<AlienSoldier>
perhaps it's not stable yet, i don't know
<applecuckoo>
You'd have to ask 3DEyes about that.
<applecuckoo>
They built that from the source code.
<AlienSoldier>
God: when Falkon will be available for 32bit?
<AlienSoldier>
:)
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<applecuckoo>
Your best way forward would be to create a forum account and @ him on that thread. I don't see any PRs for his build on HaikuPorts, and there isn't a 32-bit version on his LOTE repo (https://haikuware.ru/).
<AlienSoldier>
i ma sure he will make a package eventually
<AlienSoldier>
*am
<coolcoder613_32>
It probably just needs enabling 32-bit in the recipe
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<M3dEyes[m]>
<coolcoder613_32> "It probably just needs enabling..." <- I have already added support for the 32 bit version in qtwebengine_bin. But at the moment both buildmasters are offline and no packages are built from haikuports.
<coolcoder613_mac>
I know that, i was talking about Falkon
<waddlesplash>
M3dEyes[m]: I think the buildmasters were rebooted. next push to haikuports should kick off a build, and it should pick up all the things missed
<M3dEyes[m]>
<coolcoder613_mac> "I know that, i was talking about..." <- For Falkon and Dooble, all you need to do is enable the build for the secondary x86 architecture in recipe.
<coolcoder613_mac>
Exactly, that's what i said.
<coolcoder613_mac>
> It probably just needs enabling 32-bit in the recipe
<botifico-ecd96135>
[haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie 189ca05 - zsh: disable more completions that aren't Haiku compatible yet
<augiedoggie>
we'll see if the builder starts up
<waddlesplash>
it did
<augiedoggie>
yeah
<erysdren>
hi coolcoder613_mac
<coolcoder613_mac>
I managed to rig up something involving a raspi in USB mass storage gadget mode with an image called image.img, and a NFS share of the mounted image.img...
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<M3dEyes[m]>
There was a funny experience of building qtwebengine for 32 bit version. It turned out to be not such a big problem to patch the sources and build, but the problems started during linking. Linking takes a very long time, about 40 minutes (the same as for x86_64), but in the end the linker was not enough RAM. I managed to do it only with the help of lld from llvm package, which was patched beforehand - specific build targets (elf_i386_haiku)
<M3dEyes[m]>
were added. Unlike ld, lld linked a library of 172 megabytes in 3.5 seconds.
<waddlesplash>
...
<waddlesplash>
well, we should maybe just switch to using lld for such large things anyway then :p
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<coolcoder613_mac>
Would it be possible to have UPX for Haiku?
<coolcoder613_mac>
I can compile it, but it can't compress haiku binaries
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<andreasdr[m]>
Cool.
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi there.
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<coolcoder613_mac>
Hi andreasdr[m]
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<andreasdr[m]>
coolcoder613_mac: Hi there!!!
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<coolcoder613_mac>
My problem is that I can only see the screen in fail-safe video mode, and in fail-safe video mode i can't set the default refresh rate
<Begasus>
should be a way to bypass that, but can't remember :)
<botifico-ecd96135>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 626054a - Dooble: bump for rebuild
<Begas_VM>
k, why did this fail on the buildmaster? grabbing texstudio_x86-4.7.1-2-x86_gcc2.hpkg and moving it to /boot/home/haikuports/packages/texstudio_x86-4.7.1-2-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<botifico-ecd96135>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d54341b - texstudio, revbump for 32bit, adjust patchset for GNUInstallDirs (#9887)
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<Begasus>
repology seems to be down :/
<Begasus>
Hi BrunoSpr
<Begasus>
again ... :/ /boot/system/develop/tools/x86/bin/../lib/gcc/i586-pc-haiku/13.2.0/../../../../i586-pc-haiku/bin/ld: cannot find -lpoppler-qt6: No such file or directory
<BrunoSpr>
hi all
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<Begasus>
looks like it's taking 2 different versions for poppler on buildmaster (32bit) :/
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<zeldakatze[m]>
Hello
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<zeldakatze[m]>
How advantageous is it to seperate games with a lot of data into seperate game packages?
<BrunoSpr>
I always wonder why ther is not a easy to type reboot in Haiku Terminal: https://0x0.st/H3Rj.png
<BrunoSpr>
I always try: reboot and restart but it does not work in Haiku
<BrunoSpr>
Maybe it is only me!?
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<Begasus>
hi zeldakatze[m], it's been done before
<Begasus>
any progress on widelands?
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<Begasus>
BrunoSpr, no "reboot" binary in Haiku
<Begasus>
there is "shutdown"
<BrunoSpr>
yes that one I always forget!
<BrunoSpr>
it is shutdown -r
<Begasus>
or you could force the gui with Ctrl-Alt-Del
<BrunoSpr>
yes I know
<Begasus>
ah :)
<BrunoSpr>
but it is always the same... restart or reboot sounds better at least for me#
<zeldakatze[m]>
<Begasus> "any progress on widelands?" <- I'm currently compiling it again. It for some reason fails to compile on one computer, but it's also the one computer that shows the invalid opcode stuff on Nheko and libreOffice
<zeldakatze[m]>
<Begasus> "hi zeldakatze, it's been done..." <- I'm wondering if it would make sense on widelands, since it has quite a lot of data
<Begasus>
I'm guessing it requires the data?
<Begasus>
probably useless without them
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<Begasus>
zeldakatze[m], still on ICU66? ;)
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<Begasus>
zeldakatze[m], as the data is included in SOURCE_URI I wouldn't bother seperating it
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<zeldakatze[m]>
<Begasus> "zeldakatze, still on ICU66? ;)" <- I'll bump that on the recipe of widelands, thank you, I missed that
<Begasus>
well, build went well (no changes here), but indeed the cursor isn't that plesant
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<Begasus>
forget the ICU switch for now ... sdl2-ttf -> harfbuzz (which requires icu66_devel)
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<KitsunePrefecture>
I've just restored my IRC connection from config settings backup
<KitsunePrefecture>
and seems it works
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<KitsunePrefecture>
as I used it infrequently - may I ask ?.. Would I get some massege from Vision if someone writes me if I right that moment away from chat ?
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<KitsunePrefecture>
or It is just old fashined and I must check it regularly ?.. :)
<augiedoggie>
i thought Vision could do notifications but it's been a long time since i've used it
<KitsunePrefecture>
okidoki
<Begasus>
KitsunePrefecture, it should :)
<KitsunePrefecture>
thanks
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<Begasus>
afk
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<KitsunePrefecture>
Anyway, the Heinlein quote is really a gem in the end of "About Vision" after the credits
<OscarL>
kallisti5[m]: Mmm, I keep getting "blocked by scanblock" on Trac :-(. First time accessing it today... got the HTML without CSS, and got totally blocked on refresh :-(
<KitsunePrefecture>
I liked his boks I could read (in Hungarian translation .. ( end of OT) , thanks for all
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<OscarL>
coolcoder613[m]: you shouldn't need to select fail-safe graphics everytime. Just force it by creating a "/boot/home/config/settings/kernel/drivers/vesa" file with, for example: "mode 800 600 32" ("mode [width] [height] [color depth]")
<OscarL>
coolcoder613[m]: won't help with the refresh-rate issue, but... beats having to select it every time on boot :-)
<PulkoMandy>
To force failsafe graphics you need to set it in the kernel settings, I don't think just creating a vesa settings file is enough?
<OscarL>
PulkoMandy: he is using BeOS on that laptop.
<PulkoMandy>
Ah, right, forgot about how it works in BeOS
* Al2O3
is running on 18 year old hardware upgraded to the 'max', and working well.
<Al2O3>
heats the room too
<Al2O3>
would be sweet to have Haiku working on one of them, I have 3+ of them.
<coolcoder613_32>
It still had the code of whatever program the previous owner was writing in 2003
<Al2O3>
code, as in sources?
<coolcoder613_32>
yes
<Al2O3>
lol, most folks I know pull drives, or scrub them before they give up programming machine
<Al2O3>
oh well, apparently that stuff was OS or not interesting, or a huge/big mistake.
<coolcoder613_32>
It was last touched in 2003!
<coolcoder613_32>
it was called Wolf 3D ICM or something like that
<Al2O3>
well, there you go, that is outstanding, 20 year old stale code.
<coolcoder613_32>
i couldnt work out what it did
<Al2O3>
sounds like someone doing a 3d editor for wolf mapping
<Al2O3>
that was big back then
<coolcoder613_32>
Could be
<Al2O3>
from about 96-7 to about early 20K
<Al2O3>
2K
<Al2O3>
every jerkoff was doing their own editors
<coolcoder613_32>
I think it is likely
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<coolcoder613_32>
Al2O3: my grandfather used to run a little dell desktop (Optiplex?) from ~2003, maxed out with 1GB or RAM...
<coolcoder613_32>
It was his daily driver
<scanty>
i miss my old beos machine. dual p3 700, 512 ram
<coolcoder613_32>
Then something happened to the display card when i was trying to install Haiku on it...
<coolcoder613_32>
It showed the BIOS menu off half off the corner of the screen...
<coolcoder613_32>
He now uses a 2011 mac mini
<coolcoder613_32>
refurbished
<Al2O3>
scanty: you can likely build one again for durt cheep
<scanty>
i like mac os, but i'm not tempted to learn objective-c
<scanty>
Al2O3, even if i did, there's nowhere here to put it.
<scanty>
plus, haiku runs fine here
<Al2O3>
scanty: OSX and old ObjC are great, but there is other great too
<Al2O3>
ObjC may not be great now per se, since java notation has basically taken over, but the runtime system is spectacular, and vulnerable.
<Al2O3>
well, then no need to fix what is not broke :)
<scanty>
indeed
<scanty>
i had an old iBook, used to run yellow dog linux on.
<scanty>
it was nice
<scanty>
this was just before OSX came out.
<scanty>
Al2O3, I have the day off tomorrow, so I will get that 6502 stuff done for you.
<Al2O3>
yah, did that on old Crapple hardware, the PPC stuff, and on some other manufactures PPC hardware that were licensed to run mac.
<Al2O3>
scanty: no worries, would be great, but work first, money second, family third.
<Al2O3>
and then god and country :)
<Al2O3>
then IRC
<scanty>
hehe :-)
<Al2O3>
appreciated
<scanty>
np
<scanty>
BTW, where do you live?
<scanty>
you don't have to answer, i was just curious
* coolcoder613_32
is in Australia
<scanty>
mmm cool.
<scanty>
always wanted to go there.
<scanty>
someday...
<Al2O3>
coolcoder613[m]: you in melly?
<coolcoder613_32>
Yes
<Al2O3>
smelly melly :)
<Al2O3>
of course it doesn't smell, unless grass fires.
<scanty>
"Welcome to Australia, where local time is.... tomrrow"
<scanty>
tomorrow*
<Al2O3>
:)
<scanty>
Al2O3, care to share where you're from>?
<coolcoder613_32>
Thursday 9:08 AM here
<scanty>
5:08PM here.
<coolcoder613_32>
You can often tell the location from the ISP url in the join/leave messages
<Al2O3>
code_vaibhav[m]: even with Tor or other tools?
<scanty>
true, but not on ipv6
<Al2O3>
I mean some folks don't care, as an ISP access point my be 200-300 miles away.
<coolcoder613_32>
For example, with *** HaikuUser (~vision@150-66-118-47m5.mineo.jp) has quit IRC ()
<coolcoder613_32>
I can see this one is in japan
<coolcoder613_32>
with the .jp
<Al2O3>
well, .jp could be just tor redirection?
<Al2O3>
VPN do work.
<coolcoder613_32>
This is a connection from Vision, so probably not a VPN
<coolcoder613_32>
Unless it is Haiku in a VM
<scanty>
i always wonder why people forget, or simply don't set a proper ident.
<coolcoder613_32>
Could be first time, or just exploring the Applications...
<scanty>
suppose.
<Al2O3>
or folks just don't care
<Al2O3>
I know for a fact that in '91 siggraph when I was working in auditorium audio and visual, B. Gates showed up to the venue, the entire event even without security. Some folks simply don't care, he does now.
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<Al2O3>
time changes folks perception, and behavior.
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<Nintendo1889>
Can I install AROS from EFI usb yet? Or if not, what is the best way to install? I already asked on their IRC channel. I am not trying to install it from another AROS system, which the AROS documentation seems to assume that I am.
<Habbie>
but, i don't think you are in the right IRC channel :)
<Nintendo1889>
I know but there's many amiga users here
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<Skipp_OSX>
are there though?
<Skipp_OSX>
AROS ha!
<scanty>
isn't there an AROS channel you can goto?
<scanty>
looks like there's a live CD you can download.
<scanty>
not trying to be mean, but it's a Haiku shop here.
<Habbie>
yes, wrong channel
* AlienSoldier
is installing 32bit Falkon
<scanty>
AlienSoldier, let us know how it goes
<AlienSoldier>
so far install seem stuc :)
<AlienSoldier>
*stuck
* coolcoder613_32
is installing it too
<AlienSoldier>
needing to quite the installation but it still installed nonetheless
<AlienSoldier>
*quit
<AlienSoldier>
Super, did not crash on first page loaded and paypal can now login (first time in about 2 year)
<scanty>
nice
<AlienSoldier>
got my first crash creating a tab and closing it immediately. Broswser session survived and i can coninue like nothing hapenned.
<AlienSoldier>
so far memory usage is very acceptable
<scanty>
hopefully that was a fluke
<AlienSoldier>
well i can't recproduce that crash in the same way.
<AlienSoldier>
don't see detached floating windows like otter sometime did
<scanty>
sounds good... going to eat, bbl
<AlienSoldier>
I wish we could have a webpositive bookmark synchronisation integration
<AlienSoldier>
rapid scrolling work well
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<AlienSoldier>
contrary to Web, my numpad wor, French accents work and copy and paste work right away without needing to start it by making an internal copy paste
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<AlienSoldier>
*wor = work
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