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<zard> Ok, got the errors
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* coolcoder613_32 is compiling Valyria Tear
<Al2O3> howdie folks
* zard keeps learning about open source games he never knew about before :^)
<zard> Hello Al2O3 :)
<Al2O3> lol, 8EO5
<coolcoder613_32> zard: Have you ever played 0 AD?
<zard> Only a little once
<zard> But, I must say, impressive game
<zard> It's hard to believe that it's open source
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<zard> One of my favorites is Minetest. Ever played it?
<coolcoder613_32> yes
<zard> Now, if only that had the graphics of SuperTuxKart. *That* would be cool
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<AlienSoldier> one thing i noticed from using falkon is that from use i eventually freeze the system and only the mouse pointer can move.
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<Al2O3> AlienSoldier: what hardware, and Haiku release are you on?
<AlienSoldier> Al2O3 hvrev57449 amd kabini cpu
<AlienSoldier> it feel like it is hitting hardcoded limitation
<Al2O3> might be
<Al2O3> consider another machine?
<Al2O3> or find out where the freeze is occuring, likely swap or ???
<Al2O3> or just bad release objects code on falkon?
<Al2O3> anyway, I'd try another isntall, maybe even mirror your drive to another machine and see if that works.
<AlienSoldier> seem i still have memory left before this happen, unless it start to get it really fast
<AlienSoldier> i will eventually see a patern emmerge
<AlienSoldier> i guess mouse pointer is completly handled differently than the windows? Perhaps not even the app server?
<Al2O3> I do believe there is an event handler daemon, and its not window related.
<Al2O3> like most systems.
<Al2O3> 18 years later, I'm in hope its more advanced.
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<Al2O3> "… but use shared memory to cause as little delay as possible between the physical mouse move and the visual feedback on screen."
<AlienSoldier> The hang does not happen often
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<Sark> I've been hitting random issues with Falkon - like, a tab will just lock up and freeze and you can't interact with it any more.
<Sark> Or I'll get a crash window and one of the tabs goes blank.
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<coolcoder613_mac> I managed to get a 6MB binary down to 512K! (-Oz + -flto + upx)
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<Skipp_OSX> nice
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<Al2O3> yep, strip symbols, and of course optimus prime the shit, and get it hand widdled with ASM.
<Al2O3> coolcoder613[m]: now go in and hand sanitize the binary :)
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<coolcoder613_32> Hi Al2O3
<Al2O3> cooliol codinski
<Al2O3> hello
<coolcoder613_32> It's a shame upx doesn't do haiku binaries
<Al2O3> coolcoder613[m]: you could change that
<Al2O3> is OS, and you can make it happen
<coolcoder613_32> I can compile UPX and run it
<coolcoder613_32> Just not compress Haiku binaries
<Al2O3> can you not compress them, nor not compress and uncompress?
<Al2O3> seems you could compress any binary stream.
<Al2O3> so why can you not compress them with UPX, is there an error tossed?
<coolcoder613_32> No, it thinks they are linux binaries
<coolcoder613_32> and compresses them
<Al2O3> interesting.
<Al2O3> maybe its time to check out the github and header ID them?
<Al2O3> is there a header on the binaries of Haiku executable?
<Al2O3> like "I'm a Haiku Binary"
<Al2O3> :)
<Al2O3> not sure if that is true now, but seems there are some bits and pieces which ID an ELF executable, and it should be also sub ID'ed or otherwise as Haiku/BeOS.
<Al2O3> I'm not very savvy on this, but would seem plausible.
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* coolcoder613_32 feels like porting something
<Al2O3> would be nice if you could so, without working and worrying about upx?
<coolcoder613_32> No, i just don't know what to port
<Al2O3> oh, bring over the libc code that FUZxxl did
<Al2O3> there is 1 million options.
<Al2O3> Haiku needs options.
<Al2O3> the ported libc is all in SSE, and it needs to be brought over, part of a higher performance effort in Haiku on the baseline libs
<coolcoder613_32> I don't mean the sort of ports that need writing code, i mean the kind that invlolve preprocessor and makefilles (I'm no C/C++ programmer)
<Al2O3> oh, I don't think you need to write code for the libc SSE port, I think you need to figure out how to compile it.
<Al2O3> its either nasm, or its some other preprocessor to asm.
<Al2O3> might want to talk to FUZxxl on ##asm
<Al2O3> its up for grabs, and already tested.
<Al2O3> its open source, and it would bring high performance computing to the core of most apps
<Al2O3> just needs to be ported, aka, compiled.
<Al2O3> and then integrated, I believe its not 32 bit friendly, so it would need to be either upgraded to 32 bit and 64, or conditional compiled at the core of Haiku builds, or optional install.
<Al2O3> I'm not sure how it would be best integrated, other than made to be 32 and 64 friendly, and then tested as optional install, and after a while integrated.
<Al2O3> I do believe he did a shittonne of unit testing, by his admission.
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<coolcoder613_32> Hello Begasus
<Begasus> Hi coolcoder613_32
<Begasus> hate this .... make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'. Stop.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57461] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e691cf1eed45+%5Eb5ba4badb309
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e691cf1eed45 - ffmpeg: avcodec_free_context seems to also free extradata
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<Begasus> ~> ZXingReader 16057090
<Begasus> Text: "Haiku is the best!"
<Begasus> Bytes: 48 61 69 6B 75 20 69 73 20 74 68 65 20 62 65 73 74 21
<Begasus> Format: QRCode
<Begasus> that's working :)
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<lorglas> Hello
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<jmairboeck> Hi Begasus!
<jmairboeck> What buildsystem does the thing use you tried to uninstall? CMake?
<jmairboeck> for cmake there is a trick: `xargs rm < install_manifest.txt` in the build directory
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi there!!!
<Begasus> hi jmairboeck, thanks for the tip (and yes it was cmake)
<Begasus> Hi andreasdr[m]
<Begasus> Hello lorglas
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi Begasus.
<andreasdr[m]> How is the porting going?
<andreasdr[m]> Did try Falkon yesterday in my VM. Had no crash. Seem to have improved.
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<Begasus> nothing real important andreasdr[m], just doing some playing around lately
<Begasus> and yes, with the updated qtwebengine web experience has improved :)
<andreasdr[m]> Nice.
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<Begasus> everything is working as it should, so only some maintenance once in a while
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8ea26dc74d91...c0494bee9670
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c0494be - mawk, bump version (#9871)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c0494bee9670...527d9622a813
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 527d962 - zxing_cpp, new recipe (#9890)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/527d9622a813...3d43741194e0
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3d43741 - zxing_cpp, disable for gcc2 (#9891)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+4/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3d43741194e0...718728c48cc8
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 718728c - Telegram: bump version
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/718728c48cc8...e5a6a00eec57
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli e5a6a00 - iasl: bump version
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 15338de99f02 - Update ACPICA to 20230628
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57462] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=15338de99f02+%5Ee691cf1eed45
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<Skipp_OSX> and I thought that I was the only one who did XL changes...
<Skipp_OSX> wow
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<Begasus> Entering the next century? ;)
<bitigchi[m]> Skipp_OSX: what’s next on the roadmap? RO folder size and positions by any chance 😅
<Skipp_OSX> I know how to fix that one, but it's not next
<bitigchi[m]> I can wait knowing it’ll come one day 😅
<bitigchi[m]> Thanks for caring about that though
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e5a6a00eec57...8f2c735bf958
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 15cdee6 - falkon: add dependency on libstdc++
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 015e620 - qt5: add dependency on libstdc++
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 8f2c735 - qt6_base: add dependency on libstdc++
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<Begasus> Some nice to have (mobile) apps :) https://ibb.co/xzHGWH8
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8f2c735bf958...1cebc48d9bc6
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 1cebc48 - terminal_theme_catppuccin, revbump for fixed version upstream (#9892)
<augiedoggie> i need to figure out why Haiku is locking up on me when trying to port things :/
<augiedoggie> certain autoconf and cmake scripts get stuck in a loop and then bring down the whole system when i kill them
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<Begasus> jikes augiedoggie
<augiedoggie> i'll have to try building the bad ones on beta4 and see if it still crashes
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<Begasus> These things here work pretty well on the latest kde framework, not having much luck on the one in the depot, although I could listen to podcast earlier on 32bit with them :)
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<Begasus> grabbing kongress-23.08.4-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/kongress-23.08.4-1-x86_64.hpkg :)
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<waddlesplash> augiedoggie: bring down as in KDL or hang? either way a reproducer on a ticket will be very helpful
<augiedoggie> total lockup, no KDL
<waddlesplash> can you manually get to KDL?
<augiedoggie> doubtful but i haven't tried
<augiedoggie> i could probably get into the userland debugger to see what the commands are doing
<augiedoggie> they just eat up 100% cpu until i kill them and then it brings down everything
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/e2e85821e30b...73195495404e
<botifico-ecd96135> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 7319549 - rsync: Update ipfs sync ips
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<augiedoggie> can't get to KDL once it freezes
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<Begasus> time to close down, cu peeps!
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<Anarchos> hello
<phschafft> mau Anarchos.
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<BrunoSpr> fk hello all
<zdykstra> Hello hello!
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