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Skipp_OSX >
around but can't help
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scantysnax >
i see. well i'm going to eat dinner, perhaps someone can help me a little bit later.
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coolcoder613_mac >
I think I can help, scantysnax
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phschafft >
maybe if you tell us what the problem is. ;)
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coolcoder613_mac >
Hi zard
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zard >
Hello coolcoder613_mac :)
00:30
* coolcoder613_mac
just went from 400-something tabs down to 52 tabs
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coolcoder613_mac >
In Safari
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* zard
just recently started building a pile of tabs
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zard >
Thanks to a vertical tab bar extension and a need for them
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coolcoder613_mac >
But, that wasn't the only browser I had open ;)
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zard >
I like my tiling window manager (i3). Very useful to keep a large amount of windows organized
00:35
* coolcoder613_mac
thinks tiling WMs eat up screen space too fast
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coolcoder613_mac >
(Probably because i don't have any big screens)
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zard >
I don't either. I use virtual desktops and window tabbing to deal with that
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coolcoder613_mac >
My biggest screen is 16 inches
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zard >
And I can make tab groups of tabs ;)
00:37
* zard
gets a ruler
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zard >
My laptop screen (the device I'm typing from) is only 1 foot large, and I run i3 on it too
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coolcoder613_mac >
And this one... A little over 11"
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zard >
I guess an analogy for i3 is: it's like files and folders, but windows are files and tab groups and virtual desktops are folders
00:40
* coolcoder613_mac
wants Lemmings on Haiku
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coolcoder613_mac >
The game
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coolcoder613_mac >
There is pingus, but it's not the same
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zard >
Clearly you know more about retro-computing than I do
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scantysnax >
okay, so this is my sftp problem.
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scantysnax >
Unable to negotiate with 69.162.163.6 port 22: no matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa
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scantysnax >
Connection closed.
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scantysnax >
Connection closed
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coolcoder613_mac >
have you edited the sshd config?
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scantysnax >
I have not.
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scantysnax >
I didn't know I had to.
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coolcoder613_mac >
On Haiku, yes
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augiedoggie >
that sounds like the ssh-keygen script failed to run
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scantysnax >
i tried ssh-keygen
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scantysnax >
that didn't work
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scantysnax >
should I edit /boot/home/settings/ssh/sshd_config?
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augiedoggie >
i mean the sshd_keymaker.sh script
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scantysnax >
oh hmm
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augiedoggie >
should be in /boot/system/boot/post-install/
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scantysnax >
ok, let's see...
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scantysnax >
still same issue
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coolcoder613_mac >
What is Root-Login in sshd_config
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coolcoder613_mac >
because `user` in Haiku is root
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scantysnax >
I don't have that setting in my sshd_config
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coolcoder613_mac >
nano sshd_config
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coolcoder613_mac >
^W root
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scantysnax >
in styled edit?
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scantysnax >
oh whoops
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coolcoder613_mac >
Well, in StyledEdit Alt+F root
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scantysnax >
#PermitRootLogin prohibit-password
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scantysnax >
should i uncomment that?
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augiedoggie >
it looks like that error is pretty common
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coolcoder613_mac >
Change it to: 'PermitRootLogin yes' if you want to be able to log in with a password
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scantysnax >
okay, let's see....
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scantysnax >
nope, still doesn't let me in
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augiedoggie >
you're connecting to Haiku from a Linux box like Debian?
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scantysnax >
yes, virtualbox
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scantysnax >
from debian
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scanty >
I added HostKeyAlgorithms = +ssh-rsa
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scanty >
PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms = +ssh-rsa
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scanty >
to ssh_config in debian
01:22
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scanty >
stil doesn't work.
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scanty >
thanks guys for your help
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scanty >
i really appreciate it
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augiedoggie >
same error?
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augiedoggie >
hm, dunno, maybe just do your sftp'ing from the other direction, connect to debian from haiku :P
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scantysnax >
I'm trying to connect to my shell account from haiku
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scantysnax >
sorry for any misunderstanding
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augiedoggie >
ok, so the ssh_config changes should be in Haiku
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augiedoggie >
i wonder if openssh recently deprecated rsa or something
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coolcoder613_mac >
Maybe use sshfs?
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augiedoggie >
i don't have a problem in either direction to Arch Linux
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scantysnax >
strange.
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scantysnax >
I dont' know what to do, maybe I"ll reboot the machine
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scantysnax >
oh well.
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scantysnax >
stupid question, does sshd need to be running?
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augiedoggie >
on the host you're connecting to
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scantysnax >
ah okay
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scantysnax >
i will try filezilla for shits & giggles.
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scanty >
well, i'm done for the night.
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boody24[m] >
Hello guys
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boody24[m] >
How are you all?
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coolcoder613_mac >
Hello boody24[m]
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boody24[m] >
I'm preparing for gsoc and just wanted to ask If it is possible to join the team without knowledge about operating systems
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boody24[m] >
I'm still a first year student
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boody24[m] >
and my only knowledge is Data structures and algorithms and c++
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coolcoder613_mac >
GSOC does not have to be about the kernel
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coolcoder613_mac >
You can be doing a task for a userspace application
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coolcoder613_mac >
Like the web browser
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coolcoder613_mac >
Or the text editor
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boody24[m] >
coolcoder613_mac: So c++ is enough?
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boody24[m] >
coolcoder613_mac: Ah
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boody24[m] >
Got it
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boody24[m] >
So what should I care about these next months to increase my chances?
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coolcoder613_mac >
Well, it may be a good idea to gain some experience with the Haiku API
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boody24[m] >
trying to find issues and solve them?
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coolcoder613_mac >
That too
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boody24[m] >
coolcoder613_mac: Ok cool
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boody24[m] >
Thanks
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coolcoder613_mac >
boody24[m]: Start using Haiku, maybe even full time
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Reinhilde >
of interest, does haiku support wacom digitizers at all?
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boody24[m] >
coolcoder613_mac: I will)
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coolcoder613_mac >
Start playing around, see what is missing, do some tutorials
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scanty >
well, i put the file i needed on http and downloaded it from haiku.
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scanty >
my question is, do i have a legit bug, or is there something wrong with what i'm doing?
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augiedoggie >
i think it's just a matter of getting the configuration right
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augiedoggie >
scanty: i can connect to that host when i use the command line options from that first link i posted
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scanty >
suppose i can look into it further tomorrow.
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augiedoggie >
so, it's just a matter of getting it right in the ssh_config file
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scanty >
this line: ssh -i key.pem shell@3.252.167.165 -o HostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa -o PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa
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scanty >
i tried that and it said it couldn't find key.pem
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augiedoggie >
well, you're not doing key authentication
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augiedoggie >
you just want the -o stuff
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augiedoggie >
sftp user@host -o HostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa -o PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa
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scanty >
so ssh <ip> -o etc..
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augiedoggie >
yeah, ssh or sftp
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scanty >
okay i will try it now, hold on
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scanty >
oooh it worked!
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augiedoggie >
nice :)
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scanty >
do I have to do that every time?
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augiedoggie >
until you make the proper changes to ~/config/settings/ssh/ssh_config
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augiedoggie >
then it will set those options for you
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scanty >
okay, let me try that now.
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scanty >
just add the HostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa, and the other one?
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augiedoggie >
yeah, you can add it to a "Host" entry of just do it globally i think
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augiedoggie >
s/of/or/
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scantysnax >
augiedoggie, like this: Host HostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa
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scantysnax >
and so on for the other oen
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augiedoggie >
Host myhostname.net
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augiedoggie >
and then the two options below that
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scantysnax >
ah okay
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scantysnax >
Host shell.reverse.net
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scantysnax >
HostKeyAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa
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scantysnax >
Host PubKeyAcceptedAlgorithms=+ssh-rsa
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scantysnax >
okay, i will try it now.
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augiedoggie >
well, you have an extra Host in there
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augiedoggie >
on the last line
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scantysnax >
oh whoops typo.
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scanty >
thanks augiedoggie
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scantysnax >
great, i can now resume my work tomorrow, thanks again, and good night all
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scantysnax >
saved the file on my shell just in case i need it for the next time i install haiku
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Skipp_OSX >
anybody on Haiku?
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Al2O3 >
suspect many here are
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Skipp_OSX >
right click on a query in your queries folder, should Edit query really go between Open and Open with... ?
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Al2O3 >
positionally, from a GUI and use case likely.
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Al2O3 >
what is your use case concern?
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Al2O3 >
if open and open … are next to each other, does that make the most sense?
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Al2O3 >
open usually the first case, then second open with … and finally edit lastly?
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Skipp_OSX >
my use case scenario is I'm trying to put the menu back together as it was before but I want to make sure the way it was before was not a mistake.
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Al2O3 >
well, I have no idea, but I can see someone having Haiku running would be able to help you if they too haven't mucked up the menu
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Skipp_OSX >
oh I have, but not in this case
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Skipp_OSX >
ok here we go, loaded up the R5
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augiedoggie >
that menu moves
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augiedoggie >
sometimes it's after
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augiedoggie >
strange
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Skipp_OSX >
ok we're getting somewhere...
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augiedoggie >
when i first open the window it's between but after right clicking another query it moves after and stays there
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Skipp_OSX >
Open with... looks for Open and inserts itself afterwords and Edit query also inserts itself so it could depend on if the menu gets which message first.
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Skipp_OSX >
I'm going to assume that Edit query is indeed not suppose to go between Open and Open with...
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Skipp_OSX >
before Open or after Open with ... ?
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Al2O3 >
is there a way to make it a priority and arrangement other than just insertion?
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Al2O3 >
weird to have it change position
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Al2O3 >
in fact, not good
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Skipp_OSX >
yeah it's doing some magic, not my magic
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Al2O3 >
yep, and not good magic
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Skipp_OSX >
black magic
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Al2O3 >
I mean I get its a threaded system, but there has to be ways to put and remove things, and re-add them as a priority in position.
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Al2O3 >
not just add, and then forget about it, maybe a menu item manager, but maybe the menu itself can and will manage when adding.
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Al2O3 >
anyway, sure someone can or has figured it out so this kind of things doesn't happen.
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HaikuUser >
wie installiere ich den 98 Wubi Computer in der becjk eingabenmethode_
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Al2O3 >
:) no ideas how to install the 98 Wubi computer in the becjk input method
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HaikuUser >
How to install the code table of 98 Wubi into Becjk input method_
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Al2O3 >
I still have no clue
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HaikuUser >
becjk is the chinese input method in the haiku system,i plan to change the input method code table now,but i dont know how to do it ,do you have a solution,the haiku system is good ,but there is no useful chinese character input method.
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OscarL >
Bah... HaikuUser just left :-/
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coolcoder613_mac >
Hi OscarL
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OscarL >
There's a "cin2dic/cin/Simplified Chinese/wubizixing.cin" file there, maybe that's the one that HaikuUser needs to modify?
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OscarL >
Hi coolcoder613_mac! Saw your .diff and full sources links for the Turbo editor.
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OscarL >
Will give them a spin as soon as I can, thanks.
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coolcoder613_mac >
The .diff doesn't have the patch in tvision
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Al2O3 >
TY for clarity on what the heck is becjk
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OscarL >
ok. got both files earlier anyway, coolcoder613_mac.
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OscarL >
coolcoder613_mac: next time instead of full git clone, you could just extract your changes with git patch or something :-P
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coolcoder613_mac >
Becouse of submodules
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OscarL >
in any case... thanks again! And yeah... those submodules... without proper tarballs, maybe I'll need to do a "_bin" .recipe. Will see,
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coolcoder613_mac >
But i think there is a build flag to use system tvision
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OscarL >
good to know!
06:25
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coolcoder613_mac >
Check the README
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OscarL >
Will do. For now... I disappear! Later folks, have a good one!
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botifico-ecd96135 >
[haikuports/haikuports] jackburton79 7d69aa2 - BeScreenCapture 2.9.0 (#9903)
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Begasus >
g'morning peeps
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coolcoder613_mac >
Hello Begasus
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Begasus >
Hi coolcoder613_mac Al2O3
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Begasus >
kuserfeedback working in Kate :)
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botifico-ecd96135 >
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d259b85 - kuserfeedback, new kde framework (#9905)
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Begasus >
org.kde.pim.akonadiserver: Database "/boot/system/cache/akonadiserver/akonadi/instance/testrunner-86566/akonadi.db" opened using driver "QSQLITE"
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Begasus >
progress :)
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bitigchi[m] >
Begasus: 🔥🔥🔥
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Begasus >
could use a real developer bitigchi[m] :D
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[haikuports/haikuports] InfiniteVerma 7e5dbb0 - kate+kwrite: bump version to 23.08.4 (#9904)
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dualmyname[m] >
does haiku run windows apps
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Begasus >
there is wine, not sure how usable it is, but wouldn't count my blessings there
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Begasus >
what kind of app(s)?
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botifico-ecd96135 >
[haikuports/haikuports] jackburton79 a67efe4 - Genio 2 recipe (#9906)
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Begasus >
cu peeps!
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Skipp_OSX >
dualmyname[m] not Eudora/Aurora if that's what you're asking
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botifico-ecd96135 >
[haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb f782ae0 - genio: fix 32bit build
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coolcoder613_32 >
Good morning
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Skipp_OSX >
it being Tracker
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is trying to build ladybird on Haiku
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Skipp_OSX >
Serenity fan huh?
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coolcoder613_32 >
the build stops because it cant find gettid
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coolcoder613_32 >
Skipp_OSX: Not until it has a package manager and I can get it on hardware without wiping the hard drive ;)
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coolcoder613_32 >
There is a recipe for ladybird, and it has Haiku build instructions
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Skipp_OSX >
we don't have gettid apparently
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coolcoder613_32 >
It just hasn't been tested on Haiku
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Skipp_OSX >
I thought Alexander or whatever his name is ported to Haiku
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coolcoder613_32 >
It uses:
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coolcoder613_32 >
#elif defined(__HAIKU__)
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coolcoder613_32 >
tid = get_pthread_thread_id(pthread_self());
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Skipp_OSX >
makes sense, libpthread is included in libbe.so
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Skipp_OSX >
which was a bad move in the long run because software tries to include libpthread and it complains that it's already there.
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Skipp_OSX >
but there you go, that's the explanation
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Skipp_OSX >
I'm sure that someone could write a gettid wrapper so we support the function.
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waddlesplash >
libpthread is in libroot
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waddlesplash >
and now -lpthread and -pthread work on haiku
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waddlesplash >
so there's no issues
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Skipp_OSX >
ok yeah that then
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Skipp_OSX >
just need someone to write that wrapper method
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coolcoder613_32 >
Or even a preproccesor wrapper?
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Skipp_OSX >
define and export the function, no preprocessor
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coolcoder613_32 >
My code:
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coolcoder613_32 >
#ifdef
__HAIKU__
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coolcoder613_32 >
#include <os/kernel/OS.h>
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coolcoder613_32 >
#include <pthread.h>
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coolcoder613_32 >
#define gettid() get_pthread_thread_id(pthread_self())
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Skipp_OSX >
should work around the issue
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botifico-ecd96135 >
[haikuports/haikuports] hfsfox 5112cbf - i2pd: bump version (#9907)
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Skipp_OSX >
Shouldn't "Close in all workspace" be "Close is all workspaces" ?
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coolcoder613_32 >
Close in all workspaces
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Skipp_OSX >
I ain't changin' it
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augiedoggie >
ladybird is in Haiku Depot already
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coolcoder613_32 >
An old version
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scanty >
what is ladybird?
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augiedoggie >
i wonder if 3deyes keeps a copy in his repo
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scanty >
ah, i see it is a browser.
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scanty >
don't we have enough browsers to make one of them really really good?
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augiedoggie >
it's hard to find people that want to work on a browser
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scanty >
i suppose a proper mail client would be the same?
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augiedoggie >
yeah, most mail clients need a web rendering engine to handle html emails
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scanty >
i wish it were easier to port firefox and thunderbird.
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sorry, i'm just looking for something to work on
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scanty >
something that's not my NES emulator.
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coolcoder613_32 >
Hmm... What about an email client using LibWeb from ladybird?