesn't yet for EFI booting
<PulkoMandy> I think this guide should explain what to do: https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/uefi_booting/
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<Vidrep_64> I think I'm seeing this issue when attempting to burn a disc using BurnItNow https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/11100
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<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JDFAj
<Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 8f3905c - nspr: move headers in nspr directory
<Vidrep_64> I've run the app from a terminal, and after copying wav files from an audio disk, it fails to find the directory where the files are located "Cannot open '/boot/system/cache/burnitnow_clone_wavs/*.wav'."
<Vidrep_64> If I take the command line used by the app and run it in a terminal it works perfectly
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<Vidrep_64> terminal output cdrecord -eject speed=8 -sao dev=0,2,0 gracetime=2 -v -dao -useinfo -text /boot/home/config/cache/burnitnow_clone_wavs/*.wav
<Vidrep_64> error "cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/boot/system/cache/burnitnow_clone_wavs/*.wav'."
<PulkoMandy> the * will only work if the shell (bash in terminal) parses it and converts it to the full list of names, and passes it to cdrecord
<PulkoMandy> cdrecord doesn't know what to do with * by itself
<PulkoMandy> BurnItNow would need to run the app through a shell, or does the replacement of the * by itself (there is a C library function for that)
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<Vidrep_64> In the source - BString files(path.Path()); files.Append("/*.wav");
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<Vidrep_64> If I launch BurnItNow from the terminal the command is passed correctly "cdrecord -eject speed=8 -sao dev=0,2,0 gracetime=2 -v -dao -useinfo -text /boot/home/config/cache/burnitnow_clone_wavs/*.wav" but it does not burn a disc
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<Vidrep_64> Pasting that string into another terminal works
<Vidrep_64> un from the app I get this: cdrecord: No such file or directory
<PulkoMandy> yes, because terminal will replace the * with the name of the files before starting cdrecord
<PulkoMandy> but burnitnow won't do it
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<Vidrep_64> Is it a problem in the BurnItNow code or on Haiku side?
<PulkoMandy> in BurnItNow
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<Vidrep_64> Where? http://0x0.st/-CWc.png
<andreasdr> <3
<Not-5726> [haiku/website-inc] leavengood pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JDbes
<Not-5726> [haiku/website-inc] jt15s fe43f73 - Updated merchandise info + update FAQ
<Not-5726> [haiku/website-inc] leavengood 1a041b0 - Merge pull request #24 from jt15s/merchandise
<PulkoMandy> Vidrep_64: I pushed a possible fix to the "glob" branch in BurnItNow (git fetch ; git checkout origin/glob)
<PulkoMandy> let me know if it works, I don't have a cd burner
<andreasdr> I can try tooooo If you want me to try :)
<andreasdr> Sorry for the jumping in
<Vidrep_64> andreasdr, by all means :)
<andreasdr> You mean "try by all means" or "sorry for jump in by all means"? :DDD
<PulkoMandy> help is always welcome :)
<andreasdr> Ok. How to test? :D
<Vidrep_64> It would be easier for me to apply it locally as a diff
<PulkoMandy> you need to get the sourcecode of burnitnow from the branch I just pushed, build it, and try to burn an audio cd
<andreasdr> Ok.
<andreasdr> Then let me know the URL of the repo and send me the patch to andreas@drewke.net
<andreasdr> Or write both in Email
<andreasdr> Ill test in next hour
<PulkoMandy> https://github.com/haikuarchives/burnitnow and the patch is in the "glob" branch
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<andreasdr> Ah nice. Give me 30 mins max
<andreasdr> So do I need just to build glob branch? Or do I need to apply a patch?
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<PulkoMandy> you can probably download the change as a patch from github, but I'm not sure how to do it and my web browser or internet connection is not cooperating today
<Vidrep_64> I just did a copy/paste to my working copy. I'm running a test now
<Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy "I'm not sure how to do it " :o
<andreasdr> Should I try too? I would do it right now.
<andreasdr> Needed to finish something in last 10 minutes
<andreasdr> Ill just try
<andreasdr> Need to reboot
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<Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, Voila! It works
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<Vidrep_64> Sort of
<andreasdr> Oh just booted Haiku. Do not need to test anymore?
<Vidrep_64> I copied a CD with 4 tracks, but BurnItNow is treating it as a single track when burning
<Vidrep_64> Wait, incorrect
<Vidrep_64> Yeah, it's now doing Track 2
<Vidrep_64> Sorry for jumping the gun
<andreasdr> Ok. Then I dont need to test right, so will do my stuff. No worries. But please be informed, I am most of time willing to test :D
<andreasdr> Cool to have CD+DVD burning working!
<andreasdr> Actually on FBSD I was for now tooo lazy to set everything up to get burning working. So I always boot Windows to burn CDs. Lazy meeeeee.
<Vidrep_64> Everything was working already. Only cloning an audio disc was left to get working
<andreasdr> Oh. Nice. Great work.
<Vidrep_64> It burned all four tracks OK with correct track names and everything
<AlienSoldier> CD will have his comeback like vinyle and cassette, just a question of time.
<Vidrep_64> andreasdr, we had disabled audio disk cloning in the HaikuArchives repository, so your test wouldn't have gone too far
<AlienSoldier> hopefully that time they will make them as high quality as a real matrixed one.
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<Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, thank you so much!
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<Vidrep_64> There's still a few small glitches with disc copying which i've already worked out myself, but getting the burning working was the final piece of the puzzle. thanks again
<PulkoMandy> ok, let's see if I manage to push to master branch now (or if not I'll have to try again tomorrow)
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