<Begasus>
rust etc updated and binaries show up on the Desktop (only on 64bit, 32bit doesn't show this) (restarting Tracker resolves it, but still ...)
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<Begasus>
should check this on a virtual nightly later if it shows up there too
<Begasus>
it's not bad on a clean boot, but once you have been doing some work in Tracker and restart it you loose all the current history :)
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes dcc36c6 - libksane: bump version
<Begasus>
ok, that's a first, building shared library for exempi results in undefined errors, disabling shared and only build static and all test pass :)
<Begasus>
maybe it's just not meant to be used as a shared library?
<Begasus>
from Gentoo: # --disable-static breaks tests
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 548ed7f - filelight: bump version
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<dovsienko>
the matter is, it is also the testing ground for potentially breaking changes in libpcap and tcpdump, so when something breaks, the maintainers are more likely to know it before shipping a release
<dovsienko>
new Autoconf versions in the first place
<Begasus>
dovsienko, always do a check in Terminal before starting a recipe, that went smooth
<Begasus>
grabbing tcpslice-1.7-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/tcpslice-1.7-1-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus>
now filling in the gaps (summary/description ...) :)
<Begasus>
dovsienko, does it build with gcc2?
<dovsienko>
Begasus: I do not remember trying, but it uses C99
<dovsienko>
so perhaps it would be better not to add GCC 2 to the problem space
<Begasus>
I see libpcap build for both arch's on 32bit :)
<zard>
Oof. First kdl
<Begasus>
yay! :D
<zard>
:P (It's related to ext4. Maybe ext2 will be more stable?)
<zard>
Alright, here we go again. Let's see what happens...
<Begasus>
dovsienko, already disabled gcc2 in the PR for tcpslide, doesn't seem to do any good tackling the parse errors when it can be build with gcc13
<dovsienko>
Begasus: the libraries are optional, you can get rid of the warnings by using ./configure --without-libnids --without-libosipparser2 --without-libooh323c
<Begasus>
those are only warnings, so no issue in the build
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e1adee9 - tcpslice, move to official URI (#10189)
<dovsienko>
there's also sed in config.guess, and probably something else that is a package in Haiku
<dovsienko>
e.g. grep
<Begasus>
k, build finished on buildmasters, ready to try out
<dovsienko>
on a second thought, maybe you could keep cmd:autoreconf in BUILD_PREREQUIRES to get the dependencies, but omit autoreconf from BUILD
<dovsienko>
if you update the recipe again, maybe set COPYRIGHT to 2024 as well
<Begasus>
afaik sed and grep are basic ones pulled in when building
<Begasus>
could bump again though
<Begasus>
but first the dogs :)
<dovsienko>
which also reminds me, somehow the licence file is missing. I vaguely remember discussing it before, but it seems the matter was overwhelmed by something else
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<dovsienko>
oh yes, in August 2020, in the middle of the virus quarantines. let me revive the thread...
<dovsienko>
Begasus: thank you for taking the feedback
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 83522ff - tcpslice, re-add autoreconf as per request (#10190)
<Begasus>
strange ;) if I build a shared library for exempi it gives undefined references in it's test, if I use the static library for tellico it gives the same error
<Begasus>
using shared one for tellico is fine then :P
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 83b2451 - exempi, new recipe (#10187)
<dovsienko>
I wonder if there is a simple way to tell which exact files a package provides (a la "dpkg-query --listfiles <package>" and "rpm -ql <package") and to print the list of currently installed packages (a la "dpkg-query -l" and "rpm -qa")
<dovsienko>
also to tell which package a file belongs to (a la "dpkg-query --search <filepath>" and "rpm -qf <filepath>")
<zard>
/boot/system/packages shows all of the packages installed
<zard>
Pretty much all of the files you see in the system directory are a result of union mounting all of the .hpkg files in that directory
<zard>
So, all you need to do to install a new package is to put the .hpkg into that directory. Pretty interesting :)
<Begasus>
package list <packagename> shows the content of a package
<Begasus>
got a "compare_package.py" script here to compare contents for those (probably got this through OscarL) :)
<zard>
To figure out which package provides a file, you need to read the SYS:PACKAGE_FILE attribute. `listattr` is a command that can give that
<zard>
You can also open the file with DiskProbe and use the attributes menu to view the attributes
<zard>
So, between Begasus and I, I think that's all three questions answered :-)
<Begasus>
there is also "pkgman search cmd:foo" ;)
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<zard>
bbl
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<nephele>
phschafft: Now I'd be available :P
<phschafft>
good evening.
<phschafft>
how're you this fine afternoon?
<nephele>
Annoyed at my local goverment for failing to abide to the GDPR, but other than that I am fine :)
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* phschafft
nods.
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<zard>
re
* zard
is working on getting a complete copy of haikuwebkit (ext2 seems to have some bugs. Hopefully git reset --hard helps. But that one's taking a while)
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 085fd41 - tellico, add versioning for libcdio, fixes build on 32bit (buildmaster) (#10192)
<Begasus>
Anarchos, long time ago (RemoteDesktop) :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus ok. I wonder if it is remote desktop or qemu which is so slow. I try to access a qemu VM running on a distant Haiku server accessed through RemoteDesktop
<Begasus>
I only use qemu for checking out a freshly build Haiku Anarchos, other then that I'm not using it for anything
<zard>
I use Haiku on qemu through vnc all the time. Including right now. You can use the -vnc option on qemu for this :)
<zard>
Works very fast with little to no lag
<zard>
(at least on the local network)
<Begasus>
k, not sure if this is fixed in nightlies (will check later for that), but on 32bit I'm getting the same as I mentioned this morning, icons popping up on the Desktop after a fresh install for a package
<OscarL>
zard: he is running qemu ON Haiku, not the other way around.
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<Begasus>
Hola OscarL :)
<OscarL>
Hey Begasus :-)
<Begasus>
just uninstalled NeoChat (local build) and installed the one from the depot, now I got 2 NeoChat icons on the Desktop
<Anarchos>
OscarL thanks, every people or query with 'qemu+haiku' links always to haiku running in qemu, not the other way araound :)
<zard>
Oh, ok. That's totally different
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<Anarchos>
OscarL but as i use haiku bare metals on all my PCs, i must install linux in qemu to access other features...
<OscarL>
Anarchos: too me a while to understand your use case myself, that's why I remember it :-D
<OscarL>
s/too/took/
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<OscarL>
Anarchos: sadly, until Haiku gains some form of KVM / NVMM... virtualization via QEMU ON Haiku, will still be pretty slow.
<OscarL>
I believe in you, Begasus! You can do it!
<Begasus>
LOL
<OscarL>
Maybe if you and I team up? :-D
<Anarchos>
OscarL will look for it.
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<Begasus>
OscarL, don't think the mentor could deal with the 2 of us :D
<OscarL>
Begasus: BTW, regarding your issue with "files appearing on Desktop for no reason" earlier...
<OscarL>
I've seen that as well.
<Begasus>
it's been mentioned before (known(?) issue)
<Begasus>
not sure if it happens on nightlies
<OscarL>
For me it involves.... having a symlink on the desktop (to a file on folder "F", having a Tracker window open for folder "F", and git updating files on said folder "F".
<OscarL>
restarting Tracker does makes those "fake files" go away, yes.
<humdinger>
boohoohoo... Ghostfiles!
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<OscarL>
humdinger from the bench with the link assist!
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<Begasus>
whoot, oldy!
<OscarL>
uhh, fancy Track dark theme!
<humdinger>
yeah. all new today it seems.
<OscarL>
s/Track/Trac/
<humdinger>
nephele's doing I guess?
<nephele>
Well, apparently it's utter trash and will be replaced.
<humdinger>
needs a "black on transparent" icon
<OscarL>
Using Dark Reader on top of it: nice.
<humdinger>
Looks good to me in light mode.
<Begasus>
dark theme? not atm :P
<Begasus>
using color-schemes in the KDE apps though :P
<nephele>
humdinger: Honestly, I'm so done with css. Worked for days on that. And now basically get told that it's utter garbage and will be replaced, and pretty much called a liar in the other channel
<humdinger>
harsh
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<humdinger>
LGTM anyway...
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<zdykstra>
the dark theme looks good to me
<nephele>
enjoy it I guess
<Begasus>
food ... biab
<nephele>
I'm just really sad now
<nephele>
not sure if i should keep working on haiku if that is the reaction i get
<nosycat>
Oh, damn. That's terrible.
<humdinger>
As it's not logged I can form an opinion on the reaction...
<OscarL>
(my monitor is a bit crap with colors it seems, and the improved contrast makes it nicer to me)
<nephele>
dark reader inverted the editing controls over the bar.
<OscarL>
yeah, that bit is bad.
<nephele>
(*I* inverted them already, as they are png and i did not have much choice, but dark reader doubly inverted them)
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<OscarL>
just mentioning this... because it surely beats what DarkReader was doing for me before :-)
<zard>
*sigh* seems like Haiku doesn't have a very good way of handling large changes. If a change is mostly positive, but one or two people don't like it, then things can become... not very fun
<nephele>
humdinger: it is logged on my computer xD
<zard>
Referring to this channel? It's logged...
<humdinger>
dev channel
* zard
never knew of that channel before
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<nephele>
that's because humdinger was not supposed to mention it ;)
<humdinger>
so, it's a sort of fight club...
<humdinger>
as nephele found out :)
<OscarL>
:-P
<OscarL>
I call ALL my work trash, preemptively.
<zard>
bbiab
<humdinger>
good. pessimism is the only way to never be disappointed.
<nosycat>
But if a dev gives up, we all lose.
<humdinger>
true
<nosycat>
Haiku already has few people working on it.
<nosycat>
And people can be very critical nowadays.
<nephele>
humdinger: I can send it by email if you want to read it
<OscarL>
"nowadays"? kids these days! :-P
<humdinger>
nephele: Upon reflection, I'm not really into getting involved at this time.
<nephele>
that's fine
* OscarL
considers himself more a "realist" than a "pessimist". I mean... have you SEEN my code? :-D
<humdinger>
good enough to endure code review and getting merged. :)
<humdinger>
yuo're doing fine.
<nephele>
nosycat: i don't mind critizism, that's perfectly fine. I'm also willing to improve stuff
<nephele>
but just deleting my work, and then calling me a liar for not sharing it beforehand... when I did very publically is too much for me
<nosycat>
:O
<OscarL>
Thanks for the kind words, humdinger. Much Apprecieated.
<humdinger>
Anyhoo... enough for today.
<humdinger>
see you guys later!
<OscarL>
Later!
<nosycat>
Take care!
* humdinger
waves
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<zard>
re
<nosycat>
Welcome back.
* nephele
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* OscarL
thinks he'll add CMD+TAB and CMD+Shift+TAB as alternatives to CMD+right/left on Terminal.
<nephele>
why?
<nephele>
also cmd "alt"-tab I would veto
<Begasus>
Just use the mouse?
<PulkoMandy>
I would much prefer to keep the arrow keys for this
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<PulkoMandy>
I was already quite confused at work today, getting used to haiku using the window key but my work machine on Linux still using shift
<OscarL>
PulkoMandy: I don't intend to remove the one with the arrows. Just complement them.
<PulkoMandy>
Ok, more shortcuts isn't so much of a problem :)
<nephele>
I don't think any application should implement alt-tab
<OscarL>
I'm used to: ALT+Tab switch windows, CTRL+Tab switches tabs (on Win/Lin)., so having something similar in Haiku (taking CMDvsCTRL into account, of course)
<nephele>
that should be for twitcher/switcher
<OscarL>
mmm, forgot about Terminal's "Switch Terminals" menu item. That does sounds weird to me, but... what do I know.
<OscarL>
Begasus: I don't have mouse OR touchpad on the "new" netbook :-)
<Begasus>
tsss :)
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<Begasus>
OscarL, you got the sources, change it to your liking? :P
<OscarL>
nephele: just to make myself clear, my comment was aimed at handling tabs inside a single Terminal window (not multiple, Terminal or otherwise, windows).
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 49d736ca2a61 - tcp: actually send finish when needed by the state
<OscarL>
Begasus: on it :-)
<Begasus>
k closing down here, gonna run a quick check on a nightly vm for that issue
<Begasus>
cu peeps!
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<nephele>
OscarL: Yes, I understand that. But in generall I think we should add alt-tab as OS level control for window switching
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<nephele>
*all* other Major OS do it like this, and apart from the "like windows just inverted" there is no real reason for this that I could find
<OscarL>
the fact that I usually use Win/Lin mode in Keymap (my brain can't deal with not using CTRL+C/V for copy/paste) certainly doesn't helps :-D
<nephele>
You can always implement the original windows shortcuts for this if you want
<nephele>
ctrl insert
<nephele>
ctrl delete
<nephele>
:D
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<OscarL>
using "Haiku mode" for now (while I do my best with Terminal).
<OscarL>
nephele: re Shift+Ins/Del and Ctrl+Ins/Del, yeah... already have a local Terminal that send the needed ESC-codes to the underlying shell :-D
<nephele>
(my view of wanting to delete "Terminal" probably doesn't help the discussion)
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<OscarL>
consider it as /me trying to "pimp the VT100 crutch" till your new thing gets released :-)
<OscarL>
Now... if only I understood what the heck OPT+Tab is doing on Terminal :-D
<OscarL>
Seems like it puts the focus on the tabs, but the "focus underline" only appears after you use the left/right arrows.
<OscarL>
then you can select focused tab by hitting ENTER (EXCEPT if its the one already active, mmm)
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<OscarL>
While on "select tab" mode... hitting TAB once more seems to put focus on the itty-bitty window icon over the scrollbar, but I don't see any visual feedback for that.
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<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] i am back
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<Anarchos>
hello jmairboeck!!
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck long time no see
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<OscarL>
Mmm, some "#if 0" code on kits/interface/TabView.cpp hints at using "wheel_delta_x" for switching tabs.
<OscarL>
Do we have any "standard" for using a modifier + scroll wheel to turn it from "wheel_delta_y" to "wheel_delta_x" ?
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<coolcoder613_32>
Good morning
<OscarL>
hello coolcoder613_32 :-)
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