AlwaysLivid changed the topic of #haiku to: Open-source operating system that specifically targets personal computing. | https://haiku-os.org | Nightlies: https://download.haiku-os.org | Bugtracker: https://dev.haiku-os.org | SCM: https://git.haiku-os.org/ | Logs: https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/haiku | Matrix: #haiku:matrix.org | XMPP: #haiku%irc.oftc.net@irc.jabberfr.org
macdude22 has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
<HaikuUser> any way to trigger an OS update on one partition from another partition?
HaikuUser is now known as AlienSoldier
<iisi> AlienSoldier: What I do is install to another partition or device, boot it, update it, and if something broke, boot the previous partition/device.
<jessicah> AlienSoldier: you can do pkgman install /path/to/packages/*.hpkg
<jessicah> if you want to update the current install from the other partition
<jessicah> iisi: you do know the bootloader can boot a previous install, right?
<jessicah> err, previous package state
vdamewood has joined #haiku
<AlienSoldier> jessicah in my case it no longer can, something happened in an update and caused a problem with packagefs, any previous syaye now KDL, i think some files got deleted by the update. The revision is ok that said, i made an install with it and it boot fine.
<jessicah> you can delete the packages/administrative/activated-packages file
<jessicah> sometimes that might boot, if the activated packages state has gotten in a weird state
<AlienSoldier> i did that
<jessicah> if that still doesn't work, then just copy the packages from working install into the packages folder, and remove the old ones
<jessicah> and then it should boot; if it still doesn't, then it's probably FS corruption, or broken settings somewhere
<AlienSoldier> did that too, but it was not from the same OS revision, perhaps that is why
<mmu_man> ohhhkay I just got my new machine
<mmu_man> I suppose I'll spend 2 month installing it properly now
<mmu_man> then maybe I'll be able to code correctly :)
<jessicah> revision doesn't matter too much, just make sure the main packages are all the same version
<mmu_man> without Firefox eating up all RAM
<jessicah> mmu_man: haha, nice
<jessicah> yeah, on windows, even with 32gig ram, running WSL at the same time, wasn't enough... sadly
<jessicah> unfortunately 2x32gig sodimm chips is like nz$500-600 :(
<AlienSoldier> and then there is the 128B atari 2600 game that continue to play if you remove the cartrige :)
<AlienSoldier> and not 128KB, 12bB
<AlienSoldier> *128B
<mmu_man> … oh right X512 is not on IRC
<mmu_man> jessicah: initially I wanted a T15 but I was told there were quite a lot of returns on this model gen1
<mmu_man> so I got a W541
<AlienSoldier> my download dir to backup have 29778 file, that will eventually be fun to organize :)
<nolesswrong> Hello, I have a bare metal install on a ssd also I have rsync backup of this ssd on a partition in another drive in the same computer. is it possible to boot from this backup with UEFI?
<jessicah> mmu_man: is that a second hand laptop?
vdamewood has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
<mmu_man> jessicah: yes, but it's like 1 or 2y old
<jessicah> nolesswrong: should be, press space bar to select boot volume
<mmu_man> still had the transparent sticker on the lid
<jessicah> nolesswrong: is it bfs formatted?
<mmu_man> so probably less
<mmu_man> so, I think hrev55212 leads to the screen being blanked on each workspace switch
<jessicah> intel 4th gen is pretty old
<mmu_man> yeah indeed, TDP is quite high
<mmu_man> but the laptop was still produced last year
<nolesswrong> jessicah yes it is, but it's in the bootloader I only have on volume "Haiku", so I thought maybe I missed something.
<nolesswrong> how does the uefi bootloader determine is a partition is a haiku install?
<jessicah> nolesswrong: it adds all devices, then generic code looks for a bootable system
<jessicah> which is basically looking for the package files
<jessicah> and that it's bfs
<jessicah> mmu_man: it might be worth changing to check to (status == B_OK && ...->GetDPMSMode() != B_DPMS_ON)
<jessicah> something to check with X512
<nolesswrong> thanks, I'm not on haiku right now so I will test it later.the bakcup partition is named "HaikuBackup" so it should appear like that on the bootloader, right?
<jessicah> yes
<jessicah> depending on version of the bootloader installed, may need to update it
<jessicah> hrev55221 will be the most compatible uefi loader for finding all installs
<mmu_man> jessicah: well possibly GetDPMSMode wouldn't work at first?
<mmu_man> I don't see why he didn't do that in Screen::Initialize
<jessicah> yeah, doesn't seem like VirtualScreen is the right place
AlwaysLivid has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
AlwaysLivid has joined #haiku
<jessicah> well, it's worth getting X512 to try it out anyway
<jessicah> but yeah, if there's a different place more suitable, that's another thing to try
<mmu_man> yeah I'm commenting on gerrit
<jessicah> like anything, gotta test all these little changes :)
<jessicah> just because it works doesn't mean it's correct :p
<iisi> jessicah: installing to another disk instead of relying on prior package state has the side-effect that I have a functional backup that I normally wouldn't remember to do.
freakazoid333 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
freakazoid333 has joined #haiku
macdude22 has joined #haiku
<iisi> And good thing, too, because once recently a timestamp got written over some critical filesystem information (still no idea how, but saw it in DiskProbe).
<mmu_man> - works for me!
<mmu_man> è
macdude22 has quit []
<mmu_man> - ok, we'll ship your machine to the customer
<iisi> heh
<jessicah> haha
macdude22 has joined #haiku
macdude22 has quit []
vdamewood has joined #haiku
<AlienSoldier> where are the email setting located (in case you don't want to reconfigure email account all over again in new install)?
TMM has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
TMM has joined #haiku
<AlienSoldier> found it
macdude22 has joined #haiku
macdude22 has quit []
dcatt has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
AlienSoldier has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
mmu_man has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
boistordu_old has joined #haiku
boistordu has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
dr_evil has joined #haiku
dr_evil_ has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
nhtello has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
AlaskanEmily has joined #haiku
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JcH3X
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] JadedCtrl 1d66014 - libpurple, include pixmaps (#6049)
rodolphoeck has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
Begasus_32 has joined #haiku
Begasus has joined #haiku
<Begasus> g'morning peeps
AlaskanEmily has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<jessicah> morning Begasus :)
<Begasus> evening jessicah :)
<jeremyf[m]> Morning all
<jessicah> I finished my Terminal patch today for ANSI colour schemes
<jessicah> will need to come up with a modified theme for the default black on white one, so that there is better contrast
<jessicah> and maybe improve the others as well
<jessicah> Solarized Dark looks so much better
<Forza> Hej. Good morning. 🙏
jt15s[m] has joined #haiku
<jt15s[m]> Hello all!
<Begasus> hi Forza jt15s[m]
<Begasus> nice jessicah
odnes has joined #haiku
* Forza have a c(_) coffee ☕
mchasard has joined #haiku
rodolphoeck has joined #haiku
mchasard has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
rodolphoeck has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Forza has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
euandreh has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
euandreh has joined #haiku
Diver has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
tuaris has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Forza has joined #haiku
odnes has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
nolesswrong has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
nolesswrong has joined #haiku
Diver has joined #haiku
mmu_man has joined #haiku
HaikuUser has joined #haiku
HaikuUser has quit []
Maturion has joined #haiku
odnes has joined #haiku
<Begasus> check latest openexr (libjxl doesn't seem to play nice with the current one)
countryboy has joined #haiku
<countryboy> hello
<countryboy> love youuu !!! xD
<Begasus> hi countryboy
<countryboy> hi Begasus
ClaudioM has joined #haiku
lorglas has joined #haiku
<countryboy> i pray for a free computer technology !!!
freakazoid333 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
freakazoid333 has joined #haiku
<countryboy> i pray for a free world !!!
<countryboy> help : add printer : brother : pcl5 ...
<countryboy> print test page => paper setup => undefined ...
HaikuUser has joined #haiku
<HaikuUser> hi
HaikuUser has quit []
lorglas has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
<Begasus> problem ... jpegxl in haikuporter is in a git state, it needs to download some submodules but can't seem to do so?
<Begasus> if I do this outside of haikuports tree it works fine (after extracting the source in a wip directory) ...
odnes has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
<Begasus> bbl
mmu_man has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
<nielx[m]> Begasus: HaikuPorter does not like git submodules
odnes has joined #haiku
mmu_man has joined #haiku
countryboy has quit [Quit: countryboy]
bbjimmy has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
odnes has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
bbjimmy has joined #haiku
tqh has joined #haiku
<Begasus> Need to do some backwards steps I think nielx[m] , it worked before ...
euandreh has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<jeremyf[m]> Is someone working on HDA driver?
euandreh has joined #haiku
<nielx[m]> Begasus: my experience is from more than a year ago, when I started with Rust.
<Begasus> ah, well maybe I should just add source_uri_* for them then ...
<Begasus> This is the file that should pull the submodules: https://github.com/libjxl/libjxl/blob/main/deps.sh
<Begasus> bbl
tuaris has joined #haiku
tqh has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Diver has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
Diver has joined #haiku
HaikuUser has joined #haiku
HaikuUser has quit []
zmoment has joined #haiku
<zmoment> hi, my installation doesn't seem to be resolving hostnames. What file can I edit to set the nameserver? Or other way to do it?
<nephele[x]> system/settings/etc/resolv.conf or so?
<Diver> isn't it possible to set hostname in Network preflet? I don't remember tbh
<zmoment> thanks
Diver has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
TMM has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
TMM has joined #haiku
countryboy has joined #haiku
<countryboy> hi
gouchi has joined #haiku
deavmi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
deavmi has joined #haiku
deavmi has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
DKnoto has joined #haiku
deavmi has joined #haiku
freakazoid333 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
countryboy has left #haiku [#haiku]
leont has joined #haiku
<leont> Continuing my work on the perl port again
<leont> I'm seeing a test fail where removing a message queue gives a Bad Address error, and I'm baffled by this. Anyone have a clue.
netpositive has quit [Quit: leaving]
<Begasus> heading down here, g'night peeps
Begasus has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg]
ClaudioM has quit [Quit: leaving]
<nolesswrong> jessicah thanks for fixing the bootloader.
<jessicah> nolesswrong: no worries :) I'm extremely familiar with that code ;-)
HaikuUser has joined #haiku
HaikuUser has quit []
bbjimmy1 has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
bbjimmy1 has joined #haiku
bbjimmy_64 has joined #haiku
bbjimmy has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
B2IA has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
B2IA has joined #haiku
Guest237 has joined #haiku
Guest237 has left #haiku [#haiku]
mbrumbelow[m] has joined #haiku
<mbrumbelow[m]> <jessicah "nolesswrong: no worries :) I'm e"> My NUC's EFI now boots to Haiku correctly. Another thanks.
<zmoment> Is there any software to record from an usb uvc web cam? I searched the forums and it seems there's a droidcam app, but can't find it in haikudepot.
B2IA has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
tsukasa has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<zmoment> well the webcam is not recognized...
B2IA has joined #haiku
vezhlys has joined #haiku
tsukasa has joined #haiku
Maturion has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
gouchi has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
HaikuUser has joined #haiku
bitigchi has joined #haiku
HaikuUser has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
DKnoto has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
bitigchi has quit [Quit: leaving]
DKnoto has joined #haiku
jadedctrl_ has joined #haiku
macdude22 has joined #haiku
jadedctrl has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
dcatt has joined #haiku
AlwaysLivid has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
nhtello has joined #haiku
freakazoid333 has joined #haiku
dcatt has quit [Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!]
freakazoid333 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
freakazoid333 has joined #haiku