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<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
hi
<Begasus>
hi NorthwoodsNEKO[m]
<Begasus>
jadedctrl, alive? :)
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
i got a quick question, I tried downloading VLC but it complains about not having beta3, I'm on R1 Beta2, is there a way I can install an older version of VLC?
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
i got the same error with a few other applications on HaikuDepot
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<Begasus>
same thing here NorthwoodsNEKO[m] :(
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<Begasus>
maybe you can grab a prior one at the depot?
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<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
looked for prior vers of vlc and vim on depot
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
got 404 for the hpkgs of old versions
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<Begasus>
can't find a link also
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<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JWdKs
<nephele[x]>
this is unfortunately a side effect of our builders now running pre-release beta3 :/
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<Begasus>
would be nice if there is a way explained on how to bump R1B2 to the new RC nephele[x]
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<nephele[x]>
Begasus: there
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<nephele[x]>
I replied to your forum question
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<cocobean>
@kallisti5: 'JIT Worklist Helper Thread' seems to retrigger the web page text to reapper in Web+. Works consistently if the text disappears without user interaction within 30-32 secs.
<nephele[x]>
cocobean: I can't reproduce that at all
<nephele[x]>
I never get this thread on my website
<nephele[x]>
Which is likely since that thread seems to refer to ecmascript execution of which i have none on my website
<cocobean>
If you text disappears... wait about 40 secs without interaction... see if it reappears.
<nephele[x]>
No, it does not
<cocobean>
Does mouse scrolling or web page reload work?
<nephele[x]>
It might be helpfull if you mention what page you are testing cocobean
<nephele[x]>
If i resize it quickly to a wider margain text disapears and stays gone
<nephele[x]>
Yes, reloading works, but that is effectively a new site, and resizing works too which in this case was what caused the issue, so the question remains why resizing in the first place causes this :)
<nephele[x]>
on discuss (haiku) i can reproduce that some text reapears after some time, but not all of it, this is probably related to something discuss does in javascript
<cocobean>
If that happens, mouse scroll a bit and it should all reappear without much effort.
<cocobean>
Your site worked fine. I'll try a few reloads.
<nephele[x]>
My site is too small to scroll :P
<nephele[x]>
no, reloading won't work, try resizing it quickly wider with the mouse
<cocobean>
OK.
<cocobean>
Got it.
<cocobean>
JIT trick didn;t refresh the text. But I mouse scrolled one click and it reappeared instantly.
<cocobean>
Hmm
<nephele[x]>
Yes, there is no jecmascript on my site, thus no JIT helper thread
<nephele[x]>
I think the only bug there is that the text disapears, or is not asked to be rendered, on a resize
<cocobean>
Hmmm... weird multibuffering
<cocobean>
I've seen it before.
<cocobean>
HIghlight and you'll see you text.
<nephele[x]>
I don't think that is buffering
<nephele[x]>
webkit will just redraw text in two chunks if you highlight it
<nephele[x]>
it usually splits text into lines or paragraphs to ask for it to be rendered, and if you highlight text it will split it up further and ask for those parts to be rendered again
<cocobean>
Is it the text cached and copied to screen before rendering or something else?
<cocobean>
Ah
<nephele[x]>
You can add printf call to haikuwebkit/Source/WebCore/platform/graphics/haiku/FontHaiku.cpp to see when it asks to draw next text runs
<nephele[x]>
I am not too sure when webkit cches stuff
<cocobean>
Yes... the GlyphBuffer stuff
<cocobean>
OK... consult the Webkit devs! ;)
<nephele[x]>
To ask them where a bug is in our port? :P
<Begasus>
thanks nephele[x] !
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<Begasus_32>
reboot ....
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<Begasus_32>
and back :)
<Begasus>
scrolling the forum seems to be ok on 32bit
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<Begasus>
nephele[x], the link you posted earlier is ok here also (resizing window + resizing with the scroll-mouse)
<cocobean>
nephele: Can you get the readings of the screep spi and font size during text calls to app_server?
<cocobean>
screen dpi/window scaling/etc
<nephele[x]>
begasus: it only happens when doing that rapidly
<nephele[x]>
cocobean: do we even support reporting dpi or scale to webkit? not sure, but you can probably get that info
<Begasus>
nope, not here
<Begasus>
32bit in VirtualBox seems ok
<nephele[x]>
32bit and the forums appear fine, yes?
<Begasus>
yep
<nephele[x]>
okay, so maybe arch specific after all
<Begasus>
at least I don't see any issues
<Begasus>
bumping native 64bit and will check there too
<cocobean>
Begasus: zero text disappearances?
<Begasus>
yep, all renders fine here
<Begasus>
mind you, just updated from R1B2
<nephele[x]>
does webpositive say haikuwebkit 1.8.1?
<Begasus>
1.8.2
<Begasus>
webkit 612.1.21
<cocobean>
We do have some latency on 64-bit.... got me wondering about this again...
<Begasus>
scrolling through the post for flat decorator (as that is a long thread already) so far only 1 small glitch but it was about a second or two
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<nephele[x]>
what latency?
<nephele[x]>
begasus: okay, that's good, enjoy the bug free qwebpositive then :PP
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<Begasus>
on 64bit text disapears
<nephele[x]>
9H to download gcc2 beta3...
<nephele[x]>
begasus: pulkomandy said he also doesn't have the bug, so yes probabyl specific to 64bit then
<Begasus>
yeah, noticed on the updates pulling in earlier, slow network
<Begasus>
seems to go in that direction nephele[x]
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<Begasus>
even images don'tshow up complete sometimes
<nephele[x]>
my network here is just slow
<Diver>
updating my 32bit install in vbox to check that
<nephele[x]>
kallisti5: since you complained abotu my dark mode patch before, what do you think of this? it's the directory template for file view for dark mode
<jadedctrl>
yea, i don't think it's possible, unless i'm going about it the wrong way
<jadedctrl>
spamming `readelf -d` on installed binaries makes it seem the case at least
<Begasus>
not much on haikuarchives so far
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<jadedctrl>
hm, i'm not finding anything either
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<Begasus>
jadedctrl, maybe stupid idea, but linking it again libpurple wouldn't work?
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<Begasus>
against*
<Begasus>
Diver, did you get a chance to check 32bit?
<Diver>
yes I did and it works there
<Begasus>
ok, another confirmation then :)
<jadedctrl>
Begasus: i don't think so? not even sure how i could about it to change anything
<jadedctrl>
*go about
<Begasus>
well you "can" link against it, but I can't check if that really works jadedctrl :)
<Begasus>
Don't have a jabber account (anymore I think ...) :)
<jadedctrl>
relinking wouldn't change the path used to get the lib at runtime `o`
<Begasus>
PS, prefs window could do with some work, the OK button doesn't fully show, and the window isn't resizable
<Begasus>
yeah, figured that one, but maybe purple should support the jabber protocol?
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<jadedctrl>
yea, alot of the layouts scale poorly (controls offscreen too)
<jadedctrl>
i've gotta get that this month
<Begasus>
ok :)
<jadedctrl>
thanks for taking a look btw :)
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<rennj>
find out what going on between browser and endpoint
<rennj>
mitmproxy is your swiss-army knife for debugging, testing, privacy measurements, and penetration testing. It can be used to intercept, inspect, modify and replay web traffic such as HTTP/1, HTTP/2, WebSockets, or any other SSL/TLS-protected protocols.
<yann64[m]>
404 page of Discourse always render fine for me, then I can browse any other page without any issue. But if I come back to Discourse home/main page, bugs come back and all subsequent pages are also problematic... until I enter a wrong url again to bring back the non-faulty 404 page.
<yann64[m]>
So issue seem to be related to Discourse home/main page
<yann64[m]>
Other Discourse generated pages do not have the issue if the main/home page was accessed before
<yann64[m]>
And all can be reset by going to 404 page (wrong URL)
<yann64[m]>
Anybody else seeing this?
<nephele[x]>
HI yann64
<nephele[x]>
You are correct, i can't make the issue appear on the 404 side either
<nephele[x]>
I can still reproduce the issue on other sides after that, but it's much harder... really strange
<nephele[x]>
Good find :)
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
how hard is porting qt linux programs to haiku
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
I would like to try porting https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ to haiku so I can use discord on it
<nephele[x]>
Depends NorthwoodsNEKO
<nephele[x]>
mainly on how much platform stuff your qt app uses, and on which qt apis
<nephele[x]>
for many qt apps it's mostly just porting deps and then compiling them, but not so much if you draw your own controls, or use qtwebengine or so
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
well it has versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux so I would think it would be pretty platform dep.
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
* well it has versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux so I would think it would be pretty platform independant.
<nephele[x]>
DUnno, I've never used discord or any alternative clients
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
actually I don't think ripcord is opensource
<nephele[x]>
In that case, maybe ask the developers for a port?
<nephele[x]>
yann64[m]: do you think you could try to reduce the testcase for the 404 site like you mentioned?
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
its shareware, free if you only use the discord part and not slack, otherwise you gotta get a licensekey
<yann64[m]>
nephele[x]: will make an attempt tonight
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
i might email asking for a haiku port if possible
<NorthwoodsNEKO[m]>
he also provides source for enterprise customers (slack users ig), so he might supply the source to a porter/maintainer for free
<nephele[x]>
yann64: nice find anyhow, second step in finding out when this darn bug is triggered :D
<yann64[m]>
nephele[x]: hopefully tonight I can narrow that. Need to make the kids eat and put them to bed for now :)
<jadedctrl>
NorthwoodsNEKO[m]: purple-discord works with finch and cardie, if you don't mind some rough edges
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<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/JWNDP
<Coldfirex_>
Are the ones highlted in green fixed?
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<yann64[m]>
nephele[x]: ok, I just generated two static pages, the 404 one which does not produce the bug and one that systematically shows the bug on my side. There are much more links to css/js in the header of the thread one. Will work at removing links that are not present in the 404 one until I cannot reproduce the bug anymore.
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<nephele[x]>
yann64: okay :)
<nephele[x]>
Would be interesting why the 404 page does not let the issue be reproduced in general though, i can reproduce it with a smaller site with only a bit of static text
<yann64[m]>
I am actually working backward: going from the full css/jss page, and simplify it toward 404 simplicity, testing at each step if I can reproduce the bug
<Begasus>
heading down, g'night peeps
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<nephele[x]>
yeah, i got that, just wondering why the more complex 404 page seems to fix the issue on other sites compared to my static site that can produce the issue
<Coldfirex_>
Thanks to all digging into this bug btw
<yann64[m]>
good point, will check after
<nephele[x]>
let's see how i can get wget to save the site despite of 404 :)
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<nephele[x]>
managed to download it now, was a bit complicated, lol
<yann64[m]>
well I am getting confused, I commented out a lot of stuff in the static html page, and simplu commenting/uncommenting a <link> element referencing another thread una canonical way will trigger or not the bug
<yann64[m]>
so not css nor js
<nephele[x]>
It's likely a race condition somewhere...
<nephele[x]>
U akready gathered it's probably not js that causes it since i can reproduce it without it
<nephele[x]>
The browser does not load to seem the correct css, so it's really hard to tell
<yann64[m]>
yes, it is all a mess, but in one case I can see the text and not make it dissapear, on the other one it does vanish if I resize he window quickly
<yann64[m]>
will remove svg glyphs/images so I can reproduce only on text
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<nephele[x]>
down to 79 lines...
<nephele[x]>
Okay, i have two versions now too :)
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<nephele[x]>
If i remove the header if stops working :o
<yann64[m]>
what a surprise :D
<nephele[x]>
I can make it disapear on certain zoom levels but not on others, huh
<yann64[m]>
do you still have two files (one with the big and the other not)?
<nephele[x]>
Well, it's not reliably not working anymore, so maybe i removed something else...
<nephele[x]>
Yes, i do, i copied versions each time, i can zip it up for you? :)
<yann64[m]>
sure
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<nephele[x]>
now to find a file host... ugh, if only i had my ssh keys with me xD
<nephele[x]>
I added discussN each time i changed something, after 6 or so i think it started to be reproducible again?
<nephele[x]>
in the first folder it was called meh still, i used python -m http.server to use it locally, the first couple iterations actually use discuss upstream stylesheets
<yann64[m]>
ok
<yann64[m]>
got it, thanks, will test on my side
<nephele[x]>
i'll stopfor now, this issue is so confusing :P
<yann64[m]>
well, got it reproduced on your 5
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<nephele[x]>
only diff to 4 seems to be dark mode css?
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<yann64[m]>
well; even more confusing, I can make it dissapear on 4, but it will come back quicker than on 5 (just a bit of scrolling will restore the text)
<yann64[m]>
need to check with a new instance of webpositive each time to make sure something does not stay in memory
<nephele[x]>
HaikuLauncher is nice for that :)
<yann64[m]>
indeed
<yann64[m]>
text still disapear with a new instance on 4
<yann64[m]>
so nope,, maybe not related to dark mde css
<nephele[x]>
cool, that would have been anoying :P
<yann64[m]>
and I confirm I cannot make the test disapear on 3
<nephele[x]>
Well, that is a bit of a pickle
<nephele[x]>
i removed the stylesheets from 3 to 4
<nephele[x]>
and two js files :(
<yann64[m]>
OK, so it may not be related to css/js, but to text size or image size (webkit crashing with fast text or fast image resizing)?
<nephele[x]>
figuring out a minimal "immune" example would be neat
<nephele[x]>
webkit crashing?
<yann64[m]>
sorry, not crashing completely
<yann64[m]>
renedring glich dur to text or image resizing
<yann64[m]>
will check with only svg image
<yann64[m]>
+ simple text
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<nephele[x]>
soungs good, i'll go to sleep in a bit, maybe update the ticket if you find anything? :)
<yann64[m]>
Of course will do :)
<yann64[m]>
goodnight
<nephele[x]>
night
<Skipp_OSX>
I need a way to differentiate between wireless NetworkDevice's that have the same name and encryption but different frequencies... is there a way that I can access the frequency of a network as in a wireless_network struct?