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<beaglejoe>
Hi all, gerrit question: should I rebase before updating a patch set ?
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<jessicah>
rebasing is fine
<jessicah>
iirc
<jessicah>
beaglejoe: nice find with that bug :)
<beaglejoe>
jessicah: thx, your fix is better though.
<jessicah>
I know the loader code a bit too well :p
<jessicah>
even if I've been away for 2 years
<beaglejoe>
glad you are back. Haiku is an iteresting project.
<jessicah>
it definitely is, it's been fun to get back into it
<beaglejoe>
I'm new to gerrit. I have 3881 which is more or less obsolete. Should I Abandon it or is that for admins?
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<jessicah>
beaglejoe: I'm not familiar with gerrit either, but yes, probably doesn't make sense to continue on with 3881
<jessicah>
maybe if you wanted to have a different partition set as default, but in that case, I would use partition UUIDs and update the UEFI boot variables
<beaglejoe>
Kind of temporary, partition names are easier for user editing, until we have runtime services and a user app
<jessicah>
given most boot issues should be fixed now, I think it's better to put the effort into doing it properly
<jessicah>
it should be pretty straightforward to do it via the boot loader
<beaglejoe>
Agreed. I just had a new drive and wanted multiple Haiku installs. So I went down the rabbithole. lol
<beaglejoe>
I could never hit <SpaceBar> fast enough.
<jessicah>
haha
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<beaglejoe>
night time for me.
<jessicah>
night :)
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
<netpositive>
morning
<Begasus>
morning netpositive
<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/JcAj4
<Begasus>
that one for instance, the one I had yesterday worked, today I needed to change it because haikuporter reported another checksum value?
<Begasus>
hmmm ... maybe I should run a checkfs? (we had a power failure in our area yesterday which caused the laptops to power off)
<nephele[x]>
they shouldn't begasus, normally, that's why we have the checksums :)
<Begasus>
first time I encounter this nephele[x] srcGitRev_2 hasn't changed
<nephele[x]>
i'd mv the file away, let it download a fresh copy, and see if that fixes it
<Begasus>
the build for libjxl should be fine, but with this I can't push it to haikuports
<Begasus>
already done it a few times nephele[x]
<nephele[x]>
Okay, that sounds strange, could also be you worked on the recipe and an old intermitent version got saved to disk?
<Begasus>
shouldn't be the case with a srcGitRev checkout I guess?
<nephele[x]>
I mean the recipe file itself might be an older or corrupted version
<Begasus>
it's a complete new recipe I've been working on
<Begasus>
as I couldn't get haikuporter to pull the submodules I added them as new source_uri's
<Begasus>
so*
<nephele[x]>
git submodule basically is just pointers to commits for directories, so that should work fine if you extract it correctly :)
<nephele[x]>
... but that sounds like you are making yourself extra work that should be done in haikuporter
<Begasus>
I mentioned that yesterday here, haikuporter seems to have issues with pulling submodules, nielx[m] had/has some issues there too I gathered
<nephele[x]>
other option would be the first download you got was corrupted :D
<Begasus>
it didn''t look that way, I cp the files over from the $sourceDir* and that worked fine (still does)
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<Begasus>
hi jmairboeck
<Begasus>
anythin new on texlive front?
<jmairboeck>
Hi Begasus
<jmairboeck>
not really, I have not done anything on it
<Begasus>
k :)
<jmairboeck>
If anyone has some ideas how to improve it, so that it can eventually be merged, I'm open for that :)
<Begasus>
I don't think anyone is eager to try a build there :)
<Begasus>
2 things I see that could be changed (quick look), revert the commiter for the patch back to jessicah and disable the build by marking ?x86_64 and ?x86
<Begasus>
we don't want the build to end up in haikudepot yet :)
<jmairboeck>
I have succeeded building lilypond though in a working state, including the documentation (but outside haikuporter for now). That depends on some TeX tools for building though, so it can't really be added either
<jmairboeck>
ok, I can do that probably
<jmairboeck>
for the commit in the patchset: should i amend the commit and change the author? That's probably the best way to do that.
<Begasus>
yeah, should be the easiest, you can make the 2 changes in 1 commit amend then
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<PulkoMandy>
beaglejoe, hi, yes, please abandon changes that are not needed anymore, it helps getting the backlog shorter
<PulkoMandy>
Begasus, there is no official guarantee from github about the source archives. A few years ago they changed the code they use to generate the archives and suddenly all archives got different checksums
<Begasus>
anyway to bypass that PulkoMandy ?
<PulkoMandy>
ideally we would use more reliable sources, but often people don't store their code anywhere else than github
<PulkoMandy>
if possible, download the sources from a release at github rather than some arbitrary commit
<PulkoMandy>
otherwise, we need to make a mirror of the sources somewhere, I guess
<Begasus>
1 of the 3 has sources at googlesource with the same issue
<Begasus>
those projects don't include a release :(
<PulkoMandy>
also why do we need another png decoder? what is wrong with libpng?
<Begasus>
it's jpeg (issue created at haikuports by scott)
<PulkoMandy>
lodepng is definitely a png decoder
<PulkoMandy>
so that raises even more questions, why do a jpeg decoder need a png decoder now? what are people doing with software these days?
<Begasus>
lodepng is a dependency for libjxl yes
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<nephele[x]>
no wonder modern OS are so bloated with so many tools doing almost the same .-.
<Begasus>
don't blame the messenger :)
<Begasus>
on the prior not, there's "SKIP" that works for CHECKSUM_SHA256 :)
<Begasus>
note*
<PulkoMandy>
skipping checksums sounds like a bad idea. Then anyone can replace the archive and inject whatever malicious code they want into it
<nephele[x]>
pulkomandy: the upper image of your latest forum post does not load for me
<PulkoMandy>
well, you get the idea from the second one :)
<PulkoMandy>
it's mainly the same thing but black-on-white
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<countryboy>
hi
<countryboy>
simply hello :-)
<jessicah>
Begasus: what's this about texlive?
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<jessicah>
do I need to look into it again?
<Begasus>
no, jmairboeck updated the recipe,but forgot to keep the credits to you in the patchset :)
<jessicah>
ah
<jessicah>
that was a lot of work to lose my credit!
<Begasus>
hence the question to keep it in :)
<jmairboeck>
sorry jessicah, but I'm currently working on fixing that
<jmairboeck>
2 of the patches needed some changes
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<jessicah>
git rebase -i and git commit --amend are your friends ;-)
<jmairboeck>
yes, I know :)
<jmairboeck>
but haikuporter has some problems extracting the patchset. It tries to do that for all sources, so I'll probably need some git reset on the other ones first
<Begasus>
jmairboeck, you shouldn't need to rebuild I think (unless you made other changes)?
<jmairboeck>
I need to re-extract the patchset from the amended commits
<jmairboeck>
i.e. hp -e
<Begasus>
I mosly edit by hand (patchset/recipe) ... git add * ... git commit --amend ... git push ...
<Begasus>
(in case of minor changes like credits or enable/disable arch's)
<jmairboeck>
I didn't want to edit the patchset by hand, I'm not sure if the git hashes stay the same if I do that
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<PulkoMandy>
probably not
<Begasus>
so far I haven't seen any problems with those here
<Begasus>
did it also for the openexr patchset, first extract it and then put korli's credits in the file by hand
<jmairboeck>
why do I still get the old patchset after editing the history of the source git repo? do I need to delete something else from the work directory?
<Begasus>
not familiar there :)
<Begasus>
jmairboeck, maybe you could also add the ttf fonts in that PR? not familiar with the fontconfig files though, so no idea there
<Begasus>
if so they should end up in settings/fonts/conf.d (given a prefix higher then 60 as mentioned there)?
<jmairboeck>
Begasus: these are the same fonts in 3 different formats, OTF, TTF and PostScript Type1, do we really need the same fonts twice?
<Begasus>
not sure, don't have any other fonts installed atm jmairboeck :)
<Begasus>
well, if all you need are the otf fonts it will be ok I guess :)
<jmairboeck>
Lilypond only needs the otf fonts at least
<jmairboeck>
optionally, so it can also be built without them
<jmairboeck>
but I think they don't hurt
<Begasus>
so far I see only fontconfig itself using the path, so I think it would be safe to leave the fontconfig files out
<jmairboeck>
I think fontconfig is not used by haiku's app_server, is it? I suppose this is more of a Linux/X11 thing
<Begasus>
don't know, at least it contains 18 files in there (here)
<Begasus>
hmm those symlink to $dataDir/fontconfig/conf.avail
<jessicah>
we don't use the fontconfig paths
<jessicah>
jmairboeck: not sure, you can always do git format-patch to make a backup of the patchset
<jessicah>
so you don't accidentally lose your changes
<jmairboeck>
jessicah: the problem is, haikuporter -e somehow always restores the old patchset. But I have done that exactly now, so maybe I'll just replace the generated patchset with my manually extracted one
<jessicah>
I wrote a guide a long time ago on doing patches with haikuporter, no idea if it still applies
<jessicah>
should be able to just cat them together into .patchset
<PulkoMandy>
if you're on a 32bit system and building a gcc8 recipe, extract-patchset creates the new patchset with the _x86 suffix for some reason
<PulkoMandy>
and so it doesn't end up being used in the next builds
<PulkoMandy>
probably should be fixed...
<jeremyf[m]>
Hello!
<jmairboeck>
PulkoMandy: I am on 64 bit, that is not the problem. I suppose it has something to do with the patch function commit and tag, at least it does its rebase stuff, even if I have dropped the commit with the first rebase myself
<PulkoMandy>
ah, yes, I've run into strange things with the patch function too
<PulkoMandy>
I think it sets a tag to remember where it applied the patch, and if you do rebases and the like, it can get a bit confused because the tag isn't at the right place anymore
<jmairboeck>
texlive is one of these strange recipes that use both :)
<jmairboeck>
with git log, the commit with the tag on it is no longer visible, but I think the tag is still there, somewhere on a detached tree or something, so the rebase that extractPatchset is doing restores the old tree somehow
<jessicah>
probably looking at the tree the tag belongs to
<jmairboeck>
yes, exactly
<PulkoMandy>
you can use tig --all to see it
<PulkoMandy>
or git tag -l or something like that to just list the tags?
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<jmairboeck>
I'll try again, but deleting the tag explicitly first
<jessicah>
you could add the tag to your new base
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<jeremyf[m]>
Someone read me?
<jessicah>
yep
<jeremyf[m]>
Ah ok, thanks
<jmairboeck>
now it looks correct, deleting the PATCH_FUNCTION tag did the trick
<jeremyf[m]>
Since no one seemed to answer me, I thougt there was a problem
<jessicah>
you're a ghost :p
<jeremyf[m]>
Maybe
<jeremyf[m]>
I can tell I feel like one: I want to help but I have no skill and time to do something
<nephele[x]>
Skill is aquired through helping, sadly, time is not ;)
<jeremyf[m]>
I passed too much time to do linux distros hopping...
<jeremyf[m]>
PulkoMandy: Did you see my question? I want your opinion before placing any bug/suggestion ticket
<PulkoMandy>
I think there already is a ticket about it
<PulkoMandy>
the main problem is that WebKitLegacy doesn't really have a distinction between tabs and windows
<PulkoMandy>
we probably need to migrate to WebKit2 before we can solve this correctly
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<jeremyf[m]>
Ok thanks
<jessicah>
solve what?
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<jeremyf[m]>
"Open in a new window" that in fact open in a tab
<jessicah>
ah
<nephele[x]>
I'd disable that menu option for now, wondering why that button couldn't call back to webpositive to make it open a new instance instead though? granted i don't know much about webpositive code
<shaka444[m]>
Hi all. Anybody know the status of btrfs in Haiku? I'm looking for a good cross platform fs
<nephele[x]>
currently, fat32 is the best option i think
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<PulkoMandy>
nephele[x], that option is a standard menu from webkit and I see no reason to maintain a custom patch just to disable it. And in WebKitLegacy, as I said there is no distinction between this and other things that open a new tab (middle click on a link for example)
<PulkoMandy>
so it's either everything opens in new tabs, or everything opens in new windows
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<PulkoMandy>
I think this is because currently WebKitLegacy is kept alive mainly for some old iOS stuff, and on iOS, there never was a separate notion of windows and tabs in the first place
<PulkoMandy>
and I don't think it's worth adding that distinction there, let's try to move on to WebKit2 to solve these things instead :)
<jessicah>
hmm, does haiku support toslink (s/pdif) outputs yet?
<jessicah>
might have to give native boot a try on my desktop nuc
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<nephele[x]>
I know that with oss my spdif output goes glowing red on my laptop, but i doubt it works :D
<nephele[x]>
PulkoMandy: well, i'd rather it just be one option for open in new tab then having two options that do the same thing and confuse people
<nephele[x]>
If you want to focus on wk2, that's fine anyhow :)
<nephele[x]>
would be nice to get some other consumers for haikuwebkit with that aswell :3
<shaka444[m]>
<nephele[x] "currently, fat32 is the best opt"> thanks [nephele[x]](https://matrix.to/#/@_oftc_nephele[x]:matrix.org) but I'm alergic to anything micro$oft ;-)
<countryboy>
vfat ...
<countryboy>
... linux one ...
<nephele[x]>
shaka444? half your message is garbled
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<countryboy>
countryboy[xyz]
<countryboy>
also polar[radius theta gamma]
<shaka444[m]>
hmm maybe its nheko... just said I don't like microsoft
<nephele[x]>
"<nephele[x] "currently, fat32 is the best opt"> thanks [nephele[x]](https://matrix.to/#/@_oftc_nephele[x]:matrix.org) but I'm alergic to anything micro$oft ;-)"
<shaka444[m]>
weird
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<countryboy>
we can build and ask for an iso international standard organization file system ...
<countryboy>
and ask for it to be free software ...
<countryboy>
also for cd and dvd filesystems
<nephele[x]>
iso9660?
<countryboy>
fine
<countryboy>
9660 ? could be an update of the name ?
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<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/JcpIh
<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] pulkomandy 231d7fb - Monthly activity report for june
<PulkoMandy>
ISO standards are not free :(
<PulkoMandy>
but fortunately there is an equivalent of ISO9660 standardised by ECMA
<PulkoMandy>
however, they also have a standard for UFS, I think that would make more sense to use if you want a standardized filesystem
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<PulkoMandy>
sorry, I mean UDF (Universal Disk Format)
<PulkoMandy>
no, we have a reasonably complete implementation of ext2/3/4 already
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<jeremyf[m]>
Oh okay
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<PulkoMandy>
our main problem with it is it has arbitrary limiations on the size of extended attributes, so some Haiku files can't be stored correctly on it
<PulkoMandy>
when compiling haiku from Linux we have special handling for this, with an extra indirection level to store our attributes in separate files
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<jeremyf[m]>
Et XFS est au four grâce au GSoC?
<PulkoMandy>
yes (also we have a #haiku-fr channel if you want to join there, but I'm not sure how it's bridged on Matrix)
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<jessicah>
oh, is that what all the [m]'s mean?
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<PulkoMandy>
yes, it's the default for peope using a Matrix bridge (apparently Matrix likes to do some subtle advertising about how many people use their service?)
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<jeremyf[m]>
My english have some limits, and I know you are french, so... Je fais au plus simple 😅
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<nephele[x]>
matrix also does some funky nick replacements for it's users, one could call that a injection attack, maybe, or one could say it is a feature ;)
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<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±16] https://git.io/Jcply
<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] hrnf c6d0b49 - Upgrade to Bootstrap 4 and align some elements (#530)
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<js>
<PulkoMandy "yes (also we have a #haiku-fr ch"> #_oftc_#haiku-fr:matrix.org
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<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+7/-6/±0] https://git.io/Jchv4
<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] panos 9eb68ec - Moved Google Code-In Reports to News (#509)
<Vidrep_64>
WebPositive isn't working so well on Google maps. Just a blank page. Before, it would load and eventually crash after running out of ports.
<Vidrep_64>
Should I comment this new behaviour in one of the existing tickets or create a new ticket?
<nephele[x]>
If there is a ticket specific to google maps use that, otherwise make a new one please
<Vidrep_64>
Maybe I'll wait until the HaikuWebKit 1.8.2 fix is released, since it might be a related issue
<nephele[x]>
1.8.2 has only border drawing fixes staged until now
<Vidrep_64>
Border drawing and blank text or icons
<nephele[x]>
No, just border drawing?
<nephele[x]>
pulkomandy is working on an app_server freeze fix, jessicah and i am working on the text issue a bit, but neither of those two is ready or commited yet
<nephele[x]>
not that i have had much luck with the text issue :P
<PulkoMandy>
no real idea about the app_server freeze yet either (but it's another case of running out of ports so... it could have fixed google maps if it still had that bug)
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<iisi>
Regarding disappearing text in WebPositive... {reads ticket 17066} nope, possibly different issue.
<iisi>
For me, some font rendering settings cause missing text. It appears and disappears as I change them.
* iisi
checks which ones...
<iisi>
Bluh, now I cannae remember a page that demonstrated this. Think it was a haiku-os.org page. Maybe only monospaced text was affected.
* iisi
keeps looking
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<iisi>
Ok, not quite what I saw before (text appearing/disappearing when I change antialiasing grey/LCD), but almost: on a Trak page with monospace, I have to cause a window-paint for it to happen.