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<erysdren>
hello HaikuUser
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<coolcoder613>
Hi Skygazer
<Skygazer>
Hiya Erysdren. Sorry, was afk. Hey CoolCoder. I used to live in BeOS as a daily driver for a couple years in the late 90s. Thought I'd revist my past a bit. Went to install Bowser again, but realized I'd installed the 64bit Haiku. Oh well. =)
<Skygazer>
Surprisingly usable running on Apple Silicon on an emulated x86 with only emulated VESA.
* coolcoder613
has a m series mac too! UTM or QEMU?
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<Skygazer>
UTM, which I guess is also QEMU behind the scenes.
<Skygazer>
bbl
<coolcoder613>
It runs at an okay speed, but it is way slower than on real hardware, or on an accelerated VM
<coolcoder613>
rfvb eg7io;0[
<scanty>
cat on keyboard?
<coolcoder613>
vacuum cleaner
<scanty>
ah
<phschafft>
so a fox on the keyboard.
<scanty>
ant eater, perhaps.
<phschafft>
hm.
<Ellenor>
wait what
<Ellenor>
since when did coolcoder613 have a pet fox
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* coolcoder613
is cleaning his laptop with a vacuum cleaner to suck up the dust from the keyboard
<coolcoder613>
the fox belongs to phschafft
<scanty>
can i have the cat?
<phschafft>
don't have a pet fox. more being on the cat side myself.
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<scanty>
me too.
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<phschafft>
but I would say that I prefer the bigger ones.
<scanty>
i like them big, i like them small, i like them all
* phschafft
nods.
<AlienSoldier>
scanty boobs?
<scanty>
lols
<scanty>
pretty sure we were talking about cats, unless i missed something :^)
<phschafft>
at least I was.
<AlienSoldier>
sorry i did not noticed you were talking about pussies :P
<scanty>
lols
<phschafft>
with a tuft.
<erysdren>
hm.
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<coolcoder613>
Hi HaikuUser
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<coolcoder613>
Hello Skygazer
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<Skygazer>
Hey again -- okay, reinstalled 32bit haiku, just to run beos binaries. Tried Bowser, my prev irc client, and it loads and sorta works, but the UI won't allow me to set the nick before it connects. I guess the ui apis aren't 100% beos compatable
* coolcoder613
uses GoBe Productive and Be Basics on Haiku
<coolcoder613>
Also Net+
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<scanty>
what's Be Basics?
<coolcoder613>
Office suite
<scanty>
ah, never heard of it.
<scanty>
i had gobe productive though
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<OscarL>
if possible, try re-building Python on beta4 with updated icu.
<Begasus>
just added
<Begasus>
I have no issues on R1B4
<Begasus>
that's all on the nightly
<OscarL>
if build ends well, try installing that version on nightlies, and see if that works.
<Begasus>
hmm ... could do that
<Begasus>
OscarL, ICU isn't included in python?
<OscarL>
icu is fundamental to Haiku.
<Begasus>
the current installed python there is the one that was/is in R1B4 (that wasn't updated during transition from R1B4 to nightly), as do the other packages ...
<OscarL>
plenty of functions Python uses are implemented on top of ICU, as far as I understand it.
<Begasus>
but how would python build know what icu version to handle?
<OscarL>
right...
<OscarL>
might have been just my wishfull thinking...
<Begasus>
if I rebuild it here, while on R1B4 icu66 is still the default it wouldn't do any good I suppose
<OscarL>
hoping for a simple rebuild :-D
<Begasus>
well, building it on a nightly with a broken haikuporter is hard too ;)
<Begasus>
thought about that ...
<OscarL>
guess I SHOULD have gone to sleep already... not thinking things straight enough, I guess :(
<Begasus>
bet you can't sleep now! :P
<OscarL>
it certainly caught my eye... by the brain isn't collaborating much :-D
<Begasus>
as usual? ;)
<OscarL>
indeed!
<Begasus>
need to get mine in turbo mode now :)
<OscarL>
welp... at least I'm here giving you some moral support! :-D
<Begasus>
maybe I just add a devel dependency in the python recipe (even if it's not used)
<Begasus>
thanks :D
<OscarL>
Maybe I should go to sleep.... Wake up... follow korli's pointers, and get Python working on nightlies (on my still not icu-74 one at least).
<Begasus>
k, let's check this ..
<Begasus>
yeah, stay away from latest update then
<Begasus>
g'night :)
* OscarL
wishes he was better managing his focus :-)
<OscarL>
See you later Begasus
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<Begasus>
good thing NextCloud is still running :)
<Begasus>
k, need to reboot to virtual machines ...
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<Begasus>
spamming then chan :P
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<AlienSoldier>
Begasus was there a snag to compile the latest mame for 32 bit (only saw it for 64bit)?
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] eb2154fd47f2 - acpi_ac & acpi_lid: return early if read position is not zero.
<Begasus_32>
not sure AlienSoldier, haven't checked a build there myself
<Begasus>
did the previous version build ok?
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<AlienSoldier>
i don't remember a 32 bit build at all
<Begasus>
ah :)
<AlienSoldier>
i think it was only xmame or advancemame
<AlienSoldier>
the 64 bit one seem to be the main mame
<Begasus>
that one has been updated by coolcoder613
<AlienSoldier>
that is what i wanted to test, i always have some issue with the others
<AlienSoldier>
and don't get me started on libretro
<Begas_VM>
bugger ... nexcloud is crashing now on nightly too :/
<coolcoder613>
Which one have I updated?
<Begas_VM>
mame?
<coolcoder613>
me?
<Begas_VM>
not? whoops
<Begas_VM>
OK, that didn't work ....
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<Begasus>
back on bare metal, this is way over my head I think :) (looks at kallisti5) :)
<Nephele>
good day
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<Begasus>
Hi there Nephele
<Begasus>
it still is on R1B4 :P
<Begasus>
k, at least clean up some recipes that still use icu66 ...
<Nephele>
we are making good progress on the blockers for beta5, exciting :)
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<Begasus>
yeah, but braking things in the meantime :)
<Nephele>
yeah. This is an unfortunate side effect of there beeing only a single branch haikuports
<Nephele>
otherwise we could easily work towards the nightlies stabilizing packages in a new branch without affecting beta4 at all
<Nephele>
perhaps for beta5 we can try to split this up a bit
<Begasus>
beta4 is not infected as far as I can tell
<Begasus>
everything works still here
<Nephele>
yes, but we need to be extra carefull to ensure beta4 still works
<Begasus>
right
<Nephele>
if it was only the nightlies we could upgrade packages one after the other to icu74 or whatever, not caring that intermediate states don't work
<Begasus>
and inform people not to update nightly untill this is fixed
<Nephele>
people are already informed, it's out testing/unstable branch ;)
<Nephele>
our*
<Begasus>
be prepared for some issues popping up :)
<Begasus>
cool, build system up and running again on 32bit
<zard>
Oh yes, the posts from @Haiku show up fine (I think...), just not the hashtag
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<cocobean>
Begasus: Hi
<Begasus>
need to get a good mastodon clientt zard :)
<Begasus>
hi cocobean
<cocobean>
Check on PR for brotli and dav1d..... let me know if they are good now.
<zard>
Hehe, ah well. Slowly but surely I'll figure things out :)
<Begasus>
still new here too, just using it to promote some Haiku stuff :)
<cocobean>
Ok.. closing down in a bit.
<Begasus>
cu later cocobean
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<Begasus>
k, reports clean again :)
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<andreasdr[m]>
Arrrrrrrr
<andreasdr[m]>
Nephele: I am here now.
<Nephele>
hi :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Whats uppppp?
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi
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<Nephele>
I wanted to ask if you use LLM to write your articles? I saw the one for haikuwebkit's update and was quite confused that it was about twice or three times the length of my forum post and included some factual errors that weren't in the original post
<andreasdr[m]>
??? Sure you dont mean someone else? LLM?`Which article?