<coolcoder613_32>
I was looking for a simple word processor for Haiku
<coolcoder613_32>
more friendly then StyledEdit
<coolcoder613_32>
And QT is the next-best thing for native Haiku looking GUIs
<zard>
That reminds me, I need to try Genio
<zard>
Well, installed it at least. Now I just need to remember to run it next time I start programming
<zard>
Of course, I'm going to forget ;)
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<coolcoder613_32>
Is there a way to stop GTK from sticking out like a sore thumb?
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<coolcoder613_32>
I can't stand the look of abiword on Haiku
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<zard>
I don't know. Maybe if you did a bit of programming :^)
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<coolcoder613_32>
How does the Haiku QT port work?
<Al2O3>
apparently well, the app mentioned worked out of box.
<coolcoder613_32>
I know GTK is based on xlibe
<coolcoder613_32>
No, i don't mean how well does it work, i mean how was it ported
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<Al2O3>
make/build cycle at a time.
<Al2O3>
glad it works.
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<Halian>
Hey
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<coolcoder613_mac>
Hi Halian
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
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<Begasus>
k, got a nice present for xmas, now I would like to use it in Haiku too :) external hdmi screen connected to the laptop
<Begasus>
so far I don't see anything in preferences :/
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<Begasus_64>
Looks nice when using it as the second screen in windows :)
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<Begasus_64>
nice work on BGator2 TmTFx! Should check it out here :)
<Begasus>
bethon still on python2.7 I see :)
<coolcoder613_mac>
Hi Begasus
<Begasus>
Hi coolcoder613_mac
<Begasus>
whoops, build error on BGator
<Begasus_64>
BRoster.cpp:268:32: error: cast from 'void*' to 'team_id' {aka 'int'} loses precision [-fpermissive]
<tmtfx_>
Thank you
<Begasus_64>
64bit R1B4
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<tmtfx_>
I download R1B4 64bit now, and I'll check, unfortunately I don't have much time today, gotta go reaching my family's party :)
<Begasus_64>
np, heading out to the grandchildren in the afternoon too here
<Begasus_64>
Vision could use some color theming :)
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<andreasdr[m]>
Hi there.
<Begasus>
Hello andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi Begasus
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<Begasus>
should find a way to speedup vmware for building things ...
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<AlienSoldier>
hohoho, VLC icon got a little Santa hat :)
<AlienSoldier>
i guess this fit as an "easter" egg
<phschafft>
:)
<phschafft>
it's one of those easter eggs you're looking forward every year.
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<cocobean>
coolcoder613_32: The other frameworks provide convenience and complexity (i.e.a double-edged sword). Both GTK, KDE, and Qt are nice - but there is more work to debug them, implement them, and stay on top of their changes.
<cocobean>
(going back to my eggnog and feet warming by the fireplace) - Merry Xmas!
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<Al2O3>
merry xmas
<Al2O3>
well, yes, layers on layers of abstraction or 'convenience' to effectively provide for the most part cross platform development.
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<Al2O3>
more appealing to folks to have more folks use their software, and also dump OS dependency so when an OS dies (for instance BeOS) it isn't such a big deal to keep developing for those other libs/environments and not rewrite it all again.
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<Al2O3>
however, there is something very appealing to most developers to be intimate and very knowledgeable about a single enviro, that is kinda tied to a machine/os, or otherwise cluster of users
<phschafft>
I think there a number of diffrent classes of people who are most often just called 'developers' completly ignoring that many of them are totally different in what they do.
<phschafft>
I must say that specifically in professional life it is way easier to sell someone who can barely code than someone with an actual understanding of what is going on.
<phschafft>
because for most people (also in the industry) they are all just 'developers'. as people use the same box for them they have a hard time figuring out why there is a difference in what they do.
<phschafft>
which, to get back to your point(s), also means that there must be one uniform way to do something because as nobody understands the difference between a developer for platform A and B.
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<phschafft>
I often have seen people get angry at me for having knowlage of what happens one layer deeper than what they think is rock bottom (which for most is the framework they use; which must have come down from the heaven in some magical event ;).
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<cocobean>
phschafft: programmer vs. developer vs. engineer (or the scientist that is also a programmer - for my FORTRAN zealots)
<phschafft>
I generally try to at least explain the difference between a coder, a programmer, and a developer.
<phschafft>
I avoid engineer and architect as they have legal implications here in Germany.
<cocobean>
:)
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<amitbora>
What's the address of haiku xmpp?
<amitbora>
#haiku%irc.oftc.net@irc.jabberfr.org is showing invalid
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<Al2O3>
phschafft: so true on the software engineer and architect having nearly no legal merit here in the US other than at times pay grade.
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<Al2O3>
been an SE for 40 years, Arch for 30, and retired for a few, and the funny thing I always thought was often, but not always, the latter two 'classifications' in software were just excuses for paying better, expecting less, and ultimately retiring early.
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<phschafft>
hm.
<coolcoder613_32>
Good morning
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<Al2O3>
good day sunshine (snowing here)
<Al2O3>
with breaks in the snow to have some sun and fun.
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<Al2O3>
wild weather, love it.
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<coolcoder613_32>
It's summer here, although cloudy today
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* coolcoder613_32
hasn't seen any snow in his life
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<Al2O3>
snow is fun, and over rated.
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<PulkoMandy>
amitbora: that's the right address, I'm not sure why it would be invalid
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