<robo8008135[m]>
and im here to ask a stupid question
<robo8008135[m]>
is haiku posix compliant?
<nephele>
Yes it is
<nephele>
It's not /certified/ (I think only MacOS is?) but we do follow posix closely for the most part
<nephele>
(Like most OS it's not perfect... for example posix sais echo takes /no/ arguments, but almost all posix oses have added a -n argument to it :)
<robo8008135[m]>
(I should've just checked the page for haiku in wine wiki)
<nephele>
Damn bridge. anyhow, no there is no third layer, but stuff in wine doesn't /only/ rely on posix
<nephele>
they expect stuff from the OS that is /not/ specified in posix too, but that is then platform specific code in wine
<nephele>
(or it's stuff where the platform has to adjust to support some apis needed)
<robo8008135[m]>
got it
<nephele>
the initial wine haiku page mentioned for example that haiku did not have libm, but wine was trying to link against it but this failed. wine said they did not want to support an OS that doesn't have this library available to link against (as in to not change the build), haiku said it's not required to be available under the name (it's in our libroot). Now Haiku has an empty libm for applications that want t
<nephele>
o blindly link against it :)
<nephele>
Lots of tiny things, but posix really is just not enough to have a working OS, and the rest is sometimes different sometimes the same.
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<PulkoMandy>
well, the libm thing is actually specified in posix
<PulkoMandy>
in an indirect way: they specify the cc and c99 commands, and in both document that -lm is the command line switch to link in the math library
<PulkoMandy>
so that's why we added that "fake" library to make it work that way
<nephele>
Heh, you learn something new everyday... posix is a box full of suprises :)
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-3/±0] https://git.io/Jy5VA
<Not-5726>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 52a5184 - Telegram: bump version
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<LegendaryAmerican>
iConnectivity Mio2 works.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
how well it works, I have to look into. but it showed at least 4 ports. the mio2 is firmware configurable, I have to check if its possible to configure without a software frontend.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
maybe someone else can check the Keith McMillen device..
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<LegendaryAmerican>
this is important. a usb midi connector is 50 for one good enough. the mio2, I think is 89. for just that much more you have amazing capabilities.
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<nephele>
I want to get a usb midi connector, i got gifted a keyboard i can use with haiku then
<LegendaryAmerican>
I have done the most basic tests, see if haiku can see the ports, it can on the Mio2. i will be plugging in some things, and trying some stuff out soon.
<LegendaryAmerican>
the Mio2 is powerful.
<LegendaryAmerican>
but i think you have to have special software to configure the firmware.
<LegendaryAmerican>
the KMI Midi Expander is 64 dollars at sweetwater, but only has two midi ports.
<LegendaryAmerican>
but it has usb midi expand..
<LegendaryAmerican>
just like the mio2
<LegendaryAmerican>
the bome box is 200 dollars, but ultra powerful.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
and I dont think that requires special software to configure.
<LegendaryAmerican>
there is also doremidi, I know nothing about.
<LegendaryAmerican>
whatever you do dont get a china usb midi
<LegendaryAmerican>
they didnt make them right.
<LegendaryAmerican>
my m-audio mtrack 2x2m midi ports also work in haiku.
<LegendaryAmerican>
hoping they can get the audio for that running too, and control interface matching.
<LegendaryAmerican>
both the mio2 and the m-audio 2x2m are case made of metal. theyre solid pro hardware.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
technically speaking.. the mio2 showed four in and four out midi ports in patchbay. it has actually 6 ports total and Ive configured on firmware for at least one in to be an out.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
the mio2 is very cool, but like I said, no way in haiku to configure firmware on it yet.
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<ablyss>
happy new years u slackers
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<LegendaryAmerican>
ok so I got the keyboard plugged into the mio2 to send a signal to haiku and play a song on the keyboard.
<rennj>
heh slcackers got slack?
<rennj>
the church of the subgenius
<AlienSoldier>
ablyss i guess this is that short period of the year i can communicate with the future :)
<ablyss>
lol
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<AlienSoldier>
do you have the loto number please?
<rennj>
Relax in the safety of your own delusions.
<rennj>
You'll PAY to know what you really think.
<ablyss>
that's fureal :P
<nephele>
AlienSoldier: with timezones you can always talk with people in the future
<rennj>
Eternal Salvation — Or TRIPLE your money back!
<AlienSoldier>
nephele more impressive when it imply the year digits
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<AlienSoldier>
that make sense to put santa at the north pole. He is always at a position where x-mas night is taking place. It is like quantum time entaglement.
<Not-5726>
[haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JydKC
<Not-5726>
[haiku/website] n0toose 8d4a828 - Updated copyright notice to 2022
<nephele>
Magnetic of physical?
<AlienSoldier>
must be physical, unless he live in a trailer to follow the magnetic one :)
<LegendaryAmerican>
more basic tests completed. midi in and midi out to and from the mio
<LegendaryAmerican>
it does both.
<LegendaryAmerican>
again, haiku doesnt see 6 ports, it sees four ins and four outs on the mio2. dunno if thats just firmware on the mio2.
<nephele>
if the magnetic field polarity gets inverted he would need to move pretty fast
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<LegendaryAmerican>
so yeah. iConnectivity Mio2 works with haiku.. maybe someone can get a firmware configuator working in haiku because the mio2 is quite powerful. also, maybe we can find out why it only patchbay only sees 4 in/4out
<AlienSoldier>
the time zone are not only the same at the pole. They are all the same at the line from one pole to the other passing by the core. If was living at the core it would solve the pole inversion.
<ablyss>
hey, i think the sun can also reverse polairty too.
<LegendaryAmerican>
the mio2 firmware is a midi file! woot!
* LegendaryAmerican
starts running around yelling
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<jjido>
LegendaryAmerican sounds interesting.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
yeah. Im thinking it shouldnt be much of a problem to change parameters on the mio2 from haiku.. if we can figure out how.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
its got filtering.. routing.. etc.
<LegendaryAmerican>
live control or set and forget.
<LegendaryAmerican>
its small. not just a usb midi interface. a lot more.
<LegendaryAmerican>
i think the only thing it doesnt do is remap pc to cc and visa versa. bome box does. I could be wrong about the mio 2 on this one.
<LegendaryAmerican>
but it can remap ccs to other ccs
<B2IA>
(binky) BeShare server still working on 31 December 2021, awesome! Thanks AGMS! Happy new year! Greetings from Argentina! I am using a PC with BeOS 5 (netserver) right now!
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Cool! Using BeOS and Haiku both to run BeShare over here in Canada.
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<B2IA>
(Butler) Welcome to BeShare.agmsmith.ca.
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<B2IA>
(AGMS) Happy new year binky in Brazil! And you get to start with summer, over here it's going down to -20C in a couple of nights (was -30C for a few days in January before climate change).
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<LegendaryAmerican>
we can get it if programmer wants to handle it.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
appalachia.. parts of it, is like argentina.
<LegendaryAmerican>
but its 60s 70s on the coast here.
<LegendaryAmerican>
15-20 c.
<LegendaryAmerican>
canucks used to come here.
<B2IA>
(AGMS) I like the seasonal variation. Though that makes more work: snow shovelling in winter, lawn watering in summer.
<LegendaryAmerican>
little snow here, summers get hot but not too hot. we get hurricanes occasionally.
<LegendaryAmerican>
its not florida, but its not brutal like up north either.
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Just occasional tornados here, but they're pretty small.
<LegendaryAmerican>
hehe.. water spouts, which is a tornado over water that comes to shore.. but theyre funny how they operate.
<B2IA>
(AGMS) And rarely an ice storm. Several days of near 0C rain which freezes onto everything, breaking trees and power lines. Wipes out a whole province's worth of infrastructure.
<LegendaryAmerican>
they only come across.. at certian places. Im actually high ground in the county
<LegendaryAmerican>
too many land features for tornados.
<LegendaryAmerican>
we hear warnings here and its like " oh thats down there to the south west of us"
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Anyway, it will all be different weather in a decade or two. Interesting times.
<LegendaryAmerican>
I live in a great neighborhood. almost awesome.
<ablyss>
supposed get cold here in GA soon. well. cold for some
<LegendaryAmerican>
we got concrete pads where you can land your drones.
<LegendaryAmerican>
we need a little 7-11 or little circle k or something. Id rather have a publix but we have one in the county
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Or drone deliveries from said store?
<LegendaryAmerican>
that would be sick.
<LegendaryAmerican>
well we own a pool. and a homeowners association building. still.. a fast fare or really stepped up little convience mart would rock.
<B2IA>
(AGMS) How's the walkability? Or would that store have to be a drive-thru?
<LegendaryAmerican>
Im right outside of downtown newport nc. off chatham to new bern st, to courtyard west. very nice part of town. its like an enclave.
<LegendaryAmerican>
own a condo there.
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Huh, a Google search points out Newport is 15 minutes away from the beach.
<LegendaryAmerican>
yep. but west of the bridge the land is real high.. so. safe from storms.
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Sounds like a nice small town.
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<ablyss>
does sound small, hehe
<rennj>
backwoods u.s.a.
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<rennj>
major metro or bust..its all cowpoke podunk
<rennj>
spanish moss the nice feature
<ablyss>
sandy soil smell
<rennj>
i lived in georgia, florida, pennsylvania, west virginia, illinois, colorado, california, nevada,
<rennj>
and more than a year for those place
<rennj>
i forgetting oh yeah philly/nj
<rennj>
worked in philly/nj border...i knew it was 9
<ablyss>
no alaska yet
<rennj>
got 75 acres in canada
<rennj>
live in canada also
<rennj>
my apple orchard is going fallow
<ablyss>
theres a small igloo on the point.. put me mail box there
<rennj>
75acres is my funeral stone/place in canada
<rennj>
ill have my ashes spread there, and pay land taxes for 30years into future
<rennj>
my grave is 75acres big
<rennj>
let the towneys have the land for quading and snowmobiling
<rennj>
a gift to canada
<ablyss>
what bout erm, buried treasures
<rennj>
kingsbays!
<ablyss>
do a time capsule thnigy man,
<rennj>
right above jacksonville,fl
<rennj>
florida keys was awesome
<LegendaryAmerican>
it is. my apologies, Ill be eating dinner.
<LegendaryAmerican>
supper, in fact.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
actually, newport will be the end of the new interstate. linking to the coast. so there will be a lot of building soon.
<LegendaryAmerican>
havelock is 5 minutes, and in 10 years will be a big city.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
but anyhow, I brushed over the pdf file. looks like programmers can use it.
<LegendaryAmerican>
we could get full support for mio2 and other iconnectivity devices.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
patchbay would have to be able to see all the ports. two usb.. 8 midi(4 in 4 out 4 physical ports)
<LegendaryAmerican>
as of now it sees four ins and four outs.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
but if the software is written correctly, you should be able to configure from patchbay, save, load, send, retrieve.
<LegendaryAmerican>
then double clicking could yield filtering, and all the other goodies.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
that pdf has everything you need to program software to interoperate with nearly all iconnectivity products.
<LegendaryAmerican>
I have it connected over 15 ft of cable to usb port two on the mio2. had it running also over port 1.
<B2IA>
(bronzie94) Happy 2022 Everyone
<LegendaryAmerican>
so, anyhow, configuration, powerful config you got what you need to make it reality
<LegendaryAmerican>
how do you do for 22 bronzie94[m]
<LegendaryAmerican>
just glad the iconnectivity mio2 works in haiku. thats gonna be awesome.
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<ablyss>
LegendaryAmerican, does it cover erm lightening ports, or is that another pdf
<LegendaryAmerican>
a sec.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
youd be addressing the usb through the lightning to usb camera adapter. so, these commands should fit once the physical connection is made.
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<LegendaryAmerican>
iconnectivity said only some problems with razer blade laptops, racer core ext gpu enclosures, apple mid-2018 minis and macbooks, and really they have a workaround for that.
<LegendaryAmerican>
lots of discussion also in their usb-c post at their website.
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<ablyss>
sounds good
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