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<mattlacey> So far no luck getting serial output of my main PC - not sure the BIOS cares about the PCIe serial card and as such Haiku's bootloader isn't pumping anything out. System still just reboots the moment it tries to start up with zero output other than the icons appearing for a split second
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<geist> PCI based serial cards tend to use nonstandard IO ports and whatnot (auto assigned by the PCI bus)
<geist> so it may be that the bios/bootloader/etc is expecting 'standard' IO ports for it
<mattlacey> ah ok - wonder if I can find a way to change those through a config program or something
<mattlacey> doubt it
<jessicah> are you booting with UEFI?
<jessicah> and what chipset?
<mattlacey> B450 (AMD)
<mattlacey> and yeah, UEFI
<jessicah> serial card chipset
<mattlacey> I can get to the boot options, but no matter what I choose it won't boot - just reboots instantly - no onscreen debug output
<mattlacey> oh soz - https://www.startech.com/en-us/cards-adapters/pex1s553lp <-- bought one of these as my mobo doesn't have a serial header
<jessicah> has instructions for serial with uefi
<mattlacey> ah nice, maybe I should check out rEFInd - bit wary of screwing up my windows boot, I've been out of the loop on GPT etc. in general and still don't feel as comfortable as I did back int he MBR days :)
<mattlacey> MBR & GPT
<jessicah> I use refind on my macbook air fine
<jessicah> with windows + haiku + ubuntu
<mattlacey> I'll have a play around tonight after work
<mattlacey> I'm not anticipating any output given the onscreen stuff doesn't even appear
<jessicah> quite possibly
<mattlacey> I used to be able to boot nightlies but not sure when it actually broke
<jessicah> I remember there was a big refactor of EFI some time ago
<mattlacey> yeah I feel like I saw an email or source update on the site or something - I never get to pay enough attention
<jessicah> I would go back to something like hrev51998, and see if that boots
<jessicah> and then work forward from there
<jessicah> will probably help in picking revisions to test
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<jessicah> 53904 might be another good one to try as well
<mattlacey> ah nice one
<mattlacey> sounds like a good plan of action
<jessicah> these are when I was still working on EFI, so probably before some of the bigger refactors
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<augiedoggie> i should probably update the haiku efi loader on my pc, mine is from shortly after beta 2 was released
<augiedoggie> it works on my ryzen with a b350 though, probably best not to touch if it if ain't broke
<mattlacey> hmm, maybe I should try just swapping out the loader for an older one, see if that helps
<jessicah> I've got older ones here I could upload somewhere
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<jessicah> can give those a try
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<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to haiku-inc-risc-v-hardware [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/JclAz
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood ada711f - Add news item about the Haiku, Inc sponsorship of RISC-V hardware
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/JclAb
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood 5062a1b - Add news item about the Haiku, Inc sponsorship of RISC-V hardware (#527)
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood deleted branch haiku-inc-risc-v-hardware
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<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JclhN
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood 9247b2f - Fix page that was breaking the build
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/Jc8ed
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] leavengood b18e2e6 - Switch to HTML for the alert for the repo news item
<mattlacey> jessicah were those two older versions of the loader? my net keeps crapping out and I didn't notice that IRC didn't reconnect!
<jessicah> yes, very old, will be around 2 years
<mattlacey> cool
<jessicah> ugh, now I can't boot into my haiku install, bootloader doesn't see it... weird
<mattlacey> that happened to me recently - prior to all this "not being able to boot" stuff - I had an installed version but the USB bootloader wouldn't see it
<jessicah> ohh, it was the package state file... gah
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<mattlacey> what is the package state file? I've seen something in the bootloader log right at the end about that
<jessicah> it lists all the activated packages
<mattlacey> is that something the bootloader even looks at? I thought that would have been way later on in boot
<jessicah> it must do
<jessicah> package management does exist in the boot loader
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<Begasus_32> g'morning peeps
<jessicah> you can load previous states in the bootloader, for example
<jessicah> hey begasus
<jessicah> I guess if the activated packages file lists packages which aren't in the packages directory, it excludes that install
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<Begasus_32> hi jessicah, long time no speek ;)
<Begasus_32> k, R1B3 installed :)
<_Dario_> hopefully, I will test the B3 images on the weekend
<_Dario_> still on nightly here
<jessicah> hi Begasus_32, indeed a very long time!
<jessicah> thought I'd see if my airbook hardware was better supported, but seems no change :-/
<Begasus_32> bugger
<Begasus_32> so far it's looking alright here, only wished the laptop was more stable :)
<Begasus_32> on another thing, texlive has seen new light jessicah, we're on par now :)
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<jessicah> on par?
<Begasus> at the latest release
<Begasus> got it build on 32bit and 64bit
<jessicah> ah nice
<jessicah> I'm glad to not be working on that :p
<jessicah> The build times were ridiculous
<Begasus> yeah, takes a "bit" of patiance :P
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<Begasus> k, back to fpc
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<Not-5835> [haiku/website] nielx pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/Jc8sE
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] jt15s 8f2fb8e - Upgrade Bootstrap to 3.4.1 (#524)
<Begasus> if I use "export FPCDIR=$PATH" fpcmake works, so the install dir I'm using atm doesn't seem right for the fpc_source package :)
<Begasus> thanks fedora for that pointer :P
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<yukitoki> Hello, I have an interesting error with the EFI loader. I get "Could not locate any supported boot devices!" but if I have an usb drive with a Fedora installer on it, haiku boots.I'm 100% sure that the usb dosnt have any haiku files.
<yukitoki> how can dump the bootloader logs to a file?
<Diver> jessicah: should probably know
<jessicah> maybe a couple years ago
<jessicah> I haven't touched uefi since
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<yukitoki> I dont know if the docs already say this somewhere or if this is a bug but the script build_haiku_image fails if there is a space in the path where haiku source is.
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<Begasus_32> [x86] /Opslag/wip/lazarus> qmake -query QT_INSTALL_LIB
<Begasus_32> **Unknown**
<Begasus_32> [x86] /Opslag/wip/lazarus> qmake-x86 -query QT_INSTALL_LIB
<Begasus_32> **Unknown**
<Begasus> bug in qmake?
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/Jc4u0
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 55176dc - fpc_bin, change recipe, enable x86_64 (#6029)
<Begasus> k, first step ...
<Begasus> requires {
<Begasus> haiku >= r1~beta3_hrev55181_8-1
<Begasus> first time I see it in action ;)
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/Jc4Kr
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 736439f - fpc, bump version (#6033)
<Begasus> step 2 ... now the real work :)
<Begasus> looks like the ide is working (although no idea how to use it) :P
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<countryboy> there are haiku girls ? ... answer : no !!! ... dangerous !!!
<countryboy> xD
<countryboy> danger ... run ...
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<Begasus> creating package fpc-3.2.2-1-x86_64.hpkg ...
<Begasus> almost there :)
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<countryboy> xD
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/Jc4dr
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus abd6cce - fpc_source, new recipe (#6034)
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<Begasus> strange, Screenshot doesn't grab the active window anymore, known issue (it worked just before)?
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<countryboy> Begasus: how to install fpc in haiku ?
<Begasus> pkgman install fpc
<countryboy> ok ...
<Begasus> depends on what architecture you're on too
<Begasus> 32bit?
<countryboy> 64
<Begasus> ok, then that should be ok
<countryboy> thank you Begasus
<Begasus> I didn't do the groundwork ;)
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<Begasus> builds completed :D
<Begasus> hi lorglas
<Begasus> lorglas, fpc ready to be checked out on 64bit too now :)
<lorglas> hi Begasus, that is good
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JcBUU
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] lorglas 569a7cb - bump revision, typing error in yab_ide (#6035)
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JcBUZ
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] lorglas 9546704 - bump revision, yab docu typing error (#6036)
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<countryboy> hi Begasus
<countryboy> testing fp ...
<countryboy> but problem : if you move mouse inside terminal
<countryboy> running ide with fp ... fp only ...
<Begasus> the ide?
<countryboy> start a row of 256 random chars
<countryboy> Begasus: try only fp
<Begasus> yeah, could be an issue, saw some misbehaviour also here, but I guess most people will want to run it from cli (fpc)
<Begasus> already did
<countryboy> i suggest : fpc => the compiler
<countryboy> fp-ide => the ide ... ;-)
<countryboy> fp-gui-ide => lazarus
<Begasus> haven't managed to build lazarus so far here
<countryboy> Begasus: np
<countryboy> Begasus: take it easy ...
<Begasus> ;)
<countryboy> ;-)
<AlwaysLivid> ;D
<Begasus> AlwaysLivid, maybe you could tackle lazarus :P
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<lorglas> good bye
<Begasus> cu
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<Begasus32> Warning: POLICY WARNING: can't find used library "libperl.so"
<Begasus> this is an internal lib from libpurple, so no need to add it to the requirements (there is none)
<Begasus> building works if -S is not used with haikuporter
<tib> Begasus32 this while installing what package? yab? fpc?
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<Begasus> libpurple
<Begasus> I think with vala I had the same problem, had to turn of the "-S" switch in the profile to make it finish the build
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<orealis> haikuna matata
<Begasus> filosofy? ;)
<Begasus> bbl
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-3/±0] https://git.io/JcRik
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b9ad890 - libpurple, bump version (#6027)
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<Begasus> k, enough for today, fpc done, libpurple done, cardie checked and builds ok with libpurple ...
<Begasus> time for some football ;)
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<HaikuUser> good day
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<roiredXX> just testing R1b3
<roiredXX> wow!!!
<roiredXX> youtube works
<roiredXX> :''')
<cocobean> Bumped to R1B3 (+23) and refreshed haikuwebkit 1.8.1 build. R1B3 (+23) seems fine for now with Intel extreme driver for IronLake graphics.
<roiredXX> just need to check on BM this weekend
<roiredXX> hi there cocobean
<cocobean> hi
<cocobean> haikuwebkit 1.8.1 (now with (C)Glyphs patch added)
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<nephele[x]> haikuwebkit 1.8.1 has not been tagged yet? :)
<nephele[x]> roiredxx: funnily enough that was a haiku bug, not webkit ;)
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<roiredX> good day
<nephele[x]> hello
<roiredX> hi there nephele[x]
<nephele[x]> hello, me!
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<roiredX> nah.. missed KDL
<roiredX> XD
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<Begasus> g'night peeps
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<Vidrep_64> kallisti5, is there any way to update from Beta 2 to Beta 3 test image using SoftwareUpdater?
<nephele[x]> changing the repo i think
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<jessicah> yeah, just change the repo address, should work... I updated a 2 year old haiku to latest nightly without issues :)
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