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<OscarL>
note to future Begasus: aclocal (from automake) seems to be missing a dependency on cmd:libtoolize
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<Calisto>
Heyyyy... Btw since I'm going to try drafting a proposal sometime in the future for GSoC, should I be stating the issues that I have solved till now? PulkoMandy had given me 3 to get started out... Im going to try and fix the other one by tomorrow hopefully :) Any advice?
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<OscarL>
Calisto: not many people awake at these hours, I think (at least not those with experience on GSoC matters).
<Calisto>
Oh okay 😅
<Calisto>
Right right i keep forgetting the time zone thing
<Calisto>
Well in any case
<OscarL>
you might try later today, or ask on the forums/mailing list.
<Calisto>
Yup
<Calisto>
The general one or the dev one?
<OscarL>
dev one, I think.
<Calisto>
Because if its the dev one, I might as well just reply to the current email sent to me by PulkoMandy right?
<OscarL>
I know some past GSoC mentors do pay attention there, and haven't seem them here in a couple of years, for example :-D
<Calisto>
Oh okayyyy
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<OscarL>
in general, using public channels will give you more changes of getting more replies from diferent people, I think.
<OscarL>
s/changes/chanses/ (damn typos!)
<Calisto>
Rightt that makes sense
<OscarL>
*chances. damn!
* OscarL
can't English.
<Calisto>
Okay then I'll send an email on the dev mailing list as well
<Calisto>
xD
<Calisto>
Thank you so much OscarL
<Calisto>
Btw what time zone are u in.
<Calisto>
?*
<OscarL>
no problem! UTC-3:00 (Argentina)
<Calisto>
Oh ok cool will keep that in mind
<Calisto>
Okay then I'll be AFK for a while
<Calisto>
Have uni now xD
<Calisto>
Bye :)
<OscarL>
later!
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<Begasus>
still an anoying thing with the forum software is trying to add screenshots in a post :/
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<Begasus>
biab
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<CalistoMathias>
Hey so I just had a question.... turns out i made a tiny mistake while doing the Media Player Settings fix
<nephele>
Oh no!
<CalistoMathias>
i fixed it just now
<CalistoMathias>
it was a pretty stupid mistake but its fine
<CalistoMathias>
i want to edit the commit now
<CalistoMathias>
like i have to edit the same one right?
<CalistoMathias>
before pushing it again?
<Begasus[m]>
happens to all of us ;)
<CalistoMathias>
this time i tested it out on different font sizes and its pretty much fine
<CalistoMathias>
i finally understood why the b_control_look->DefaultSpacingItem() was used in the first place xD
<CalistoMathias>
so basically now that I want to change my commit...
<CalistoMathias>
i just have to do the regular git add .
<CalistoMathias>
but rather than git commit a new message and everything I need to do git commit --amend right?
<Begasus[m]>
nephele should know there :)
<CalistoMathias>
so should I be doing that?
<Begasus[m]>
how I use it is git add/git commit --amend
<Begasus[m]>
last one can be used to change the commit message
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay so i have to do the git add followed by the regular commit just with an --amend
<Begasus[m]>
but I don't know if that works the same at gerrit
<CalistoMathias>
after that I need to rebase and push?
<CalistoMathias>
like that's what I did yesterday night
<CalistoMathias>
just wanted to confirm whether its like that while I need to edit the previous commit as well
<CalistoMathias>
because the reviewer told there was an issue with the font size thing which I just fixed now
<nephele>
if you have the git hook installed AND the HEAD commit is the one you want to change on gerrit
<nephele>
then yes, use git add, then git commit --amend
<CalistoMathias>
cool
<CalistoMathias>
thanks so much
<CalistoMathias>
after that its the regular rebasing + pushing right?
<CalistoMathias>
nothing extra to do there?
<nephele>
you can then check with "git show HEAD" or "git diff HEAD HEAD~1" that it's the right commit
<nephele>
no need to rebase, just push it git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master
<nephele>
you should rebase yourself sometimes to keep your sanity though
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<CalistoMathias>
okay its pushing xD
<CalistoMathias>
kind of scared lmao
<CalistoMathias>
hopefully everything goes fine
<CalistoMathias>
i really don't want to screw this up xD
<Begasus>
it's still a learning process CalistoMathias, I'm sure upstream can handle it :)
<CalistoMathias>
yah :)
<CalistoMathias>
well it worked properly :D
<CalistoMathias>
and it pushed it
<CalistoMathias>
hopefully it passes the review :D
<CalistoMathias>
tho i think I fixed it fine this time
<CalistoMathias>
btw could someone exactly tell what be_control_layout->DefaultSpacingItem() return? like does it return a responsive width or something?
<CalistoMathias>
or is it just a fixed number?
<Begasus>
If I build a package from source can I launch it in R1B4? (well it did with the About window) but still ;)
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<B2IA>
(UnrealNeil) butler catsup
<nephele>
CalistoMathias: control_layout? or control_look?
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<CalistoMathias>
sorry sorry control_look
<CalistoMathias>
also i don't really get the implication of weight
<CalistoMathias>
in the .Add() [or equivalent] in the layout builders?
<CalistoMathias>
what do they exactly do?
<nephele>
I think you mean be_control_look->DefaultItemSpacing() ?
<CalistoMathias>
yup that one... like I wanna know what exactly it returns ... and also what is the implication of the weight in the .Add() functions
<nephele>
here the be_control_look is the current BControlLook that is configured, this is a *library* that the app_server will load, however this can be changed by the user, and change at runtime
<nephele>
for example on the forums the FlatControlLook
<nephele>
it is called because the ControlLook will dictate what spacing you ought to use
<nephele>
it depends on the code of the controlLook what will be returns
<nephele>
returned*
<nephele>
You can check in src/kits/interface/HaikuControlLook.cpp for the default implementation in HaikuControlLook
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<Calisto>
Oh okay cool
<Calisto>
Ill try reading through that
<nephele>
The default in HaikuControlLook is return "ceilf(be_plain_font->Size() * 0.85);"
<Calisto>
Ohhh okay
<Calisto>
Just another small question... I was trying to fix another tiny issue that was given to me by mail from the GSoc reply
<Calisto>
I tried compiling the source code for the app
<Calisto>
But the app that I compile and run
<Begasus>
whoot!!!
<Begasus>
time to hop in :P
<Calisto>
Is different from the app that is installed
<Calisto>
So I'm kind of confused
<Calisto>
The compiled edition gives me the same kind of issue as described in the ticket
<Calisto>
While the installed edition is different
<Calisto>
Or is it cuz until the ticket is fixed they are using a different edition of the app
<Calisto>
?
<nephele>
more context please
<nephele>
what application, what issue, and where did you try to fix it
<nephele>
if the fix is in a system library you need to test this seperately
<Calisto>
Devices
<Calisto>
Is the one
<Calisto>
Wait I'll give the ticket number
* Begasus
retracks himself for duty for a while :D
<Calisto>
The ticket is 18213
<Calisto>
nephele:
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<nephele>
Calisto: where did you develop the fix? in which system component?
<nephele>
I'm guessing you just want to remove the TabView so this looks plane?
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<Calisto>
Yup that's the issue
<Calisto>
That there's only one tab
<Calisto>
So there's no point of a tab view
<Calisto>
Or maybe it's just some weird issue
<Calisto>
Wait lemme cross check
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<nephele>
hmm :)
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<PulkoMandy>
Calisto: Are you running beta 4? The Devices app changed a bit since beta4
<PulkoMandy>
That's what this ticket is about, finishing up these changes by removing the now useless tab view with a single tab
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<Calisto>
Yah i think I am
<Calisto>
I was running the latest version I guess
<Calisto>
Wait lemme just check once
<Calisto>
So in the latest version, the ticket is already closed or something like that?
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<nephele>
No. If it's closed it's closed.
<nephele>
If it's open that means it's not fixed
<nephele>
(unless someone forgot)
<PulkoMandy>
Calisto: In beta 4 (last release, from last year), there were multiple tabs in the tab view
<PulkoMandy>
In the current nightly builds, the one you compiled, there is only one tab, so a tab view is useless. The goal of a tab view is to switch between different tabs
<PulkoMandy>
So the app must be further changed to remove the tab view, and have the content of the single tab put directly in the window, without a tab around it
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<Calisto>
Yup I use r1/beta4 PulkoMandy
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<andreasdr[m]>
Hi there.
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay i see @pulkomandy
<CalistoMathias>
so now in the compiled version i should find a way to just show one view
<zard>
Yes, if you compile on 32 bit, you should be compiling with gcc version 2
<zard>
You can check using gcc -v (gcc --version, I'm not sure)
<muhamed_emad[m]>
zard: Ohh, okay thanks.
<nephele>
gcc2 is only relevant for OS development for parts that are build with gcc2
<nephele>
if you develop any new or third party project don't use it
<Begasus>
:P
<zard>
And yet here is Icon-O-Matic, still using it
* zard
wonders if that's actually necessary. Quite hard to support
<nephele>
"Is this a library providing BeOS compatibility"?
<nephele>
If the answer is No then no, it is not
<nephele>
ideally someone could add a gcc2 abi support to clang/llvm, then we can use that and can gcc2
<zard>
Perhaps it's because Icon-O-Matic has to interface to libicon? And libicon may need to be used by some part of the code that has to be compiled with gcc2?
<zard>
Ah wait, we can compile libicon with a modern gcc, so that it works with Icon-O-Matic again
<zard>
So, just have two copies of it on the system, if necessary
<PulkoMandy>
We already do that for libraries
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<PulkoMandy>
For applications we have only started migrating some. But there are some arguments for staying with gcc2 (for example, in iconomatic, using old translators from beos to export your icons to strange image formats would be possible thanks to building it with gcc2)
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<nosycat>
Hello!
<zard>
o/
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<OscarL>
dovsienko: something like "hrev57609+dirty" if I'm not mistaken.
<dovsienko>
I tried to find the bit of code that constructs the version string, but got lost in the build system files pretty quickly
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<OscarL>
Only tried it once myself (installing a custom .hpkg), but hrevXXXX+dirty at least shows ups a couple of times on the IRC logs :-)
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<OscarL>
Bah... fixed path hyperlink for my use case... broke it for paths starting with ~ :-D
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<OscarL>
well, broke detection of relative paths if it looks something like: "[~/rel/path (foobar)]" at least (as in my prompt line).
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<CalistoMathias>
@OscarL they push was accepted :D
<CalistoMathias>
Had to make a small change but it got accepted :D
<OscarL>
CalistoMathias: congrats on the +1! Buuut... you need at least a +2 before it gets merged :-D
<CalistoMathias>
oh yah I guessed that was the reason
<CalistoMathias>
but im still so happy that it went through +1 atleast xD
<CalistoMathias>
at first it didn't go through and i was like ughhhhh but then I realised I had made a very lame mistake and finally it went through... so now that it has gone through +1 will they assign a new reviewer who will check again for +2?
<OscarL>
CalistoMathias: indeed! Just keep in mind that *sometimes*, even if you get a +2, it may take a while for your change to get merged.
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
that's quite alright
<CalistoMathias>
im just happy that im finally doing something with the C++ i learnt xD
<CalistoMathias>
makes sense tho there are sooo many issues on gerrit
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<CalistoMathias>
that probaby are more important than the small fix that I made
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<OscarL>
CalistoMathias: not unusual for even small patches to require lots of back-and-forth too, so... don't despair if that happens with any of your proposed changes.
<CalistoMathias>
yup... I guess its part of the process right?
<OscarL>
indeed.
<OscarL>
hopefully, you'll learn quicker than I do, so you'll have an easier time with this from now on :-D
<CalistoMathias>
btw BRow doesn't have any docs?
<CalistoMathias>
hopefully...
<CalistoMathias>
at first i was scared to do the commit --amend thing
<CalistoMathias>
because i thought it would mess up the commit history and stuff
<CalistoMathias>
but it went alright :)
<CalistoMathias>
as for cleaning the branch i should wait until it gets a +2 before thinking about doing that right?
<nephele>
CalistoMathias: +1 can be done by anyone, +2 only by commiters
<nephele>
Sometimes commiters may +2 the change and merge it themselves
<nephele>
but it may also be that someone +1's your change and someone else -1's it
<CalistoMathias>
ohhhh i see
<CalistoMathias>
so its like a constant back anda forth until whatever the code is supposed to do is perfected
<CalistoMathias>
and only then is it merged?
<CalistoMathias>
makes sense
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<nephele>
Well, it doesn't need to be perfect. But we try to avoid code that is wrong, or doesn't follow the code style
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<CalistoMathias>
yup
<nephele>
for new apis this is even more "meh" since removing something from the public api is not so easy
<CalistoMathias>
rightttt
<nephele>
You can check my review for new apis for the colors, that was quite a bit of back and forth :D
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay I will defenitely do that
<CalistoMathias>
In the meantime I think I should go through the deskbar LayoutAPI code to better understand everyting
<CalistoMathias>
and try my hand at fixing the tab view issue in the devices app
<CalistoMathias>
though I have no idea how to get started on that as there is no API docs
<zard>
Yeah, it would be nice to have more docs on that. I usually read code that uses the api to figure out how it works if it has no docs
<zard>
nephele: LayoutAPI
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<zard>
If you want, you can try writing some docs for it ;)
<CalistoMathias>
yah there is like a lot of docs that are missing
<CalistoMathias>
but the only problem is even im just starting to learn the layoutAPI so its pretty hard to comprehend what something is doing
<CalistoMathias>
maybe if someday i get pretty good at the API
<CalistoMathias>
i can give it a shot
<nephele>
But there are docs?
<CalistoMathias>
yah there is
<CalistoMathias>
but a lot of the classes are missing as well ig uess
<CalistoMathias>
like the BRow thing that I wanted to read just now doesn't have a doc page at all
<nephele>
yes it may not be optimal
<CalistoMathias>
neither does ColumnTypes.h ever get referenced anywhere
<nephele>
Hey, atleast we added a search function to the api docs :D
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<CalistoMathias>
so im just confused as to how to go forward with it
<CalistoMathias>
yup
<CalistoMathias>
honestly the docs that are written as of now
<CalistoMathias>
are really good
<CalistoMathias>
like they were pretty useful while I was trying to understand already written code
<nephele>
should remove the search function, you will never be able to tell what I didn't document mihahaha
<dovsienko>
perhaps it could be a useful idea to see which documentation is lacking, and to ask students to add the documentation before any code
<CalistoMathias>
but for the ones that don't exist Im pretty confused
<nephele>
dovsienko: ask students to document code they don't understand? D:
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<CalistoMathias>
the only thing im worried about is whether I would be able to completel learning everythign that I would need :(
<CalistoMathias>
before I can make in a proposal for the query tracker window
<CalistoMathias>
PulkoMandy had first told me to learn the LayoutAPI followed by the Query system on Haiku so that I can make meaningful contributions sometime in the future
<dovsienko>
in my experience, the method works better than nothing
<CalistoMathias>
the documenting before creating the code?
<nephele>
and this header actually has inline focumentation
<nephele>
documentation*
<CalistoMathias>
do you think it would help if I do that somewhere? while trying to read through a header file
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
ill go through that one then
<CalistoMathias>
idk i tried somethign weird
<nephele>
Not really, if you understand it and feel docs are missing go ahead
<CalistoMathias>
but it crashed the devices app that I compiled
<nephele>
but i don't think just documenting something you don't understand yet helps
<CalistoMathias>
the thing is the BTab that contains a PropertyView which I guess is a child class somewhere of BView... but when I tried to add the PropertyView directly to the Splitlayout
<CalistoMathias>
and compiled it
<CalistoMathias>
the app did compile
<CalistoMathias>
but on running it... it crashes
<nephele>
check the debug report
<CalistoMathias>
so then I thought maybe I should try and read the definitions of the classes before giving it another shot
<Al2O3>
have you stepped through it in gdb?
<dovsienko>
the point is to capture missing knowledge at the time one realises which knowledge is missing, not after the project is done
<nephele>
Al2O3: on Haiku?
<dovsienko>
but you can use a different method, of course
<CalistoMathias>
wait wait I didn't get you dovsienko?
<Al2O3>
no gdb in Haiku?
<nephele>
We have Debugger, which is a GUI application
<zard>
Al2O3: No, not really
<Al2O3>
is the GUI app/IDE got tracing, breakpoints, conditionals?
<zard>
Yes, thought not all of it works perfectly
<nephele>
it's not an IDE, it's a Debugger
<zard>
Conditionals didn't work, last I tried
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<dovsienko>
CalistoMathias: if the existing documentation does not say something important and you spend a considerable time figuring it out, it may be a good idea to update the documentation as soon as you have figured out which bit is missing, as opposed to after the entire project is done
<nephele>
zard: that depends /s
<CalistoMathias>
ohhh that definitely does make sense
<nephele>
dovsienko: I agree on that point yeah
<CalistoMathias>
i guess later... there is a tendency to forget something someone might have figured out as well
<CalistoMathias>
i guess ill keep a notepad handy for now to make small notes into incase i find something intriguing
* zard
is thinking of doing something similar as he tries to figure out WebPositive
<CalistoMathias>
gonna try giving the header file nephele mentioned a read through
<dovsienko>
otherwise you learn something useful, and maybe even remember it for a while, but the next guy still has to reinvent the same wheel again
<CalistoMathias>
righttt that makes sense
<CalistoMathias>
btw apart from all this i had a question about the way the tracker application works
<CalistoMathias>
tho its just a gneeral question
<CalistoMathias>
but why is it that whenever someone tries to open a folder... it opens a new window rather than just routing inside the tracker window itself?
<OscarL>
CalistoMathias: "spatial mode", some *weird* people actually like it that way :-)
<dovsienko>
that's what the old BeOS did, AFAIR
<OscarL>
CalistoMathias: you can change it to Single window mode, from Tracker's settings.
<Al2O3>
can that be set per window, or for Tracker in general.
<zard>
OscarL: haha, agreed :)
<OscarL>
CalistoMathias: from any Tracher window... see the menu item: "Window->Preferences..."
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<Al2O3>
I can see loads of windows, tiled or not being a problem.
<Begasus>
Hola OscarL, for the moment someone else can tackle PR's at haikuports, doing my own thing atm :P
<OscarL>
CalistoMathias: then, under "Windows", check "Single window navigation" (and "Show Navigator" while you're at it)
<OscarL>
Begasus: no problem at all :-) messing with Terminal right now myself :-D
<CalistoMathias>
oh wow this helps a lot xD
<humdinger>
OscarL: you changed Terminal scrolling from SHIFT+cursor to OPT+SHIFT+cursor.
<OscarL>
humdinger: yup. do I need to hide from your wrath?
<humdinger>
OscarL: Q: should SHIFT+Pageup/down be changed to OPT+SHIFT+Pageup/down for consistency?
<zard>
It would probably be nice to make that the default for Tracker, but...
<OscarL>
humdinger: OPT+SHIFT+ up/down only... for left/right... it's now OPT+left/right.
<nephele>
No, It wouldn't :)
* zard
shudders thinking about the huge amount of back and forth that would result
<zard>
nephele: heh :)
<zard>
bbl
<OscarL>
sorry, missed the "scrolling" qualifier on your question, humdinger.
<OscarL>
It would make sense if the defaults actually matched user expectations, and those DO change with time.
<OscarL>
humdinger: will have to get back to you after I test things more. Keyboard handling between Terminal/shell/programs makes my head spin.
<humdinger>
no worries :)
<CalistoMathias>
also where would the definition for BColumnListView be?
<OscarL>
humdinger: thanks for bringing that up, tho!
<nephele>
argh, why does it AGAIN try to build the bios loader >:(
<nephele>
this time i definetely commented out that line 21
<OscarL>
nephele: I commented ALL of them (the ones related to boot loader).
<OscarL>
"local bootTarget ;" and the 3 lines on the loop below.
<CalistoMathias>
oh yah xD idk why i never think to use grep until i get reminded about it
<CalistoMathias>
should note that down and keep reminding myself to use
<nephele>
not sure what the speed of TextSearch is
<CalistoMathias>
it
<OscarL>
nephele: that's what I've heard, why I tried, and why I stoped using it. It does not for me.
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<nephele>
ripgrep packages a "RELEASE-CHECLIST.MD" in the documentation dir .-.
<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: if you remember the sshd-related kernel crash (ticket 17508), it just reproduced on the latest nightly build and I have the kernel debugger open still. would it help to extract any diagnostics from it?
<humdinger>
TextSearch is quite sow.
<humdinger>
SSDs make all tolerable
* OscarL
cries on slow spinnng disks on a VBox VM :-D
* humdinger
watches HDDs spin round and round. round and round...
<CalistoMathias>
cool imma log off for a while ... gotta finish some uni work before I can get back to working on haiku... see ya guys later :D
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<humdinger>
OscarL: what are the chances you implementing text selection with SHIFT+cursor in Terminal?
<OscarL>
TextSearch just uses grep (original name was TrackerGrep)
<humdinger>
truth
<OscarL>
humdinger: that's why I've changed it.
<humdinger>
cool!
<OscarL>
it works now for mcedit and turbo editors.
<humdinger>
I mean when in bash
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<OscarL>
but again, keyboard handling, in VTs... is a nightmage.
<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: hm... maybe open FDs of sshd
<waddlesplash>
not sure what command that is though, never poked around too much in FD tables in KDL
<humdinger>
abracadabra
<OscarL>
humdinger: I'd say... almost zero changes. I wouldn't even know where to start :-D
<humdinger>
aww :)
<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: ohh, there's two WeakPointers in the chain? that is a bit more interesting
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<humdinger>
why doesn my vision nick notification sound work no more?
<humdinger>
working for you?
<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: going AFK for 15 minutes, if you send me the commands to type into the prompt, I will do that upon return
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<L0rdRav3n>
is this the correct place to ask for support?
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<humdinger>
L0rdRav3n: sure
<L0rdRav3n>
its a clean install Ive never had my wifi work, and from what i can tell,
<L0rdRav3n>
Awesome! I just reinstalled my haiku hrev57609
<L0rdRav3n>
the iaxwifi200 should be supported. my syslog says KERN: iawxwifi200: could not load firmware, -2147483639
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<L0rdRav3n>
i'm running an a lenovo L15 intel
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<L0rdRav3n>
ive done pkgman full-sync and rebooted
<humdinger>
that Q goes to waddlesplash...
<waddlesplash>
that error is ETIMEDOUT
<waddlesplash>
this happens randomly on some hardware, I don't know why and I've never reproduced it myself
<waddlesplash>
there are some open tickets about this with idualwifi7260 as well. I suspect the problem is some missing PCI init or something but I have no idea what unfortunately
<L0rdRav3n>
i do have another iaxwifi200 card i can try swapping in. do you think it could be the actual card, or the system
<waddlesplash>
no idea, possibly the system
<waddlesplash>
I think all times it's been tested, things work on other OSes
<waddlesplash>
just not Haiku
<L0rdRav3n>
ok thats why i reloaded hoping it was a bad install.
<waddlesplash>
maybe I can ask around among the BSDs and find out if any of them might know what we are missing...
<L0rdRav3n>
the card works in debian and win10+11
<L0rdRav3n>
i thought i had read that i was fixed last year, but ive still got the issue
<Begasus>
57 packages so far ... :)
<OscarL>
humdinger: got some *possible* leads on text selection (from some rejected patches to Gnome's VTE, no less). No promises thou. I suck at all this :-)
<humdinger>
OscarL: If you touch the Terminal shortcuts again, can you change OPT+cursor left/right for switching tabs to ALT+cursor left/right ?
<humdinger>
OscarL: seeing that ALT+SHIFT+cursor left/right moves the tab.
<humdinger>
would be more consistent
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<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: ok, so, let's see if we can figure out what the address is here
<OscarL>
The fact that I use "Win/Lin mode" ain't helping with my keyboard/shortcut handling induced headaches, humdinger :-)
<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: you need to read a 64bit value from the address in the KDL message, and that value will be a pointer to a net_socket struct. the sockaddr should be at offset 32 from that value
<humdinger>
:) replace my OPT with B_OPTION_KEY and ALT with B_COMMAND_KEY, if that helps.... :)
<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: something like this: "dl 0xffff..." to get the first address, then "dw 0xffff...+32 16"
<waddlesplash>
and then we can see what the address is, because if the endpoint isn't bound it should be zero-length
<OscarL>
humdinger: I think PulkoMandy *did* mentioned CMD+left/right as a possible alternative (and adding them to the menu).
<Begasus>
have to add "cmd:doxygen >= 1.9" for KF6 (requires > 1.8.13)
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<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: it is indeed bridged
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<waddlesplash>
ok
<waddlesplash>
so, something could be trying to connect to port 22
<waddlesplash>
during the shutdown process
<OscarL>
note to self, and to humdinger: cmd.exe + clink (on windows) has *proper* SHFIT+arrows text selection while using readline for the command prompt! (too bad it relies on a lot of custom code :-/)
<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: that's not impossible, although I do not see what or who would be the client
<waddlesplash>
no idea either, which is why I wanted to try and find the sockaddrs
<waddlesplash>
but alas these aren't the right offsets
<waddlesplash>
let's see if I can find better ones
<dovsienko>
even if there was an unexpected incoming connection, it ought not cause such a problem
<waddlesplash>
well, of course
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<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: can you try to test that, I guess? just set up something in a loop trying to make connections as fast as possible
<waddlesplash>
and then shut down
<waddlesplash>
and see if that makes the KDL happen more often
<waddlesplash>
I will check some other stuff from my end
<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: I can try later tonight
<dovsienko>
I tried TCP-forwarding a serial port into another Haiku VM and got messages during the startup, so this can be arranged during the next VM boot
<waddlesplash>
ok
<dovsienko>
the crashed VM will stay in the kdebug prompt for as long as you need
<waddlesplash>
ok, so actually fSocket is not at offset 0, it's at 24
<waddlesplash>
so the first command should have been dl 0xffffffff80c6de00+24
<waddlesplash>
then we do the "dw"
<waddlesplash>
(why does my IDE think it's at 0? it should be using clang for this, why does it think something different than what the compiler says? who knows)
<waddlesplash>
I also have a prospective patch, should the problem readily reproduce
<waddlesplash>
I guess I can try and reproduce it here
<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: I have just quickly tried 10 parallel loops running "ssh <hostname> date" and whilst it was stressing all CPU cores for reasons I do not understand, the crash did not occur in the three boot/shutdown sequences I tried. this was R1/beta4.
<waddlesplash>
hm
<waddlesplash>
well that's very odd then
<waddlesplash>
but I guess this crash can only happen in a very narrow window
<waddlesplash>
or if the network stack deinitializes oddly
<waddlesplash>
I can probably make it happen artificially here
<dovsienko>
looks like 192.168.0.18 to me, which was the address from that my SSH connection was opened
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<waddlesplash>
ok
<waddlesplash>
maybe it tried to reconnect or something, idk
<dovsienko>
I suppose the next step would be to capture tcp/22 until it crashes again, to see how much closed the TCP session looks on the wire
<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: what about the port? can you see what the port is on the machine that opened the SSH connection
<waddlesplash>
i.e. what it is in netstat or something, maybe even a PID if it's still around
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<dovsienko>
by this time my Linux host does not have any TCP sockets in any state ending in 192.168.0.0/16
<waddlesplash>
ok
<dovsienko>
at least today we learned it reproduces on master and it indeed somehow has to do with an SSH client
<waddlesplash>
yeah, it's something
<waddlesplash>
well, I can commit this fix which is definitely correct but it may not solve this problem
<waddlesplash>
I guess I will experiment myself with reproducing
<dovsienko>
so either the socket shutdown isn't clean, or some associated data does not deinitialize properly because of a race condition or something
<waddlesplash>
actually the path I found is in socket spawn
<waddlesplash>
spawn fails partway through -> socket has Bound state but is not in hash -> close() panics like this
<waddlesplash>
solution: properly unset bound state when spawn fails
<dovsienko>
it is not uncommon to have more than one bug and to see that one bug masks or unmasks another
<waddlesplash>
oh, I well know that
<waddlesplash>
"spawn fails partway through" may not be unexpected during shutdown though
<dovsienko>
I must leave for a while, the VM is in kdebug in case you need more hex dumps later
<waddlesplash>
I won't, may as well shut it off
<waddlesplash>
anyway the primary way spawn could fail is if the net stack started deinitializing, and the modules it wants to use somehow are gone before it expected
<OscarL>
for bigtime_t there's even B_PRIiBIGTIME :-)
<nephele>
oh okay. I'm not sure if i needed that for the GetMouseText.cpp fixes
<OscarL>
(I should remember those type-spefic ones more often)
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<nephele>
hmm, is there something more i could make a patch for now :3
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<Calisto>
Btw in general when does a second reviewer review a commit?
<Begasus>
The first time he checks it?
<nephele>
depends on the commit, not every reviewer knows every system component
<nephele>
you can bet that I will skip any commit that touches the posix memory api for example :D
<zard>
Sometimes takes a while, like several days
<nephele>
I'm having reverse vi syndrome. I remember starting with linux and panicking when i couldn't get out of vi
<nephele>
now i'm panicking when git gives me nano and it *doesn't* behave like vi
<Begasus>
you can change that I think? (vi - nano)
<Calisto>
Real xD
<Calisto>
I was having the same issue
<Calisto>
I kept typing esc + :wq in nano that day xD
<Begasus>
87 packages ... still on the frameworks :)
<nephele>
the more you package the more somebody will say "but why is N not packaged?"
<Begasus>
these are just the basics (already got plenty more there) :)
<Begasus>
108 for 5.114.0
<Begasus>
first app I want to check is neochat 24.02.0
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<CalistoMathias>
@nephele so like i was saying before
<CalistoMathias>
I know this is a really stupid fix but I was just trying it regardless ... will spend time reading the exact definitions of everything... but basically in the source file of the DevicesViews.cpp, there is a BTab which contains a PropertiesView .... I just tried Adding that PropertyView directly to the Split Layout Builder
<CalistoMathias>
but this causes a crash in the app
* OscarL
is a total heretic, and is trialing `git config core.editor` set to `tvedit` for HaikuPorts, and `turbo` for Haiku repos.
<zard>
CalistoMathias: I have some suggestions... but, unfortunately, not enough time left to discuss them today
<CalistoMathias>
oh that's quite alright
<CalistoMathias>
if possible then do list them down... otherwise ill be back online tomorrow as well :)
<CalistoMathias>
what time zone are you in?
<zard>
UTC-5
<zard>
One quick suggestion is the Debugger might give you more information about the crash
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay ....
<CalistoMathias>
ive never used it but ill give it a try i guess
<CalistoMathias>
wouldn't hurt to learn how to use it I guess :)
<zard>
The crash report would work nearly as well
<nephele>
CalistoMathias: I already said to investigate the crash?
<CalistoMathias>
yah I was trying to read the file
<CalistoMathias>
i generated the report
<CalistoMathias>
but i have no idea how to read this thing :I
<CalistoMathias>
:( *
<CalistoMathias>
i guess ill try figuring out something :(
<nephele>
well, you can upload it to for example 0x0.st if you want others to look at it
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay that would help a lot
<nephele>
but with no idea what you changed, and only a vague "it crashes" i can't help you
<CalistoMathias>
yah ... but basically in the source code where it renders the fTabView ... i removed that and instead directly tried to add the PropertiesView as a child to split layout builder
<CalistoMathias>
but doing so makes it crash for a reason that I do not understand
<nephele>
the description does not help me, either upload your change somewhere (maybe WIP flagged on gerrit) or send the debug report :)
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay cool ill just upload it give me a minute
<CalistoMathias>
i uploaded the debug report on this link
<CalistoMathias>
if you could understand what is going wrong it would be a great help :)
<nephele>
that's assembly output, so you are not compiling with debug symbols :g
<nephele>
can you put the code on gerrit with the WIP flag? I think that is easier
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay fine
<nephele>
(then i could also download it and try myself)
<CalistoMathias>
so i should just create a commit and push it with an extra flag?
<CalistoMathias>
cool
<CalistoMathias>
just give me a minute
<CalistoMathias>
ill do that
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<CalistoMathias>
heyyy
<CalistoMathias>
sorry i had an internet connection issue
<CalistoMathias>
@nephele nevermind that issue i realised what I was doing wrong
<nephele>
:)
<CalistoMathias>
I fixed the ticket i guess.... the reason for the crash was because i was commenting out the unneeded lines of code...
<CalistoMathias>
but the same variables were being referenced in another section
<CalistoMathias>
but i got it fixed
<CalistoMathias>
:D
<nephele>
Then make a review on gerrit, I'm still awake now to review a bit
<CalistoMathias>
yup ill push it to gerrit
<CalistoMathias>
one sec
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<CalistoMathias>
yup its rebasing
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<CalistoMathias>
counting objects takes so long :(
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<CalistoMathias>
okay it worked
<CalistoMathias>
but it did something weird with my old commit
<CalistoMathias>
is that a problem??
<nephele>
I have no idea what "something weird" means
<nephele>
i dont see your review yet
<CalistoMathias>
idk i did the rebase and the push and it uploaded a patch set 3 on my other commit
<CalistoMathias>
saying that i rebased patch set 2
<CalistoMathias>
i mean it didn't really change the commit or anything
<CalistoMathias>
but it changed the time of the commit
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<CalistoMathias>
i have no idea why... i did the exact process as yesterday.... like how OscarL guided me... i created a new branch on my system made the commit on that branch ... rebased and pushed
<CalistoMathias>
i guess its fine?
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<CalistoMathias>
im really sorry :(
<nephele>
Wow, i was just afk for a bit. No need to apologize!
<nephele>
Don't worry, you didn't do anything wrong :)
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay thank god :D
<CalistoMathias>
so the other commit was supposed to be modified that way?
<nephele>
what happend is basically this: You now have two commits above master which are not yet merged, when pusshing gerrit will consider all local commits you still have with change-ids
<nephele>
so it found both, and since it is rebased, it updated both commits
<nephele>
the review for your old commit was only rebased. That wasn't neccesary but it isn't harmfull either
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<nephele>
if you want to avoid that you have to be on a branch that only has the patches you actually want to push iirc
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<nephele>
or maybe there is some more magic to the git push command i dont know
<CalistoMathias>
i probably need to read a bit more on how that rebase thing works properly
<CalistoMathias>
tho i get the basic idea of it
<CalistoMathias>
but still
<CalistoMathias>
i mean this issue fix didn't need much other than deleting and retyping a few lines of code so :)
<nephele>
that's not really the issue though. Even small changes require work if you are unfamiliar with our tooling :)
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay :)
<CalistoMathias>
btw i didn't really understand the commnet
<nephele>
see above, you panicking over gerrit. (but don't worry, even if you somehow manage to majorly screw up your reviews, nobody will be angry)
<nephele>
what comment?
<CalistoMathias>
you wrote that the whitespacing was an issue? I didn't get what that meant?
<CalistoMathias>
is it in the file?
<CalistoMathias>
like the indentation thing that I made or something like that?
<nephele>
It is an in-line comment based on a specific line number
<nephele>
it points to a change where you removed a single space in the line after a comma ;)
<CalistoMathias>
ohhh
<CalistoMathias>
between the number and the thing
<CalistoMathias>
oh got it
<CalistoMathias>
so i need to edit that space back in and recommit?
<CalistoMathias>
like ammend the commit
<CalistoMathias>
amend*
<CalistoMathias>
okay ill just do that
<CalistoMathias>
also could you just tell me what thing I should be doing exactly to prevent that extra rebasing from happening in the other commit?
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<CalistoMathias>
for now ill just repeat the same thing
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<nephele>
you can remove it from your local checkout
<CalistoMathias>
the previous commit you mean?
<nephele>
for example with "git rebase -i HEAD~3" and then delete the line that picks it
<nephele>
yeah
<nephele>
you can also re-order them with rebase -i
<nephele>
I also commented on the other change for a whitespace issue :)
<nephele>
you could try fixing this one first, ammending. then switching them, fixing the other one. and commiting both
<nephele>
err, not commiting. pushing them :)
<CalistoMathias>
so now there are two comments on the commit?
<nephele>
No. you have two reviews, i commented on the other one aswell
<nephele>
there is an extra tab there
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay in the other review
<CalistoMathias>
got it
<CalistoMathias>
okay ill fix both of them
<CalistoMathias>
i guess i need to give the styleguide a re-read xD
<nephele>
you can configure most editors to highlight trailing whitespace
<nephele>
though Koder is really slow with large files if you do this :(
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<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
i was using the inbuilt Pe editor
<CalistoMathias>
for making changes as of now
<CalistoMathias>
don't know why but the UI was just really comfortable
<CalistoMathias>
:D
<nephele>
that's fine. Use whatever Editor you are compfortable with
<nephele>
anyway, I'll review your fixed versions tommorow. Unless someone beats me to it. You can if you uploaded the new changes use the "Done" function on my comments to indicate that you adressed the critique
<nephele>
have a good night
<CalistoMathias>
thank you so much @nephele
<CalistoMathias>
for all the help :)
<CalistoMathias>
good night
<CalistoMathias>
ill fix the spacing issues
<CalistoMathias>
on both
<nephele>
(why do you keep putting an @ before my name?)
<CalistoMathias>
and recommit
<CalistoMathias>
aaah i should probably stop with that... actually I was using an IRC chat app on my mobile phone which uses @ to search through usernames... and I was on discord before that so like tagging people was done with @
<nephele>
no problem :)
<CalistoMathias>
but i should probably stop that xD
<nephele>
@name on irc usually means "that person has ops"
<CalistoMathias>
btw one last thing before you go
<CalistoMathias>
like if I want to amend a commit with a specific id
<nephele>
you can mention people without @, it will just check if the name appears in the message
<CalistoMathias>
what exactly do I do?
<CalistoMathias>
git commit --amend <id?>
<CalistoMathias>
i thought ill amend both the commits right now
<CalistoMathias>
and push it both at once?
<CalistoMathias>
is that possible too?
<CalistoMathias>
or do I have to do it one by one
<nephele>
git commit --amend will ammend the top commit
<CalistoMathias>
yup
<nephele>
so what you can do: Make the change for the commit that is the current top commit (i.e HEAD), then use git commit --amend to change it
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<CalistoMathias>
yup that's what I did just now
<nephele>
afterwards use git rebase -i HEAD~2 and change the order of the last two commits in the list
<CalistoMathias>
oh so it puts it to the HEAD
<nephele>
then fix the second commit with git commit --amend
<CalistoMathias>
and then i again do the same thing
<CalistoMathias>
and commit
<CalistoMathias>
rightttt
<nephele>
and then push poth
<CalistoMathias>
that makes sense
<CalistoMathias>
oh rip the push both thing :(
<CalistoMathias>
shooot i pushed one
<CalistoMathias>
should I cancel it
<nephele>
:)
<CalistoMathias>
before it goes through completely?
<CalistoMathias>
its just counting the objects as of now anyways
<CalistoMathias>
so ill cancel it and do what you said
<nephele>
Doesn't matter, you can cancel it if you want
<nephele>
or you can continue
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<nephele>
You can also use "git help <command>" to view the help page of git as html, though it sometimes is not that helpfull. but it will list all options and what they are supposed to do
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
wait just a last doub
<CalistoMathias>
i know you need to go but just if you could help with this last bit :)
<CalistoMathias>
so i did the git rebase -i HEAD~2
<CalistoMathias>
it opened up an editor and its my first time using this specific git command....
<CalistoMathias>
what exactly am I supposed to do?
<nephele>
at the top it will say "pick <commit>"
<Begasus>
k, done for today, although not perfect, can now use NeoChat 24.02.0 with KF6 :) https://0x0.st/HRVh.0.png
<CalistoMathias>
yup so i just uncomment that line out?
<nephele>
Reorder those two lines
<nephele>
so the change you want to work on now should be on the bottom of those
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<nephele>
if you delete the line you will remove the commit from your branch
<CalistoMathias>
ohhhh rip no
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<nephele>
If you did that it's not that tragic. Just go back to the review on gerrit that has the commit you wanted to work on, click the Download button and pick the line for "Cherry-pick"
<CalistoMathias>
okay cool thanks for all the help nephele
<Begasus>
closing down here, cu peeps!
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<nephele>
:)
<nephele>
night
<CalistoMathias>
good night :)
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<dovsienko>
.back
<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: so, I am resetting the VM to attach the serial port and to set up a packet capture for future diagnostics
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<coolcoder613_32>
Good morning
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<andreasdr[m]>
Hi there.
* OscarL
extends his formal salutations to Mr. andreasdr[m] and Mr. coolcoder613_32.
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