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<andreasdr[m]> Arrrrrr there.
<coolcoder613_mac> Hi andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]> coolcoder613_mac: Hi there!!!
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* coolcoder613_mac is a little bored (doesn't know what to port)
<coolcoder613_mac> Any ideas?
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<bjorkintosh> lispy things, coolcoder613_mac!
<coolcoder613> What kind of lispy things?
<bjorkintosh> sbcl
<bjorkintosh> if it isn't there already.
<bjorkintosh> or tcl/tk (if it isn't there already) I think it's there already.
<coolcoder613> Both are there
<coolcoder613> tk is sdl-based though
<bjorkintosh> hmm.
<bjorkintosh> it would be nice to have it talk directly to the native interface.
<bjorkintosh> it's the nicest I've seen.
<bjorkintosh> well, I've got no ideas. so one can write gui programs in sbcl on haiku?
* coolcoder613 shrugs
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<coolcoder613> For Haiku-native GUI there is C++ and Python
<bjorkintosh> the two are beginning to look _exactly_ alike.
<coolcoder613> API, yes
<coolcoder613> But the point is to have a Haiku GUI on top of a normal Python program
<bjorkintosh> indeed.
<bjorkintosh> a very nice gui it is.
<coolcoder613> without sacrificing ones no-c++ moral code
<coolcoder613> :)
<bjorkintosh> well.
<bjorkintosh> the one time one would launch nukes to save the planet you know?
<coolcoder613> Because of a buffer overflow
<bjorkintosh> it can be mitigated.
<coolcoder613> But the nukes have already been launched...
<coolcoder613> Anyway, port ideas?
<bjorkintosh> oberon?
<coolcoder613> Isn't that an OS?
<bjorkintosh> and a programming language.
<coolcoder613> Sucessor to pascal?
<bjorkintosh> no.
<bjorkintosh> Modula-2
<coolcoder613> Indirectly
<bjorkintosh> yes. Wirth abandoned Pascal decades ago.
<bjorkintosh> because he had created numerous successors.
<augiedoggie> coolcoder613: was that dillo icon converted from an svg? if you created an icon from scratch for a port then you should include the .iom file in the repo
<coolcoder613> I made it from the earth icon
<augiedoggie> if it's a custom icon then the iom file should be included, otherwise at least a note in the commit message about where the icon came from
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<coolcoder613_32> Where should i put the iom file? in haikuports?
<augiedoggie> yeah, we have several of them scattered in the repos
<augiedoggie> usually in the additional-files directory
<coolcoder613_32> in additional-files?
<coolcoder613_32> Ok, pushed to my fork
<coolcoder613_32> git pull
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<augiedoggie> ok, also you need a revision bump in the recipe to force a rebuild
<coolcoder613_32> pushed
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cfc5e15cb13d...d5fc3512796f
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] coolcoder613eb d5fc351 - Add Dillo icon (#9832)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d5fc3512796f...b4a13de32b38
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays b4a13de - blender: bump to 3.3.12 (#9735)
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<coolcoder613_32> Is there any support for `hey` scripting Vision?
<augiedoggie> afaik just the built-in scripting support in the windows/views/etc...
<coolcoder613_32> So no sending messages etc
<augiedoggie> you can send messages if you know the destination
<coolcoder613> not BMessages, IRC messages
<augiedoggie> you'd have to dig through the source code to see if it's possible to construct a bmessage for it
<augiedoggie> i.e. see what message the input box sends when you hit enter
<augiedoggie> it's probably not part of the message, but i haven't looked
<coolcoder613> As in, send a privmsg with long-running command results...
<augiedoggie> yeah, it'd be a pain in the butt i think
<augiedoggie> not sure if it's possible or not without digging through the vision source code
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Begasus> coolcoder613[m], thanks for the icon! :)
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<coolcoder613_mac> Hello Begasus
<coolcoder613_mac> I am having my raspi pretend to be a USB, and am booting from it.
<coolcoder613_mac> Redox OS is working fine on my thinkpad
<coolcoder613_mac> Serenity OS... not so much
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<TomSwift> hello
<TomSwift> i was a linux user but i love haiku now
<TomSwift> haiku is funny than linux
<coolcoder613_mac> :)
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<tmtfx_1> to coolcoder613: "Redox OS is working fine... Serenity OS..." Remembers me the times I switched between Windows98, BeOS and QNX.. :D
<Begasus> then there was also SkyOS, Elive ... :)
<coolcoder613_mac> ToaruOS
<Begasus> doesn't ring a bell there :)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b4a13de32b38...7184c1ad93bb
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 7184c1a - scons, update and cleanup (#9830)
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<Begasus> seems still quit some packages rely on icu66_devel ...
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<tmtfx_1> Elive I thought was a linux distro using "e" as window manager
<Begasus> yeah, doesn't really fit into the list :)
<Begasus> But was one pretty well running with Enlightenment
<Begasus> SkyOS was pretty neat, too bad it died too soon ...
<tmtfx_1> When I used it, it was the time I used KDE3 as my DE and I scripted for it a tool to show informations on my Logitech g15 keyboard
<Begasus> Colldected some of my screenshots from SkyOS here: :) https://ibb.co/album/tw5tXj
<tmtfx_1> Yes, it's true though I've never used it :/
<Begasus> was one of the beta testers with a key back then
<tmtfx_1> 8-)
<Begasus> still remember the strugle to get RH5.1 booting in graphical mode :P
<Begasus> came accross the box from back then the other day, still in pretty good shape :D
<tmtfx_1> oh boy... the chip, the DAC, memory, monitor frequencies *_*
<Begasus> right, recompiling the kernel with the changes ... :O
<tmtfx_1> XD
<tmtfx_1> waiting is part of the joy
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<Begasus> eventualy switched to SuSE6.1 :)
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<tmtfx_1> anyway, is it normal that in Haiku if you have multiple terminals opened and other windows, you cannot switch throug them with ctrl and the key above tab?
<tmtfx_1> suse the distro of choice when I bought my linux multi distro packed cd's in 1998 , I put it on my i386 and my Celeron 400 later :D
<tmtfx_1> *my distro choice
<Begasus> Celeron 350 (I think that was the one you could overclock?)
<Begasus> iirc I had it running at 450 :)
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<tmtfx_1> Not pretty sure but I remember of something about that on celeron 300MHz series
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<Begasus> yeah, that one, there was some mistake on the manufacturing iirc so that people could run it at 450MHz
<tmtfx_1> or maybe all the others had the mistake of not letting people to overclock that way XD
<Begasus> heh
<coolcoder613_mac> TouaruOS is quite a nice system, iso is 6MB, boots very fast..
<Begasus> that was the point I guess :) burned one of those CPU's that way once :P
<tmtfx_1> lol
<tmtfx_1> Overclocking... It was tempting... I know
<Begasus> And then came BeOS, no need for all that, it just worked :D
<phschafft> it's fun. I have working machines from 80286 and upwards. at least one per generation that just works. from all the persons that did overclocking I never hear about their old machines being still alive. ;)
<Begasus> still have that big tower next to me, should really start to dismantle it
* Begasus wonders what's still on those drives
<phschafft> if you wait long enough the bits might become qbits. being in some super position of ones and zeros...
<Begasus> haven't been touched for about 15years I think ...
<tmtfx_1> <phschafft> lol
<phschafft> :)
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<armin> If you wait 8x as long the qbits become qbyte.
<coolcoder613_mac> When do they become QTeraBytes?
<armin> coolcoder613_mac: Nobody ever survived waiting that long, so we don't know, yet.
<phschafft> that's not fully true. there is that cat... but it's complicated.
<phschafft> it depends a bit on if you look at it.
<coolcoder613_mac> Anyway, if each bit on the hard drive becomes a qubit, doesnt 8 qubits make a qubyte
<coolcoder613_mac> So why 8x?
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7184c1ad93bb...9cd81a9f2a93
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 9cd81a9 - zsxd, bump version (#9833)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9cd81a9f2a93...01568c36955a
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 01568c3 - zsdx, bump version (#9834)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/01568c36955a...bc269d0caa84
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus bc269d0 - zsxd, fix checksum (#9835)
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<BrunoSpr> hi all
<Begasus> Hi BrunoSpr
<BrunoSpr> Hi Begasus
<BrunoSpr> I have no Bookmark bar in WebPositive! https://0x0.st/H3ru.png
<BrunoSpr> maybe I misspelled it?
<BrunoSpr> I tried to delete the settings folder and renamed the Bookmarkbar folder but it will not show up in Web+
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<BrunoSpr> rebooted back again
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<Begasus> let me check, it's crashing atm sometimes
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<Begasus> looks ok here
<BrunoSpr> I have then some misspelling or some kind of mess here
<Begasus> "/boot/home/config/settings/WebPositive/Bookmarks/Bookmark bar" here
<_-Caleb-_> Hi all, i have a "problem" i cant connect from my 64 bits Haiku to my 32 bits haiku using ssh
<Begasus> not familiar there _-Caleb-_
<BrunoSpr> Solarus does not play the games?! https://0x0.st/H3r_.png
<Begasus> yeah, got that same thing here BrunoSpr, not sure why (it used to work)
<BrunoSpr> Begasus ok: will try here!
<Begasus> but you can launch them from Terminal
<BrunoSpr> yes it was working
<BrunoSpr> yes I know, but I thought it was working with the launcher before
<BrunoSpr> just testing it
<Begasus> np, tested it here too :)
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<_-Caleb-_> It's strange Begasus because i can connect under telnet/ftp but doesn't under ssh/sftp idk why xD
<_-Caleb-_> can connect in linux
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/f59b974c1606...132be87d4ca7
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 132be87 - Initiate ideas list for GSoC 2024
<Begasus> wouldn't know how to _-Caleb-_, otherwise I would check it here :)
<BrunoSpr> brb
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<Begasus> PulkoMandy, wanted to have a look at building haikuwebkit, but I'm afraid my system will blow up on me :)
<Begasus> atm it's pretty fine, earlier it would crash when switching tabs
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bc269d0caa84...57d13528c677
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 57d1352 - zlib, bump version (#9836)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/57d13528c677...161e014acf3f
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 161e014 - zimg, bump version (#9837)
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<Sark> Wow, I'm pretty surprised - it's been about a year since I used Haiku, and back then, Epiphany (Web) was pretty good, and WebPositive was barely funtional.
<Sark> Now it's the other way around.
<Sark> haha
<Sark> I used to only be able to use Discord in Epiphany, now it won't work there at all. But it does (mostly) work in WebPositive, where it didn't work well at all before.
<Sark> Twitter also does not work in Epiphany, but it does in WebPositive.
<Begasus> +1 for the main porters then! :)
<Sark> Yeah. Although don't use the port of Telegram.
<Sark> My account got banned in 30 seconds after connecting it.
<Sark> Which really, really sucks because now I've lost the ability to communicate with some very important people in my life.
<bjorkintosh> Sark, can't you appeal it?
<Sark> Tried. My emails have been ignored. I didn't even get a canned automated response.
<bjorkintosh> tweet at them then: https://twitter.com/telegram
<bjorkintosh> tell them they blocked a client you were testing.
<bjorkintosh> if it's that important.
<Sark> Already did.
<Sark> Just wanted to warn here as well.
<bjorkintosh> still no response? what dicks!
<_-Caleb-_> Sark im using kotatogram in both pcs without problems :-)
<_-Caleb-_> 32 & 64 bits
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<Sark> To be fair, I only blasted them on Twitter an hour ago, I sent emails a couple days ago, then yesterday, then after over 36 hours with no response I went to Twitter this morning.
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<bjorkintosh> ah.
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/161e014acf3f...9140c6b199f6
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 9140c6b - zeromq, bump version (#9838)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9140c6b199f6...1e1f2cc7ae58
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 1e1f2cc - minizip, bump version (#9839)
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<R2AIV> Hi all! How can i take screenshot and save it to png or jpg in Haiku?
<augiedoggie> press the 'print screen' key
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<Sark> There's also FlamsShot which gives you more functionality, like being able to select only a specific area or window. But Print Screen gives you a regular screenshot of the entire screen - there just isn't an easy way to crop it.
<Sark> *FlameShot
<Begasus> You can do that in ShowImage also :) (select and drag to a new target (eg Desktop or the like))
<Sark> Oh! I did *not* know you could do that. That's pretty neat.
<Sark> I just thought ShowImage did not have any functionality to crop images.
<Sark> You could make a selection but there's no menu item for cropping or saving the selection. I didn't realize you could drag it. hehe
<Begasus> It was that since BeOS :)
<Begasus> that/there*
<Sark> Heh. I did not know that. I just knew that if I tried to do save as it just never wrote any file at all. heh.
<Begasus> Use it all the time here, so far with no issues
<R2AIV> augiedoggie, thanx ) Today i'm stupid )
<R2AIV> Huh i'm tried FlameShot now. It most powerfull! Lot of thanx! )
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<HaikuUser> anybody home?
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<R2AIV> I'm home )
<Begasus> Only for a short while, then I'm off :)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57440] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f66a7eb59eb9+%5Ed8f0eb354e07
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f66a7eb59eb9 - Tracker: Fix Default button in settings for thumbs default on
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a45709f6300a - Revert "ACPICA fixes for gcc2.95.3"
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 6 commits to master [hrev57441] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9fb1ce2781de+%5Ef66a7eb59eb9
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 153bb8ef670f - Revert "ACPICA removed our cast we need for gcc 2.95.3"
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f2acc47f4363 - acpi: update AcpiOsAcquireGlobalLock and AcpiOsReleaseGlobalLock
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ff45b65f4dcc - acpi: use the KernelStaticLibrary rule
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7be86b18a362 - libgraphicscommon.a: use the KernelStaticLibrary rule
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9fb1ce2781de - radeon: use the KernelStaticLibrary rule
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1e1f2cc7ae58...b65b798ad665
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly b65b798 - filezilla: update to 3.66.1 (#9841)
<Begasus> closing down for today, cu peeps!
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<coolcoder613_32> Good morning all
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