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<clee>
okay, got the VF2 firmware updated to version 3.1.5, built a nightly-mmc image, flashed that to an NVME SSD, set the bootcmd and boot targets, aaaand it crashes when trying to boot. https://pastebin.com/vYTFEXJR
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<slidercrank>
hello. how do I edit grub.cfg on the the first partition (ext2) from loaded Haiku?
<slidercrank>
I can mount it. But how do I open the file? with what? nano? what is the path to the mounted partition?
<slidercrank>
didn't find 'mnt' or 'mount'
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<slidercrank>
for some reason Haiku doesn't offer to select nano when I choose "open with". but it eagerly goes to backtrace (runs a debugger)
<slidercrank>
disregard my questions. I figured it out
<clee>
apparently it didn't like having an SD card and an NVME disk inserted at the same time. I just got Haiku booting off NVME on the VF2!
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<phschafft>
didn't someone in here write a DOS ".com" file emulator as a quick hack?
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<moparisthebest>
Doesn't dosbox run on haiku ?
<phschafft>
I think so.
<phschafft>
but I'm looking specifically for that code.
<phschafft>
still need to write the actual loading (currently the program is just a hard coded string, but that is all minor stuff for tomorrow)
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<phschafft>
/3"blabla" searches for the program. it is found at 594 with the local temp. alias *2 being set to it. so the next line when '*2' calls the program.
<phschafft>
the T: tells that it was correctly selected, and after that follows the output from your com file. :)
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<phschafft>
that sad, thank you for your support and have a good night. :)
<erysdren>
have a good night!
<erysdren>
nice to see that it works :D
<phschafft>
:)
<phschafft>
it's fun.
<phschafft>
because it's so strange.
<phschafft>
but now, good night for real :)
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<coolcoder613_>
Hello Cliff
<Cliff>
Nice. There are a lot of people in here
<Cliff>
hi!
<erysdren>
hello!
<Cliff>
I still have all my original BeOS install CDs from when it first came out
<Cliff>
It was my primary OS for quite a while
* coolcoder613_
still has his BeOS laptop from a few weeks ago
<Cliff>
I've also been using IRC since the mid 1990s
<Cliff>
Also have all the ZetaOS install CDs from when they came out, too
<Cliff>
Just installed Haiku in a VM on my dual Xeon linux box
<coolcoder613_>
What did you use? QEMU?
<Cliff>
What did I use for what?
<coolcoder613_>
To create a VM of Haiku
<Cliff>
BeOS and Zeta were directly installed on the hardware I had back then. Haiku is currently in a VM in VirtualBox
<Cliff>
Oh, I just used VirtualBox and used the ISO to install it
<coolcoder613_>
Haiku doesn't perform well in VirtualBox, try using KVM or VMWare
<Cliff>
It seems to be fine so far since I have 36 cores, 72 threads and 128GB of RAM on a 4TB m.2
<Cliff>
nothing has lagged in the slightest so far
* coolcoder613_
is green with envy ;)
<Cliff>
This was a stupid cheap build. Under $700 for everything. Slightly over 700 since I added RGB and dual AIO liquid coolers.
<Cliff>
Started buying 1 or 2 parts per month from March and built it in September
<Cliff>
that way it didn't feel like it was expensive
<coolcoder613_>
My most specced out machine is a base model m1 macbook air :(
<Cliff>
The only Mac hardware I've ever owned is a 2007 iMac with a core2 Duo and that was given to me
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<Cliff>
I maxed it out with 6GB RAM and a 240GB SataSSD
<Cliff>
hi v_harkonnen
* coolcoder613_
has 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD
<Cliff>
That old iMac still runs fine with a lightweight Debian based Linux
<coolcoder613_>
for around 1250 AUD
<Cliff>
Each of these Xeon CPUs are used, and cost $36 USD each
<coolcoder613_>
Where are you? Can you build one for me?
<v_harkonnen>
Hello
<Cliff>
Using DDR4 ECC server RAM since it was so cheap on eBay
<Cliff>
I'm on the east coast of the US, so shipping would be hefty to AU
<Cliff>
One of my good friends lives in Sydney, but she doesn't know how to build computers. lol
<Cliff>
Even if I sent her all the parts
* coolcoder613_
has one desktop
<coolcoder613_>
It runs Haiku, and it is 32-bit with 3G of RAM
<Cliff>
I have ... uh ... a dozen+ desktops, and a pile of laptops
<Cliff>
been building computers since the mid 1990s
<Cliff>
and I got my first computer in 1982
<Cliff>
Was recently given 5 Lenovo miniPCs that are 8th gen i7 8700T with 500GB m.2 drives, 16GB RAM
<erysdren>
sheesh lol
<Cliff>
Getting some more of those
<erysdren>
i'd love some of those
<erysdren>
just for tinkering
<Cliff>
I've been giving them to friends as set-top streaming boxes and emulator game boxes for their TVs
<Cliff>
I figured since I get them free, I may as well make them into nice machines, and pass them alone
<Cliff>
I figured since I get them free, I may as well make them into nice machines, and pass them along
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* coolcoder613_
wants a /my command
* coolcoder613_
has six computers
<coolcoder613_>
with RAM from 64MB to 8GB and storage from 4.8GB to 1TB
<Cliff>
M.2 drives are so stupid cheap any more
<Cliff>
4TB was only $134
<Cliff>
and 128GB RAM was only $94
<coolcoder613_>
My BeOS laptop cost me $5
<coolcoder613_>
AUD
<Cliff>
Thats almost the best price
<Cliff>
however, free is the best price
<Cliff>
My daily driver laptio I got for free
<Cliff>
12th gen i7 HP that I build out of 3 broken laptops
<mbrumbelow>
Hey Begasus. Saw your message on Github. Thanks for the feedback.
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<zard>
zeldakatze[m]: Welcome :)
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<zeldakatze[m]>
I've just tried to install Haiku on an ideapad 100-15IBY
<zeldakatze[m]>
I used the latest nightly, and with acpi enabled, it crashes on an assertion. It doesn't seem to write a syslog, as the only syslogs I could get were from it starting without acpi. Does someone know how to get a syslog? Then I'd create a bug report, as I could not find one describing that
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<Begasus>
zeldakatze[m], not that familiar there, but isn't there a boot option in the menu to show output log?
<zeldakatze[m]>
there is, but it's not written to disk
<zeldakatze[m]>
I'll quickly try again
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<Begasus>
should show some output on screen
<Begasus>
iirc
<zeldakatze[m]>
I just somehow managed to miss that option, it's hiding in plain sight
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<Begasus>
baib
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<augiedoggie>
seems like haikudepot isn't updating, the latest packages are from a couple of days ago
<augiedoggie>
at least the web version, haven't looked in the app
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<andreasdr[m]>
Hi there.
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<andreasdr[m]>
phschafft: Cool. I just liked!
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<zdykstra>
it's -15F outside, and just too dang cold in my basement office
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<Begasus>
zdykstra, maybe seek some higher grounds? ;)
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<bitigchi[m]>
So, how do I open a folder as a project in Genio?
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<phschafft>
Thank you. :)
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<BoxingOctopus[m]>
Hey folks, I'm trying to install Haiku on an Acer Aspire 3 A315-21. I'm booting Haiku off of a USB stick, but the installer won't let me install to the laptop's SSD.
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
I tried clicking on "tools" and going to "set up boot menu", but it shows the SSD as being an "incompatible format".
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
I've reinitialized the drive with a GUID Partition Map, but it still shows as incompatible.
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
I've tried with several other drives, and they all say "incompatible format"
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<BoxingOctopus[m]>
I tried reinitializing with an Intel Partition Map as well
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
still get the same error
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<diver>
BoxingOctopus[m]: "incompatible format" means that there is no MBR
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<BoxingOctopus[m]>
diver: okay, so how do I set up this drive then?? The drive I want to install to is greyed out in the installer.
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
sorry if this is a silly-seeming question, but I'm kinda new to running Haiku on bare metal. I've only ever run it on VMs before.
<zard>
bitigchi[m]: Don't have my Haiku machine on atm, but, iirc it was some relatively simple menu option.
<zard>
But, I, too, did have trouble finding it at first
<diver>
you should be able to init MBR drive in DriveSetup's Disk menu
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
diver: the only options I see under "Initialize" in the Disk menu are "Intel Extended Partition", "GUID Partition Map", and "Intel Partition Map"
<diver>
Intel Partition Map is MBR
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
okay, reinitialized with Intel Partition Map. Let's see what happens.
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
still says Incompatible Format.
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
do I need to reboot or something??
<diver>
take a screenshot of DriveSetup, something is not right
<zdykstra>
did you create a partition?
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
zdykstra: no, left it unpartitioned
<diver>
we should improve this text in BootManager, this is not the first time "incompatible format" caused confusion
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<extrowerk>
ping
<Begasus>
pong
<extrowerk>
Thx. I mis-configured my IRC and haven't received an message for 2 days or so...
<Begasus>
good thing there are the logs :)
<extrowerk>
i was suspecting some misconfiguration yeserday, but i was able to send messages and it showed up in the irc log, but otherwise there wasn't any big activity as i checked, so i wasn't sure.
<bitigchi[m]>
<zard> "bitigchi: Don't have my Haiku..." <- I think open project… clicked, let’s see what’ll happen
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<x512[m]>
socat not yet ported to Haiku?
<Begasus>
nothing shows up with inrecipe, so probably not
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
hey folks, got another issue: Can't seem to get wireless networking going on this laptop
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
tried running the script from the docs
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
but I'm relatively certain this laptop has an atheros chipset
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
not broadcom or marvell
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
and I noticed the script only seems to install drivers for broadcom and marvell
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
is there a separate process for atheros cards?
<waddlesplash>
the script is only for very old hardware
<waddlesplash>
anything recent has firmware bundled
<waddlesplash>
newer atheros isn't supported at all; slightly old atheros doesn't need firmware
<waddlesplash>
so, check if FreeBSD supports your device
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
waddlesplash: okay, but broadcom shouldn't have any trouble?
<waddlesplash>
broadcom is barely supported really
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
so what should I be looking out for?
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
what IS supported?
<waddlesplash>
what do you mean?
<x512[m]>
Haiku have no getaddrinfo support?
<waddlesplash>
oh. Intel chipsets mostly
<waddlesplash>
x512[m]: ? we definitely have that?
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
cool. I'll see if I can get an Intel-based card for this laptop then
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<x512[m]>
Or Autotools sucks as usual.
<waddlesplash>
BoxingOctopus[m]: a number of Realtek USB dongles also work (whatever ones FreeBSD supports)
<waddlesplash>
x512[m]: need -lnetwork
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<BoxingOctopus[m]>
waddlesplash: I'd like to avoid dongles if I can, but good to know nonetheless :)
<waddlesplash>
ok
<waddlesplash>
well, basically all Intel cards should work. check both FreeBSD and OpenBSD compatibility lists (we should support anything either of them do; OpenBSD specifically has the drivers for the newest stuff while FreeBSD doesn't)
<waddlesplash>
but also note, if you're buying a new card, that there are some Intel cards which only work with Intel CPUs/motherboards
<waddlesplash>
so watch out for that
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
will do, thanks for the tip :)
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
oh, this isn't a dealbreaker, but what is bluetooth support like right now in Haiku?
<waddlesplash>
poor
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
figured as much lol
<waddlesplash>
we have a bluetooth stack but it's dusty
<waddlesplash>
basically no drivers actually use it
<waddlesplash>
you can pair. that's about it
<BoxingOctopus[m]>
gotcha
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<x512[m]>
waddlesplash: Is there an option in Haiku to open terminal over UNIX socket?
<waddlesplash>
what do you mean?
<x512[m]>
Needed for QEMU monitor.
<waddlesplash>
still not sure what you are asking here
<x512[m]>
Type characters to terminal -> write to socket. Read characters from socked printed to terminal.
<x512[m]>
socat can do that, but it seems not ported to Haiku.
<waddlesplash>
TTYs are distinct from sockets, yes
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<x512[m]>
So I need to connect UNIX socket to stdin/stdout.
<PulkoMandy>
Isn't that just netcat?
<waddlesplash>
that sounds like what "socat" itself does?
<waddlesplash>
this isn't an inherent POSIX feature
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<PulkoMandy>
Ah maybe netcat is tcp/udp only and you need socat. Anyway it should not be a problem to compile it? Seems just a case of "nobody needed it before" to me
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<x512[m]>
socat wants various TTY definitions missing in Haiku.
<extrowerk>
BoxingOctopus[m]: i am not sure what's the state of USB audio, but you can check the Creative BT-W5 (or similar) product. It is a small USB dongle, which shows up as a USB sound card for the OS and takes care about the bluetooth connectivity, so no Bluetooth support needed from the host OS to be able to listen music over a wireless headphone.