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<mmu_man> hmm got this issue with expat, not sure how to fix: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/9814
<mmu_man> I can add a …__haiku.cmake but I'd need to detect if subarch and use headers/ or headers/xx
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<mmu_man> oh ok CMAKE_HAIKU_SECONDARY_ARCH_SUBDIR
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<mmu_man> stupid thing doesn't want to install the new cmake file
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57431] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6f451a737b5d+%5E41fcdb3c1c37
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6f451a737b5d - Tracker: Minor code simplifications
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a5fac32b632b...654cc24d09dd
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] mmuman 654cc24 - expat: Fix CMake file
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<bostonbrooks> Hi I'm Boston. Last Saturday I was working on ticket 4089, custom window borders/tabs
<bostonbrooks> I could not find what code to modify to change the colour of the tabs.
<bostonbrooks> Will mich around today and try to find the relevant section of code
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<Skipp_OSX> src/servers/app/decorator/DefaultDecorator.cpp:97
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<bostonbrooks> thanks
<Skipp_OSX> good luck!
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<bostonbrooks> So far i've added a boolean value to prevent tab colors from changing when the default colors change.
<bostonbrooks> sorry, I didnt finish editing my comment
<bostonbrooks> So far, I've added a boolean value that when set prevents the tab colors from changing when the default colors are changed.
<Skipp_OSX> k try red
* Skipp_OSX B_WINDOW_BORDER_COLOR
<Skipp_OSX> figure out which gets set from Appearance, somewhere, and that's the color you want to change, the rest should adjust themselves.
<Skipp_OSX> oh and B_WINDOW_TAB_COLOR too
<Skipp_OSX> we can already change the window color just need to hook an override into that
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57432] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a07cdb3feb5c+%5E6f451a737b5d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a07cdb3feb5c - Update translations from Pootle
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/654cc24d09dd...b4c6d995f5b8
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b4c6d99 - futuresql, new recipe (#9815)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b4c6d995f5b8...7f2acffb49a0
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 7f2acff - lager, new recipe (#9816)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7f2acffb49a0...2b5286621ae4
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 2b52866 - librttopo: new recipe
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2b5286621ae4...3477eefab6de
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3477eef - zug, new recipe (#9817)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3477eefab6de...01c45f3589c8
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 01c45f3 - immer, new recipe (#9818)
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<bobfreedman> hola
<Begasus> Hello bobfreedman
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/01c45f3589c8...80289eed492a
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 80289ee - lager, force build for missing immer (#9819)
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<coolcoder613_32> Good evening
<coolcoder613_32> Hello Begasus
<Begasus> G'morning coolcoder613_32
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<coolcoder613_32> My email suddenly stopped working?
<coolcoder613_32> It was connecting via POP3 to Outlook...
<coolcoder613_32> And now it is saying...
* coolcoder613_32 presses check for mail now
<coolcoder613_32> coolcoder613@outlook.com Error while connecting to server outlook.office365.com:995: Operation would block
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<Monni> "Operation would block" just means that the operation takes longer than expected, but not enough to cause timeout... It's pretty normal state when using non-blocking I/O...
<coolcoder613_mac> Hmm... it also fails with that when i try to ssh into my mac...
<coolcoder613_mac> But the email wasn't working, not just taking longer than usual
<coolcoder613_mac> same with ssh
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<bobfreedman> hello
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<coolcoder613_mac> Hello bobfreedman
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<Monni> coolcoder613_mac: It's not-fatal error, but some applications might treat it incorrectly as fatal error... Any operation that returns that error should be retried a little later...
<coolcoder613_mac> appaently mail_daemon does not handle that correctly
<coolcoder613_mac> apparently
<Monni> I haven't worked on mail_daemon ;) Last time I worked on Bluetooth driver, but that was years ago...
<bobfreedman> hello coolcoder613
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<bobfreedman> coolcoder613_mac is the same people of coolcoder613?
<coolcoder613_mac> Yes
<coolcoder613_mac> This is my mac i'm talking from now...
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<Begasus> Monni?
<Begasus> The Monni? ;)
<Monni> Begasus: The one and only Monni...
<Begasus> Hi there! My Enlish tutor :D
<Begasus> How's it going?
<Begasus> English* (see I'm already getting nervous) :D
<Monni> Begasus: Ok, I guess... Pondering if I should port some of my work projects to Haiku... Already ported to FreeBSD and OpenBSD...
<Begasus> What's stopping you Monni? Plenty of tools around now compared to the BeOS days
<Monni> Begasus: I'm not really familiar in how thread scheduler works in Haiku.... Never really looked how different it is from Linux or FreeBSD...
<Begasus> That's one for the masters :)
<Begasus> Monni, only one way to find out I guess? :)
<Monni> Begasus: I guess... I've used Python and JavaScript mostly lately, so not much time for working on C++ code...
<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
<Begasus> We could use someone to bring us javaFX :)
<Begasus> Hi there andreasdr[m]
<Begasus> Monni, for both there are pretty recent version for NetBeans and PyCharm available for 64bit ;)
<Monni> Begasus: I'm old school... I still use pico and nano ;)
<Begasus> No excuse either there :P
<Begasus> not sure about pico ...
<Monni> Begasus: I just installed BeShare yesterday... Took a while as the networking is really flaky in Haiku...
<Begasus> Pretty good here (external USB dongle)
<Monni> Begasus: I use integrated chipset.... Has Bluetooth, Ethernet and WiFi...
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/80289eed492a...f097e1b3ebbc
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb f097e1b - WorkspaceNumber: new recipe for v0.2
<Begasus> No Ethernet on this laptop, internal WiFi isn't supported, so this works fine for me :)
<andreasdr[m]> Hi Begasus, Hi Monni
<Monni> Begasus: I was surprised all the hardware I had on this PC just worked without any issues other than networking dropping every few seconds...
<Begasus> Monni, did you try to disable/enable it? Sometimes works on making it more stable here ...
<Monni> Begasus: Nah... I just retried every transfer until it finished ;)
<Monni> With 600 Mbit/s connection, it didn't take many retries until it did finish...
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<Begasus> lol
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<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> re
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<M3dEyes[m]> patches adopted to qtwebengine 5.15.11 and it's works fine
<Begasus> nice M3dEyes[m]!
<Begasus> so far no crashes here :)
<BrunoSpr> hi all
<BrunoSpr> any idea, Falkon runns very slow on my system Haiku nightly 64bit settings deleted still very slow?!
<Begasus> runs smooth here, no issues
<BrunoSpr> hmm what coul it be then?
<BrunoSpr> web+ is fast also Epiphany
<BrunoSpr> at least ther is teh round arrow showing on the haiku-os website again
<M3dEyes[m]> BrunoSpr: CPU, RAM?
<BrunoSpr> CPU Intelo i5 2500K 3.31 GHz Ram: 8031 MiB
<Begasus> M3dEyes[m], my score is 472 here (with Falkon)
<Begasus> but got 9 tabs open also :)
<BrunoSpr> If I close the Add Blocker it is a bit faster
<BrunoSpr> Maybe something with my Network wrong, will try
<BrunoSpr> try reboot then
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<Begasus> afk
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<M3dEyes[m]> <Begasus> "3dEyes, my score is 472 here (..." <- Open html5test.com via https protocol
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<Begasus> M3dEyes[m] 522 now :)
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<BrunoSpr> Something is slowing down my whole system when using Falkon, what could it be
<BrunoSpr> I try to delete the cache
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<BrunoSpr> It should be like Gnome Epiphany: https://0x0.st/HxOB.png instead Falkon is showing low interest in going online fast! The system is unresponsive with Falkon! https://0x0.st/HxOS.png
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f097e1b3ebbc...319fce1e4fb5
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly 319fce1 - llvm17: update to 17.0.6 (#9820)
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<cocobean> IHTML5 score : 522)
<cocobean> We can patch up to QtWebEngine v5.15.16: https://github.com/qt/qtwebengine/archive/refs/tags/v5.15.16-lts.tar.gz
<cocobean> The HTML5 score is as good as Safari 17.2.
<cocobean> The HTML5 score for MS Edge v119 is: 528
<cocobean> So now, Haiku's web browser experience is at a decent home user level for daily driving use..
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<BrunoSpr> <BrunoSpr> It should be like Gnome Epiphany: https://0x0.st/HxOB.png instead Falkon is showing low interest in going online fast! The system is unresponsive with Falkon! https://0x0.st/HxOS.png
<Begasus> M3dEyes[m], are you working on KF6? (saw something passing by for qtwebengine (qt6), so I suppose you are :)
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<win8linux[m]> <cocobean> "So now, Haiku's web browser..." <- Including YouTube?
<Begasus> win8linux[m], youtube is playing nice now
<win8linux[m]> Nice, might be time to switch to the Haiku install soon.
<win8linux[m]> * install soon again.
<Begasus> only one I'm having issues so far is LinkdIn
<Begasus> but that runs OK in Web+ :)
<Begasus> I'm good, only thing I need to switch for is some online banking (could be possible, haven't tried) :D
<Skipp_OSX> using horizontal mini-mode Deskbar and About System Replicant :)
<Begasus> default Deskbar, and replicant up too :)
<Skipp_OSX> I guess the replicant isn't getting updated correctly after my latest changes though as it looks like there is a combination of the two which looks ok but I wonder if you create a new instance of the about system replicant if it will remove the extra lines.
<Skipp_OSX> Should be 1 title line, 1 text line for each section, not 2 text lines for the first 3 anymore
<Begasus> would be nice if the border could disapear :)
<Skipp_OSX> you know what I could do is hide the border when you hide replicants
<Begasus> I'm not seeing any lines in there?
<Skipp_OSX> I'm talking about in Bruno's screenshots above
<Begasus> ah :)
<Skipp_OSX> you don't like the border? I needed it for testing to see if the strings were too long to fit in the box.
<Skipp_OSX> thought it looked ok and kept it.
<Begasus> makes sense
<Begasus> just my 2 cents :)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/36de0ae775c7...d34e28461e04
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/infrastructure] Forza-tng d34e284 - Updated mirror tnonline.net ipv4 (#105)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/d34e28461e04...4d0ad89bc738
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 ae3885c - buildmaster: bump for some various past fixes
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 4d0ad89 - rsync: bump for my own mirroring
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57433] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6a0798da0c7d+%5Ea07cdb3feb5c
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6a0798da0c7d - Tracker: Show "-" for packagefs volume size
<BrunoSpr> hi all
<Begasus> closing down
<Begasus> cu peeps!
<BrunoSpr> see u
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<BrunoSpr> hi all, any idea why on Haiku I have 8GB Ram and on Windows I have 20GB? How comes? I have two 8Gb Ram and 2 older 2GB Ram modules on Bord!
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<Lunovus> The tool eating .recipes is HaikuPorter, right?
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<augiedoggie> yes
<Lunovus> Thx
<Anarchos> Lunovus it can produces them too
<Anarchos> sorry, not the recipe but the patchset.
<Lunovus> I thought it could produce them too
<Lunovus> Sorry, just sweeping over the docs
<Anarchos> no recipes can't be automatically produced, cause they contain information you decide to put in your package : the source urI/version, the description....
<Lunovus> Yeah, was just asking to build a recipe
<Lunovus> In, err, building something FROM a recipe, not cooking my own..
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<Anarchos> Lunovus just look for a simple recipe and adapt it
<Lunovus> Nah, really, I just want to build something from an existing port
<Lunovus> Then debug it *gg*
<Lunovus> SCNR
<Lunovus> OK, hard questions:
<Lunovus> How to debug problems with multihreading in the kernel on Haiku?
<Lunovus> Let's say I see this assertion failed "RTThreadPreemptIsEnabled(NIL_RTTHREAD)" on kernel level
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<Lunovus> Works a LOT of times, seems to fail sometimes
<Lunovus> The bigger the number of cores used in a VM, the worse it gets..
<Lunovus> Not my code
<Lunovus> It's from the VirtualBox guest additions file system
<Lunovus> It kernel panics on this assertion. Makes me think one thread was NOT preemptive..
<Lunovus> What could cause this?
<Lunovus> Dang, another (different) crash. I'm using the wrong virtual machine I guess
<Lunovus> Anybody know if VirtualBox and VMWare play together fine? On a Win11 host?
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<Anarchos> no idea Lunovus
<Lunovus> Phew, maybe I'll just try
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<Lunovus> My Win11 is already borken enough, how much worse can it get?
<Lunovus> But I got Haiku running on bare metal, so there is no need to make it work (good) on a VM
<Lunovus> Apart from playing sounds..
<Lunovus> Can VMware read *.vdis?
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<Lunovus> Narf, Haiku R1Beta4 won't boot on my VMware WS 17 player
<Lunovus> OK, scratch that, had 4MiB RAM on a DOS machine
<Anarchos> Lunovus R1Beta4 is a bit old, nightly images are stable enough to let you run a more decent and recent version of Haiku
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<Lunovus> Yeah, waiting for Christmas ;-)
<Lunovus> Got it up and running in VWware Player 17 now
<Lunovus> And on bare metal too
<Lunovus> (Different install)
<Lunovus> Would have hoped to get it running fine in VirtualBox
<Lunovus> But at least VirtualBox and VMware seem to play along nicely along one Win11 host..
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<Lunovus_> *ping*
<Lunovus_> Sorry..
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<coolcoder613_32> Good morning
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<Al2O3> good morning
<coolcoder613_32> Hello Al2O3
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<coolcoder613_32> Hi zard
<zard> Hello coolcoder613_32 :)
<coolcoder613_32> Have a look at this: https://github.com/magic-wormhole/magic-wormhole
<zard> Interesting project
<zard> Here's one that I looked at today: https://zellij.dev/
<coolcoder613_32> I used magic-wormhole.rs to get a file from a github codespace...
<coolcoder613_32> I had built OneFileLinux
<zard> Wow!
<zard> I use Ventoy on my USB stick to easily boot whatever Linux iso I donwload from online
<zard> Pretty handy sometimes :)