<OscarL>
alright, let's give that idualwifi7260 fix a test drive.
<zard>
Hello OscarL :)
* zard
is working on Haiku-PyAPI
<OscarL>
Hola zard :-)
<OscarL>
object ownership still giving problems?
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<zard>
Still working on it :)
<OscarL>
Wish I knew enough to be of help :-/
<OscarL>
can offer moral support, thou!. Go zard, go!
<zard>
lol
<zard>
Probably once I figure out object ownership there will be some more repetative working of getting the code to use it
<zard>
Sometimes, I think there has to be a way that has a little less repetativeness...
<zard>
I've one project so far that might help. Maybe someday I can investigate it...
<OscarL>
Wish I understood how Bethon worked :-/ that seemed to tap right into Python's innards for its magic.
<zard>
Hmm, the one with those cryptic files? Yeah, I don't understand those either :P
<zard>
Horay! One error down
* zard
took a look at Vision for the first time
<zard>
Those :) look a bit squished. Is that why you use :-)?
<OscarL>
I'm old, smileys are 3 chars or bust :-P
<zard>
:-D
<OscarL>
good, good.
<OscarL>
all these xhci "cancel queued transfers: halted endpoint, rest!" sure do give me the creeps.
<OscarL>
s/rest!/reset!/
<zard>
Hmm, some programmers sure are good at making confusing error messages :P
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<OscarL>
might not even be an error, but scares the crap out of innocent /me :-D
<OscarL>
shoot!, I still can't connect using idualwifi7260 :-(
<OscarL>
oh well, was worth a try.
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<zard>
gtg, bye!
<OscarL>
later!
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<OscarL>
"KERN: , <NULL>" <<< that looked like an informative syslog message!
<waddlesplash>
OscarL: just retry a bunch of times, for idualwifi
<waddlesplash>
doesn't always work on first try
<OscarL>
Alright... will keep trying then.
<waddlesplash>
and, that XHCI message shouldn't happen very often, but the real error is probably preceding it
<OscarL>
It worked exactly ONCE for me, and then never again, ha.
<OscarL>
re xhci errors, the first I see is: "usb error xhci 0: ConfigureEndpoint() failed invalid max_burst_payload.
<OscarL>
then: "unable to configure endpoint: Invalid argument".
<OscarL>
Should probably just get a clean syslog and upload it.
<OscarL>
Ok, those "cancel queue" messages, they start AFTER I unmounted and ejected (via /bin/eject) a usb 2.0 pendrive.
<OscarL>
"openbsd wlan_control 9235, 78 (not supported)", same for "16 (not supported)". Other than that... just refuses to connect. Will try to switch card to RTL8188EE, if I can.
<OscarL>
not to sound like and ungrateful bastard: BTW waddlesplash, thanks for all your Haiku work! :-)
<waddlesplash>
ah then theyre expected then after eject I think
<waddlesplash>
and of course you are welcome :)
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<Tekk_>
Hey, is there any way to tell haiku to save which boot volume it wants to boot from? I just did an install and had to manually copy the bootloader into the EFI partition and it worked fine, but I have to scan and select the partition on every boot
<Tekk_>
Is that an efivar somewhere?
<augiedoggie>
did you rename the bootloader to bootx64.efi?
<Tekk_>
I did
<augiedoggie>
and it's inside of a efi/boot directory on the partition?
<Tekk_>
I have it in efi/haiku. efi/boot is taken by OpenBSD
<Tekk_>
Does it care about that particular directory?
<augiedoggie>
most systems will auto-boot the efi/boot one by default, usually you would use a loader like refind to choose between oses
<Tekk_>
Right. I have no problem getting into the haiku bootloader though
<Tekk_>
I adjusted the efi boot vars to add the entry for it
<Tekk_>
the bootloader just isn't auto-choosing the Haiku partition. It makes me select the boot volume on every boot
<augiedoggie>
yeah, i don't use the boot selection in the efi on mine, i let refind handle it
<augiedoggie>
hm
<augiedoggie>
is this beta4 or a nightly build?
<Tekk_>
This is on nightly
<Tekk_>
Also, really impressed with the nightly. Everything on my laptop is just working out of the box :)
<augiedoggie>
is haiku on the same disk as the efi partition?
<Tekk_>
Mhm.
<augiedoggie>
:/
<augiedoggie>
dunno
<Tekk_>
It's certainly not the end of the world. The only thing that *might* be a hint...
<Tekk_>
In the bootloader when it scans it detects the Haiku partition twice, it looks like?
<augiedoggie>
the only thing i could think is that the guid of the haiku partition is wrong, but i doubt that's it
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<Tekk_>
If it were then it couldn't find the partition at all I think
<Tekk_>
and certainly not mount it
<augiedoggie>
i seem to recall a scenario where it did
<Tekk_>
Does haiku have a tool for viewing/managing the EFI entries and vars?
<augiedoggie>
no
<Tekk_>
Hm
<Tekk_>
Might have to poke more next time i'm in Linux
<OscarL>
coolcoder613_: he's on France, so... take his timezone into account.
<augiedoggie>
most of the open tickets i see about the efi loader and boot volumes suggest it's a uuid problem, but i agree it's weird that it would still boot when you choose it
<Tekk_>
My guess is that it's storing the uuid *somewhere*
<Tekk_>
but that's wrong
<Tekk_>
So it's not seeing what it's looking for but it finds it on the scan
<OscarL>
about that "In the bootloader when it scans it detects the Haiku partition twice"... do you still have the USB install media plugged?
<OscarL>
that could cause you to see two "Haiku" partitions.
<OscarL>
(seen that on my machines at least, and why It would be cool if the boot loader marked them differently :-D)
<augiedoggie>
rename your disk :P
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<OscarL>
heh. I do. but... on first install... can't trip you :-)
<augiedoggie>
maybe the partition on the anyboot images should be HaikuLive or something
<OscarL>
augiedoggie: yup! using HaikuLive for that sounds like an easy and good solution.
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<OscarL>
proper one would be mentioning the underlying "/dev/disk/..." next to partition's names if their labels are exact matches, but... a simple rename would cover the most common case.
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<OscarL>
Calisto: reapeating myself from earlier... Congrats on landing your TWO first patches! :-)
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<zdykstra>
Evening, OscarL!
<OscarL>
hello zdykstra!
<OscarL>
all well on your end? (I hope so :-D)
<zdykstra>
Yeah. In the middle of a career decision, but I guess there are worse things in life.
<zdykstra>
And you?
<OscarL>
there surely are :-( (like wife getting mad for you stealing her coffee)... in any case... my best wishes for you!
<OscarL>
zdykstra: I got to buy an eat a piece of yummy cheese today, so... can't really complain :-)
<zdykstra>
Nice! What kind?
<zdykstra>
It might be a bit rare where you are, but have you ever had fried bread cheese?
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<OscarL>
haven't tried it no, but I do love cheese and bread, so... doubt I wouldn't like it being fried :-P
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<OscarL>
I got around 600g of "Sardo"... I don't usually like it, but the one I got today was REALLY good (and more importantly... affordable! :-D)
<zdykstra>
The description sounds good!
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<zdykstra>
I assume it's the Argentine variety, not the Italian?
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<OscarL>
No idea, really. Problem here, and why I usually avoid "Sardo", its because they call "Sardo" almost anything, heh.
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<OscarL>
I assume I got the proper one this time, given how good it was (for its type).
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<OscarL>
pretty much the one on Wikipedia, so I guess that yea... the Argentine one.
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<Calisto>
Heyyy OscarL :D
<Calisto>
The two fixes were merged :D
<OscarL>
'lo Calisto. Indeed, tried to congratulate you twice already earlier on :-D
<Calisto>
On mail PulkoMandy told me that it would be good if I got a decent hold on the query system as well... Was planning to give the darkwyrm doc a read through today
<Calisto>
Ohhhh okay I must have not seen it xD
<Calisto>
Was in uni
<Calisto>
But thank uu :)
<OscarL>
one more won't hurt, so...: Congrats on landing your first TWO patches! :-)
<Calisto>
thank you so much :) You helped a lottt with it
<Calisto>
So as of now he recommended me to stick with the layoutAPI and read through other applications' code which use the layoutAPI but also look into the query system
<Calisto>
Probably need to take a refresher on my regex xD
<OscarL>
not sure what type of work you intend to do related to queries...
<OscarL>
but if it just the UI aspects of them... no need for much more than "*" on test searches, I guess :-)
<augiedoggie>
query expressions are different from regular expressions
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 8476614 - kconfig: disable build tests for now (fail for x86 arch)
<Calisto>
Begasus, OscarL, nephele, PulkoMandy... I was thinking that maybe I should start drafting my GSoC proposal soon right? Considering there is approximately 2.5 weeks till the applications open up.. and I would really love it if you guys could help me draft it and add to it as I go along with it... Simultaneously I could also read through docs and try to fix more LayoutAPI Issues :)
<Calisto>
Does that sound good or is it too early for that?
<Calisto>
Also where can I find more layoutAPI bugs in general?
<Calisto>
For now I'm trying to read the src code of deskcalc
<Begasus>
Calisto, I'm not mentoring GSoC, so can't help much there I think :) But finishing up in time for the proposel sounds like a good plan
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
hii Begasus @_oftc_Begasus:matrix.org
<Begasus>
strange, kconfig 5.115.0 didn't error here on 32bit
<Begasus>
no developer here but did you declare that int PriyanshuGupta[m]?
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
sorry i didn't get it?
<Calisto>
Oh so Begasus is there someone on the IRC channel who can like go through it once in a while for my proposal or should I send a request for it through mail?
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes a03743f - ki18n: bump version
<PulkoMandy>
Calisto: You can start working on your proposal, it's neâer too early. As the application period approaches we will get more and more students who wait for the last minute and we will be even more busy trying to review things :(
<PulkoMandy>
You can share a draft (google docs or similar), share it on the mailing list ideally or on the forum. On irc it risks being lost (too many people talking here, I don't read everything...)
<PulkoMandy>
For ui mockups, there is no dedicated tools. The existing ones in the ticket are made from cut and paste of existing apps screenshots I think. But there are other tools for this to express just the rough idea of how a window should look like
<PulkoMandy>
Even use pen and paper and take pictures if that works best for you
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<PulkoMandy>
PriyanshuGupta[m]: I think it will be easier to help you if you send your unfinished change to Gerrit. Then we can look at it completely instead of through just a few screenshots
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes e3367da - solid: bump version
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
PulkoMandy: i have done that job but somehow during the testing with the xfs tool it got a build failure i had mentioned that problem in the mailing list. Can u please take a look there
<Calisto>
I just want to introduce a few small changes to the project idea mockup which was there on the ticket
<Calisto>
And I'll start writing the proposal by the end of the day so that I can get it properly reviewed in time
<Calisto>
Tho im kind of confused how to approach the problem but I'll simultaneously start slowly reading through the source code of the tracker query window itself
<Calisto>
Maybe that will help?
<Calisto>
Or should I focus on some other apps as well?... I went through the darkwyrm docs on queries, BNode, and BNodeInfo
<Calisto>
So for now I'll just start making the proposal with what I have learnt and everything
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<Tekk_>
Alright, so to answer the question from last night: I wasn't able to find anything in the efibootvars that looked like it was haiku saving the guid of the boot partition
<Tekk_>
So it's stored somewhere else I guess
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<PulkoMandy>
We don't store anything, we use a partition type uuid that is hardcoded, and information from the efi firmware to identify the boot disk (where the bootloader was started from) to find partitions on the same disk
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] kallisti5 cdea10b - golang: Bump 1.4 version
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<BrunoSpr>
hello all
<Begasus>
re
<Begasus>
Hi BrunoSpr
<Begasus>
augiedoggie, any way I could try to triger the error on pcre2?
<nosycat>
Hi there!
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<Begasus>
hi nosycat
<augiedoggie>
probably but i don't know what would do it
<BrunoSpr>
hi Begasus, hi nosycat, hi augiedoggie
<Begasus>
So far launching/create database/add entry doesn't produce an error herre :/
<augiedoggie>
it crashes immediately for me, no main window or anything
<Begasus>
closing/opening again ... no issues (32bit R1B4)
<Begasus>
even launching it from Terminal to see if something pops up
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<Begasus>
if disabling the 10.4* packages help you and 3DEyes then that should be done, for me I don't have an issue atm
<augiedoggie>
it *feels* like this is probably related to the koder and libreoffice problem but i haven't investigated
<Begasus>
k, LO crashes here also, not sure how they are related though
<augiedoggie>
only because it's a really strange error to appear just because of a new pcre2 version
<augiedoggie>
and our new gcc seems a bit wonky, especially with things like stack unwinding
<Begasus>
k, let me install the 10.39 one ...
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<Begasus>
LO crashes with that one too
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<augiedoggie>
i'm feeling a bit crappy today, if i get motivated i'll rebuild the older one and see if it has a problem
<augiedoggie>
it might not like being compiled by the newer gcc regardless of which pcre2 version
<Begasus>
np
<Begasus>
QMPlay2 still ok with both versions (10.39 rebuild earlier here), as is KeePassXC
<Begasus>
can only check :)
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<L0rdRav3n>
Just incase anyone is wondering, swapping from the iaxwifi200 to a idualwifi7260 in the same system presents the same results it shows the nic as having a mac of 00:00:00:00:00:00 and no wireless networks are found
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* OscarL
wishes he could have a single haikuports clone for both 32 and 64 bits (couldn't haikuporter use separate "repository" and "work-*" dirs for each platform?)
<OscarL>
or that it is actually possible, and I'm just using it wrong?
<OscarL>
just centralizing the "download" dirs would be of much help.
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<augiedoggie>
i suppose you could create a download symlink in every port dir back to some central location :P
<OscarL>
augiedoggie: I may actually attempt that, yes :-)
<OscarL>
had to nuke haikuports/repository :-/ updating dependencies is so slow :-) (wonder if storing even plain .DependencyInfo files in sqlite woudln't make things faster)
<OscarL>
anything that reduces the friction of switching between 32 and 64 .recipe work environments would make testing ALL things on 32 bits less of a chore :-/
<augiedoggie>
hm
<augiedoggie>
there is an interesting option in the haikuporter source
<OscarL>
Here.. trying to test previous on 64 bits (after I fixed the recipe for 32 bits).
<augiedoggie>
doesn't seem like that option has any effect when i try it
<Begasus>
You could check the libpcre2 issue reported by 3DEyes on 32bit ;)
<OscarL>
augiedoggie: perhaps it is used in "buildmaster" mode? (I'm assuming that's a thing :-D)
<augiedoggie>
could be
<OscarL>
I see an "'/input-source-packages/'" that looks "suspicious" :-P
<OscarL>
(Repository.py#L243)
<OscarL>
and surrounding code area.
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<OscarL>
alright, now "previous" .recipe is good on both 32 and 64 bits.
<Begasus>
I know there is this riscv file that get's overwritten (or the likes) with a line that fetches packages from localhost during build
<Begasus>
in */haiku/build/jam/repositories/HaikuPorts
<Begasus>
but that's at building Haiku ;)
<OscarL>
Begasus: what should I try on 32 bits? KeePassXC with latests libpcr2?
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<Begasus>
any Qt5 app I guess :)
<OscarL>
crap, I have a BUNCH of updates pending :-/
<Begasus>
you got all night to figure that out ;)
<OscarL>
probably leave it updating and go out for groceries :-)
<Begasus>
heh, pick up some peeps while you're at it :D
<OscarL>
mmm Noto font update, and I forgot to add "&& shutdown -r" :-(
* OscarL
"googles" peeps
<OscarL>
heh, I *think* I only saw plain marshmallows ONCE down here.
<OscarL>
sounds like I should stick to some local snacks instead.
<OscarL>
Like that *wonderfully named* chips brand: "Kraps!" :-D
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<Begasus>
so far:
<Begasus>
71 changed files
<Begasus>
with
<Begasus>
6148 additions
<Begasus>
and
<Begasus>
14 deletions
<Begasus>
whoops :P
<Begasus>
stats on KF6 packages :)
<Tekk_>
augiedoggie: Figured it out in the forums. When the installer formatted the partition as befs it didn't update the gpt partition type to be Be
<Begasus>
nice, crash on closing down NeoChat gone to? ;)
<OscarL>
DriveSetup should refuse to format partitions with the wrong type, no?
<Tekk_>
Apparently not!
<Tekk_>
It also refuses to fix the partition type, but that might just be a nightly bug
<OscarL>
or does it alert()s, but lets you do it anyway?
<Tekk_>
Maybe related to why it didn't fix the partition type when it formatted.
<Tekk_>
Nope, just did it totally blind
<Begasus>
closing down for today, cu peeps!
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<Tekk_>
I didn't even notice the partition was flagged as Linux Data since i'd created it as unformatted in the partitioning tool
<OscarL>
later Begasus!
<OscarL>
Tekk_: I was about to ask you if you "reused" a partition you already had, or used DriveSetup to create it before formatting it...
<Tekk_>
I went and created blanked out partitions since I needed to be in Linux to resize an LVm anyway c:
<Tekk_>
Definitely something for me to be aware of when I put 9front on here too
<OscarL>
my usual go to "solution", re-create Haiku Partition with DriveSetup. Others say that you can change the type from GParted or Disks.
<Tekk_>
Neither of those will
<Tekk_>
But gdisk will set the partition type to Haiku for you
<Tekk_>
The others refuse to flag as partition types they don't personally understand
<OscarL>
I see. thus my "nuke it and start over" stance :-P
<augiedoggie>
yeah, i suspected a uuid problem
<Tekk_>
I mean, I'd already generated ssh keys, gotten nextcloud setup, etc.
<Tekk_>
That was like, a whole hour of work setting things back up I saved by 3 hours of debugging!
<augiedoggie>
`hp --test libpcre2_x86` crashes constantly with 10.43
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<OscarL>
Tekk_: yeah. can be a pain :-( Wonders of an alternative hobbie OS in beta stage, I guess? :-)
<Tekk_>
Eh, the nightlies are pretty smooth. I've been playing with haiku since.....
<Tekk_>
2011? Probably in the best state that it's ever been right now.
<Tekk_>
I'm not gonna hold it being confused at my trying to save time with a little hack against it.
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<OscarL>
my system update is taking forever. /me goes out for food instead of waiting here.
<OscarL>
later folks!
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<HaikuUser>
why won't anyone port qustodio to haiku?
<Tekk_>
Well I've never heard of it, for one thing c:
<augiedoggie>
doesn't even run on linux
<Tekk_>
So you're telling me it's a killer app we can flaunt in Linux's face
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<augiedoggie>
heh
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<Tekk_>
stupid question I probably missed in settings somewhere: is there an option for focus-follows-mouse?
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<augiedoggie>
yes
<augiedoggie>
i don't remember where it's hiding since i don't use that :P
<Tekk_>
Ah, silly me
<augiedoggie>
Preferences->Input->Mouse
<Tekk_>
It's in Deskbar Preferences :)
<augiedoggie>
that's just for the Deskbar
<Tekk_>
Thanks augiedoggie
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<Tekk_>
Don't see this documented anywhere: where does git look for its ssh keys?
<Tekk_>
I have a key in ~/config/settings/ssh but it's prompting me for a password when I try an ssh clone
<Tekk_>
Even with an ssh agent running
<augiedoggie>
that should be the right place
<Tekk_>
Hmm
<augiedoggie>
does `ssh-add -l` show the key loaded?
<Tekk_>
Yep
<Tekk_>
....wait
<Tekk_>
I'm dumb, don't mind me
* coolcoder613_32
waves
<Tekk_>
Hi coolcoder613_32
<Tekk_>
I forgot that I generated a new key on this install instead of copying my keys :)
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<coolcoder613_32>
Hey mmu_man
<coolcoder613_32>
I was trying to get your cocoa NetSurf frontend compiled
<coolcoder613_32>
After a lot of work, i managed to get it compiled on my m1 mac with sonoma, but it won't run, it just very quickly uses up lots and lots of memory
<coolcoder613_32>
like ~24GB in ~30 seconds
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