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<AlienSoldier> is it me or VLC take long time to appear after being launched?
<AlienSoldier> and by that i mean recently. It launched fast before
<AlienSoldier> will see if rebooting make that better
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<AlienSoldier> seem it only take long time to launch with QuickLaunch
<AlienSoldier> weird
<AlienSoldier> start right away from tracker
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<bbjimmy> beaglejoe thanks
<bbjimmy> software close, not close the tray.
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<nephele[x]> Good morning, random thought. Would anyone care if multi-monitor worked like workspaces does now? which means that every window is always on one display and one display only
<nephele[x]> I thought a bit about the other case that is common with windows beeing on two displays and think this doesn't really make sense for Haiku, for one our windows are usually small, don't need more than one screen per window.
<nephele[x]> This would also I think make it a bit easier to implement. add to that that the overlapping windows look pretty ugly on every implementation I've seen... DPI, color calibration, trying to render text at the right resolution. hell, even mainline ubuntu was still drawing window decorations partially onto the wrong screen with fullscreened windows last time i checked
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<AlwaysLivid> We should rewrite Haiku entirely in Rust.
<AlwaysLivid> jk good morning everyone
<PulkoMandy> If you want to do Rust, join Redox OS 🙂
<nephele[x]> alwayslivid: there is already a ticket for that
<AlwaysLivid> nephele[x], there is?
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<jessicah> eep, broke Koder
<jessicah> that didn't take long
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<jessicah> ohh, it must be running into the can't handle big files well problem
<jt15s[m]> I was thinking since Haiku's window titlebars look like tabs, maybe someone could try making a version of Windows Sets for Haiku?
<jt15s[m]> Would be pretty cool as well, since Sets was a radical change to the desktop
<nephele[x]> Looks like window tabs without color depth?
<julicenri> Windows Sets just looks like Redmond's take on window grouping.
<jt15s[m]> I guess, but you have to admit, the idea of having a desktop environment resembling the UI of a browser is pretty radical
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<jt15s[m]> When you consider the fact that we spend a lot of time in a web browser it makes sense though
<nephele[x]> not really, we already have that
<nephele[x]> just open netsurf
<nephele[x]> jt15s: huh, you say "look like tabs", but they are actually tabs you know? :g
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<jt15s[m]> Anyways, anyone have any ideas for things we can do for Haiku's 20th anniversary?
<nephele[x]> (In case you didn't know anyhow, otherwise ignore this: https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/gui.html#stack-tile )
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<jt15s[m]> I had no idea that existed haha
<jt15s[m]> Well, looks like we figured out the whole Windows Sets thing before Microsoft even thought of it 🤣
<nephele[x]> Then today is your lucky day :P
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<Coldfirex> nepele: thats hilarious
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<jt15s[m]> How is everyone going?
<jt15s[m]> Have we all managed to upgrade to Beta3?
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<countryboy> hello, simply hello ;-)
<countryboy> thanks for existing ... ;-)
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<countryboy> congratulations on beta3 to everybuddy ...
<countryboy> :-)
<countryboy> and .. no bugs ... thanks
<countryboy> ;-)
<countryboy> ops : thank you becouse there are no bugs ...
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<countryboy> wild fire ...
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<Not-5835> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JBZIX
<Not-5835> [haiku/website] diversys f1527f7 - Fix TrueNetwork mirror links
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JBZug
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] lorglas 9bd4f8f - yab_ide: Change of linebreak in the the IDE (#6103)
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JBclt
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] wattoc 18a5cda - OpenBLAS: Explicitly remove AVX512 from build as not supported yet (#6105)
<nephele[x]> coldfirex: ?
<Coldfirex> yes
<nephele[x]> >nepele: thats hilarious
<nephele[x]> What did you mean?
<Coldfirex> oh, the rrir link
<nephele[x]> ah :D
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<nephele[x]> Could someone with a thinkpad check if they can reproduce this? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17117
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<Anarchos> Is it possible to resize a BeFS partition ?
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<nephele[x]> Anarchos: Yes, it is possible, but no you can't currently. There is a patchset on gerrit that pulkomandy is rebasing sometimes, but nobody has tested or reviewed it yet...
<Anarchos> nephele[x] ok, then i will copy from partition to a new partition. thanks for the info
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<HaikuUser2> what the hell happened to freenode? SASL is mandatory now? I just spent 1 hour trying to connect from znc, vision, bitchx, irssii, webchat
<HaikuUser2> I hope they realize they just effectively destroyed their network with this
<nephele[x]> They already destroyed their network
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* humdinger waves
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<nephele[x]> hi humdinger
<BrunoSpr> Freenode destroyed itself
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<BrunoSpr> Haiku uses now OFTC
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<nephele[x]> Oh, a haiku review on youtube "8 minutes ago" :D
<nephele[x]> "view count: keine aufrufe" lol; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_A7NqTWfcU
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<nephele[x]> Added to the inTheNews :)
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] korli created branch r1beta2 https://git.io/JBWf1
<Not-5835> [haikuports] korli created branch r1beta2 - https://git.io/vFAzP
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<Vidrep_64> tqh, what would be the best way to provide this list of drivers and apps? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14205#comment:15
<Vidrep_64> Both "not-shutting-down" systems are Core 2
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<tqh> list the drivers and apps you run before shutdown. Then shutdown. Try to reduce number of apps and driver and shutdown.
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<tqh> I am a bit tired of working on shutdown issues myself. As any shutdown problem was always suggested to be ACPI so I have looked and worked on it for so many different things.
<tqh> A bit interesting if it is cpu related. It would be nice to have logs on shutdown progress.
<tqh> Before shutdown you can also disable second cpu and see if it shutdowns correctly.
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<tqh> Older ACPI required shutdown to happen on first CPU. Unfortunatly turning of other cpu's while shutdown causes issues for everyone.
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<Vidrep_64> I'll see if i can hook up that PC tomorrow and try some of your suggestions
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