#haiku on 2021-12-21 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:56 <cramit> Hi all, can someone recommend a way to access UPNP shares in VLC or play media via local SSH?

00:57 <cramit> I tried via Konqueror and got as far as mounting the LAN SSH share, but the "Open" context menu isn't opening any of the media.

00:57 <cramit> *Krusader

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02:27 <bparker_> cramit: I think you would have to open a layer2 tunnel over the link somehow to do that

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03:57 <cramit> bparker_ thanks, I will look into layer2 tunneling if it will help me watch videos over the LAN.

03:58 <cramit> previously I have used FuSE I think, and also a samba app of some sort. If there's a recommended way to do either of those things I'd love to hear about it.

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04:42 <Yonle> Well, seems like i have a large problem, lol

04:42 <Yonle> Touchpad does not seems to work on Haiku

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05:09 <cramit> command to start tracker?

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05:14 <cramit> I type "Tracker" at the terminal but it just opens the Tracker prefs window. Would like to bind Tracker file management to a shortcut, but need to know the command...

05:16 <augiedoggie> it's /boot/system/Tracker but i think it's also one of things that will get restarted if you use the vulcan death grip and choose "restart desktop"

05:19 <augiedoggie> you can also manage it with the launch_roster command, like 'launch_roster restart x-vnd.be-trak'

05:20 <cramit> interesting, thanks augiedoggie. So "/boot/system/Tracker /boot/home/" works great, that's good to know!

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05:21 <augiedoggie> if you just want to open a specific folder then you can use the open command, 'open /boot/home'

05:22 <cramit> oh! Good to know.

05:22 <cramit> thanks for the tips.

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05:30 <cramit> augiedoggie, just fyi--it says "Can't launch open, no such file exists" if I use it via Shortcuts.

05:31 <cramit> But the full path to Tracker + foldername method works OK.

05:31 <augiedoggie> hm, you might have to specify the path to the open command

05:31 <cramit> that makes sense. Is it worth using instead of calling Tracker direct?

05:32 <augiedoggie> either way is fine, i have it set like that in my shortcuts

05:32 <cramit> OK, cool

05:32 <augiedoggie> the open command will find the Tracker executable and launch it for you using the system mimetype database

05:33 <augiedoggie> mine has the path in it '/bin/open /boot/home'

05:33 <cramit> ah, so it's more versatile, that helps.

05:35 <cramit> does Haiku have a roll-up window feature? Only showing the titlebar

05:36 <augiedoggie> yes, but i can't remember the shortcut, it's listed in the userguide i think

05:37 <augiedoggie> maybe i'm thinking of BeOS

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05:49 <cramit> kernel panic...

05:50 <cramit> is there a way to roll up windows so you can only see the titlebar?

05:50 <augiedoggie> i think BeOS may have had that feature but i don't see the option in Haiku

05:51 <cramit> ah, bummer. OK it seems like there will at least be a workaround for too many windows in my face :D

05:53 <augiedoggie> depending on what you're doing you can stack the windows by holding the windows key as you drag the title bars together

05:53 <DHowett> it could've been something obscure like double-click or triple-click

05:53 <DHowett> on the tab

05:53 <augiedoggie> yeah, maybe

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05:59 <cramit> ah, that's a good idea, sticking them together does declutter quite a bit.

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06:06 <Begasus> g'morning peeps

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07:28 <Yonle> Hello again everyone

07:29 <Yonle> is there anyway to get the b43 driver working on Haiku OS? I want to revive this 15 Years old laptop

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07:46 <Begasus> Checked the forum Yonle ?

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08:09 <Yonle> Hm, Maybe not yet

08:09 <Yonle> FreeBSD have it, but it's not ready for Haiku yet

08:09 <Yonle> Also help! I can't connect to internet via usb :(

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11:03 <Anarchos> Is it possible to make haiku to connect automatically to wifi at startup ?

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12:15 <Begasus> afaik it already does Anarchos ?

12:31 <PulkoMandy> it should, but there is a bug on some machines and no one knows why

12:31 <PulkoMandy> on my machine it always works perfercly so I can't investigate this

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13:06 <Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to haiku [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JDhG7

13:06 <Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy afd976b - Remove some dead code and unneeded extra invalidation.

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13:34 <Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to haiku [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JDh8s

13:34 <Not-5726> [haiku/haikuwebkit] pulkomandy 41d95e1 - Use transparent color for offscreen view.

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15:33 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] pulkomandy pushed 3 commits to master [+4/-0/±3] https://git.io/JDhdv

15:33 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 f0840de - BuildMaster: Cleanup builders. Untangle spaghetti

15:33 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 744bc14 - BuildMaster: Prevent execution without system-packages/initial-packages

15:33 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 43ae556 - BuildMaster: Add some hints to error message

15:33 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JDhdt

15:33 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] davidkaroly 975505d - python_bootstrap: enable parallel build

15:34 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/JDhdZ

15:34 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports.cross] davidkaroly 1621010 - ncurses6: add new recipe for version 6.2

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15:42 <extrowerk_3> Look, a Haiku only ebook-reader! https://hackaday.com/2021/02/18/an-e-book-reader-but-just-for-haiku/

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16:01 <Begasus> Too small for me ;)

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16:05 <andreasdr> Hi

16:06 <Anarchos> Begasus no it doesnt for me, even if it only finds one wifi network

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16:08 <Begasus> hi andreasdr

16:08 <Begasus> to bad Anarchos :/

16:09 <Anarchos> Begasus where should i look , into syslog ?

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16:10 <nephele> spam: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/16900#comment:15

16:15 <andreasdr> Hi Begasus

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16:35 <Begasus> lol, emptying Trash, "completed in several years"

16:35 <Begasus> in/after*

16:36 <nephele> I would kind of like a filesystem that had atomic operations for deleting folders, using rm -rf and waiting an hour seems really silly :)

16:36 <Begasus> Anarchos, PulkoMandy replied earlier "it should, but there is a bug on some machines and no one knows why"

16:36 <Begasus> right nephele :)

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16:37 <nephele> Anarchos: I am in a similar situation, but some wifi networks autoconnect at boot, some others do not strangely enough

16:40 <humdinger> I use a "ifconfig" script in ~/config/settings/boot/Launch/

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16:45 <nephele> That shouldn't be neccesary

16:45 <nephele> maybe this can be investigated when doing wifi ssid-handover

16:46 <humdinger> sure, it's a bug, no doubt about it. but I have to somehow live with it atm :)

16:47 <Anarchos> Begasus thanks for the answer, i missed it

16:50 <Begasus> np :)

16:50 <Begasus> hi humdinger !

16:51 <Begasus> k, any way to add a Deskbar entry with a post-install script?

16:51 <nephele> why with a post intall script?

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16:52 <Begasus_32> /Opslag/haikuports/sys-devel/fpcupdeluxe/additional-files> ./install_fpcupdeluxe.sh

16:52 <Begasus_32> ln: failed to create symbolic link '/boot/system/data/deskbar/menu/Applications/FPCUPdeluxe': Read-only file system

16:52 <nephele> but yes: ln -s (command) /boot/home/config/settings/deskbar/menu/blah

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16:52 <Begasus> because I need the binary in a read/write folder, and can't do that in a recipe (korli mentioned using a post-install script for that)

16:52 <nephele> Begasus32: If that fails, let it fail. i guess. but you can just create the link yourself in Install()

16:53 <nephele> no need to use a post-install script

16:54 <Begasus> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/6459

16:55 <nephele> Begasus: why are you trying to put stuff into non-packaged?

16:55 <Begasus> it needs read/write access

16:55 <nephele> to a binary?

16:55 <Begasus> no, the binary pull the source for fpc and lazarus in there

16:55 <Begasus> pulls*

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16:56 <nephele> I'm not sure i understand, why does that matter? you have rw during the build, no?

16:57 <Begasus> on launch it creates some *.ini files in that directory, doesn't work if it's installed in $binDir

16:58 <Begasus> you can change the patch for the sources afterwards (to pull them in), but initialy it needs to be read/write enabling

16:59 <nephele> Sounds like it should be patched to just not use that directory for that?

17:00 <Begasus> this is a pre-made binary

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17:01 <nephele> for haiku?

17:01 <Begasus> yes

17:01 <nephele> why isn't it build in the build?

17:01 <Begasus> like the fpc_bin packages (etc)

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17:02 <Begasus> no one cared so far?

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17:05 <Begasus> I think it needs lazarus to build ;)

17:05 <Begasus> fpc/lazarus* https://github.com/LongDirtyAnimAlf/fpcupdeluxe/

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17:07 <Begasus> anyway, added the post-install script to the PR now, thanks for the pointer earlier :)

17:08 <nephele> it will stick around on deinstall like this, it's not a very clean solution

17:09 <Begasus> hence the wip/help wanted label :)

17:10 <Begasus> need to figure out how that's done (remove those entries when a package is removed) ...

17:11 <nephele> Ideally: not at all, just have it in the package in the proper place

17:11 <Begasus> heading out for a while, cu peeps

17:11 <nephele> you can also create the symlink in the build ahead of time

17:12 <Begasus> not sure if that works (had it in) ... but that's for later/tomorrow

17:13 <nephele> it should work fine if the symlink is relative

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17:43 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/JDjGG

17:44 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] phw d4b653b - picard: release 2.7.1 (#6484)

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18:35 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JDj8Z

18:35 <Not-5726> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb bb62647 - yt_dlp: bump to 2021.12.01

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18:51 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55742] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5fcc7f71b5c0+%5E50a4c1867835

18:51 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a8b90daa8a34 - Fix more problems with DHCP timers

18:51 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5fcc7f71b5c0 - ethernet: do not log everytime there is a media change.

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20:16 <Begasus> heading down, g'night peeps

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20:36 <danboid> It it possible to update from the stable repo /install to nightly/master without starting over, reinstalling from scratch?

20:37 <danboid> buy just switching the repos and updating?

20:37 <Niklas[m]> Replace the /r1beta3/ in the repo url with /master/ and run a full system upgrade,that should bring you to the nightly version

20:40 <nephele> yes, no. you can just switch branches if you want, but this won't retroactively install packages that would be on the respective branch by default

20:40 <nephele> so if you switch to the beta from the nightly you won't neccesarily get stuff like the userguide for example

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20:44 <cramit> What text editors are people here using?

20:45 <danboid> vim and kate

20:47 <nephele> I use Koder

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