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<coolcoder613_32> I've had Web+ crash on me too many times
<coolcoder613_32> also password manager and adblocker features sound great
<zard> It might fix some of that, we'll see
<zard> Though, I wouldn't be surprised if I can't get to that stuff by the end of GSoC
<zard> These browsers... they are simply *massive*
<zard> And they can often take hours to compile
<coolcoder613_32> I'm trying to compile litehtml
<coolcoder613_32> specifically litebrowser
<coolcoder613_32> I think i've almost got it
<coolcoder613_32> theres just
<coolcoder613_32> error: cannot convert 'BPrivate::Network::BUrlProtocolDispatchingListener*' to 'BDataIO*'
<zard> "expected ; after class definition" always trips me up :^)
<coolcoder613_32> It seems to be missing an argument actually
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<coolcoder613_32> No docs for the old netservices?
<zard> No idea. Maybe in the BeBook?
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<zard> gtg, bye!
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<coolcoder613_32> Hi m3tric
<m3tric> hello
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a8241432b177...c188ba5280f7
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] kallisti5 c188ba5 - media-fonts: Add the nice 'inter' font
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<coolcoder613_32> I need help: https://0x0.st/Xs10.diff
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<m3tric> hello
<augiedoggie> hi
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<OscarL> The motherboard of my main PC seems to have finally died :-/. Tried replacing caps... (even bought some spare ones just in case)... no go :-(
<OscarL> this craptop barely good for some lighter stuff, so I'll probably be less active until I find a replacement mobo, or some other semi-decent PC I can use.
<augiedoggie> that sucks :/
<OscarL> Indeed. 12 years of abuse in a hot climate... can't be good for such a cheap mobo that I bought second hand :-D. Re-capped it once before a few years ago. This time... Unless I get some kind of miracle... doubt it will revive. :-(
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<rennj> MIL-STD-810H panasonic toughbook for under $600.00 w00t...
<rennj> aluminium unibody, lenovo ideapad 5 15ABA7 2022 zen3 $500 MIL-STD-810H...or try to find zen 3+/zen4 for less than $900-$3000
<rennj> walmart special..the intel stuff is junk
<rennj> swap out the micron 500GB nvme ssd for wd black SN770 1TB for under $85 bucks with taxes..less than $600.00 w00t.
<rennj> https://pasteboard.co/82EUCDNAvCnf.png Begasus[m] compile jobs
<rennj> posix/portable plan9 ape env....
<rennj> APE — The ANSI/POSIX Environment
<rennj> my phone and my laptop have 8 2GHz cpu's
<rennj> phone has 6GB ram 300GB nand, laptop has 16GB 1TB tlc nand
<rennj> phone and laptop 7nm tech 2022
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<coolcoder613> I'm trying out shell hosting on my rpi, who wants the first account?
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<coolcoder613> Hi Begasus
<Begasus> Hi coolcoder613
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c188ba5280f7...bd3126aea71c
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus bd3126a - kdevelop, revbump, use system theme (#10258)
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<coolcoder613> Begasus: screenshot?
<Begasus> from kdevelop?
<coolcoder613> yes
<Begasus> without the patch https://0x0.st/XseW.png
<Begasus> doesn't follow system color scheme, so one will have to select
<Begasus> with patch, folows system theme: https://0x0.st/Xsey.png
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<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> mind you, the color themes in the first screenshot are not default available :)
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<Begasus> Works for Okular too, while it's nice one doesn't have to tinker about the color schemes, it's nice to be able to switch on the spot without changing the whole systems looks :)
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<Begasus> k, this doesn't work for all KDE apps (latest neochat/kasts don't use the same approach) :)
<Begasus> hi jmairboeck
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bd3126aea71c...d7100f893321
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d7100f8 - cudatext, bump 64bit version (#10259)
<Begasus> for now only 64bit, need to straighten out 32bit lazarus :/
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<Anarchos> how to run a simple haiku test ?
<Begasus> test 1
<Begasus> test can be many Anarchos :)
<Anarchos> Begasus i added a unit test in haiku source
<Begasus> no idea there
<Begasus> reboot to VM ...
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<Anarchos> i have trouble to build unittests ...
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<Begasus> I'm having troubles with building lazarus on 32bit ... :)
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<Begasus> Forgot I was in Windows Alt-F4 doesn't work like in Haiku :P
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<Anarchos> Begasus lol
<Anarchos> Begasus i avoid shortcuts when working in VM ...
<Begasus> Hard not to Anarchos , one laptop running Haiku native, on this one Haiku running on the external screen in VM :D
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<Begasus> k, start from scratch ... new VM
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<Begasus> thanks jmairboeck :)
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<jmairboeck> have fun reviewing texlive-2024 part 1: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/10261 :)
<jmairboeck> part 2 will still take a while
<Begasus> will do when I'm native on 64bit again :)
<jmairboeck> I won't test 32 bit myself, my 32 bit VM isn't big enough for it
<jmairboeck> so I guess we have to trust the buildmaster there
<jmairboeck> or someone else wants to volunteer
<zard> Too bad that WebKit build will take at least another hour, or I might have enough memory to run another VM
<Begasus> Texlive probably takes a "bit" over a day to fully build zard :)
<zard> Yikes!
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<Begasus> I think the first time I tried it it took about 2 days to build here, should be a "bit" faster on this install :)
<jmairboeck> and I'll have to build it at least twice to get the subpackage infos correct
<jmairboeck> but the second time doesn't take so long of course
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<Begasus> round * on fpcupdeluxe/lazarus ... :(
<Begasus> done for now, even on a new install, and done everything as before it's still crashing when trying to open another project :/
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<Begasus> k, let's launch this jmairboeck :)
<jmairboeck> I have only published texlive_core for now
<jmairboeck> texlixe-texmf is still unpacking
<jmairboeck> splitting this in 2 recipes was a good idea
<Begasus> np, need to update autoconf :)
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<jmairboeck> and install mpfi and potrace
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<jmairboeck> 2 new dependencies
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<jmairboeck> potrace was already in 2023, but I forgot it last year, so it used its internal copy instead of the system one, mpfi is new this year (and a new recipe since yesterday)
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<Begasus> jmairboeck, they are not declared as requirements for texlive_core?
<Begasus> they are :)
<jmairboeck> yes, they are :)
<Begasus> ps jmairboeck, maybe keep the one from last year around for 32bit?
<Begasus> you deleted that in the PR
<jmairboeck> I can do that if you want, but I don't see much of problem updating it for both. Unless some problems with secondaryArch comes up, but I don't think so. The upgrade of texlive_core was pretty smooth (the pathset needed no changes), and the other package is "any" arch, so that shouldn't be a problem either.
<Begasus> ok :) but I'm not testing that either :D
<BrunoSpr> I like that Haiku Desktop Logo: https://0x0.st/XsLt.png
<jmairboeck> let's see if a problem arises when it is finished
<BrunoSpr> Hello all
<jmairboeck> but don't expect anything too soon
<Begasus> Hi BrunoSpr
<BrunoSpr> The logo would be better in Gray, but I just did a fast mockup
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<Begasus> bugger jmairboeck ... Error: problem 1: package gd_devel-2.3.3-4 requires devel:libtiff>=6.0.2, but none of the providers can be installed
<jmairboeck> I think I had that too. We have 2 different versions of libtiff I think
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<Begasus> yeah
<jmairboeck> Begasus: I'm not sure if leaving out 32 bit would even work, because texlive is "any" which means it gets built for 32 bit anyway, and I'm not sure if mixing different versions of texlive and texlive_core would work
<Begasus> it won't be a problem on the buildmaster though
<Begasus> right there jmairboeck, brain isn't functional the last days :)
* Anarchos found icons on data/artkwork/icons which are not used throughout the OS but nice to use for personal use
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<Begasus> grabbing texlive_core-2024-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/texlive_core-2024-1-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus> a bit over 10 minutes :)
<Begasus> batchrename add-on doesn't work as you mentioned jmairboeck
<jmairboeck> it took a bit longer on my old system
<jmairboeck> so axeld has to build it with gcc2?
<Anarchos> Begasus jmairboeck i still have my quad-core i3 available if you need it
<Begasus> if possible
<Begasus> afk for a while
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<Begasus> re
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<BrunoSpr> hiay all
<BrunoSpr> what means: afk ?
<BrunoSpr> and what re?
<BrunoSpr> Would be nice to have clue in the help or about window
<nosycat> Away From Keyboard, and Returned, or sometimes Referring to.
<BrunoSpr> nosycat, ah ok will note that, thanks
<nosycat> These are old acronyms used in chats.
<BrunoSpr> Yes, but sometimes I don't know
<BrunoSpr> are there all english?
<nosycat> What do you mean?
<BrunoSpr> each language has their accrnyms
<BrunoSpr> shortcuts
<BrunoSpr> not everybody knows them
<nosycat> Right, but I mean, they're not exactly formal terms.
<BrunoSpr> would be good to have a pop-up or a help file
<nosycat> Not sure where you can find a cheat sheet.
<BrunoSpr> no good idea to force the new user to search for each akkro
<BrunoSpr> we can do that in "Vision"?
<BrunoSpr> for example
<nosycat> I'm not sure, sorry. Haven't looked at it carefully. But I don't see how. It's just an IRC client.
<nosycat> Wiktionary has a category called "English text messaging slang".
<BrunoSpr> Just my idea to make things easier
<nosycat> Maybe you can find something by searching that phrase.
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<BrunoSpr> In Vision you can mark a word and search for it's akkronym by right click...
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<nosycat> Interesting!
<BrunoSpr> Most HAIKU user should know...
<BrunoSpr> nwo
<BrunoSpr> no way out...
<nosycat> I only use Haiku on a little netbook that sits in its bag most of the time, sorry.
<nosycat> See, I didn't know that one.
<BrunoSpr> but it shows new world order...
<BrunoSpr> it is not correct always...
<Anarchos> BrunoSpr should know what ?
<nosycat> That's probably another meaning of it.
<BrunoSpr> the function to use right-click a word
<nosycat> HexChat just opens a copy of the main menu if I do that.
<BrunoSpr> np I just think about a way for understanding us all better
<nosycat> Ask questions. ;)
<BrunoSpr> double click on a word to get answers is nice, but it could be better...
<BrunoSpr> Would be nice to have this all over HAIKU
<nosycat> We're right here.
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<Begasus> re (for a bit) :)
<nosycat> o/
<Begasus> 'lo nosycat
<Begasus> what's "np" :D
<nosycat> No problem?
<Begasus> ;)
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<droux> Hi, everyone! I'm Diego Roux, CS & EE student; I'm interested in working on 'Hardware acceleration for Haiku's QEMU port' for the GSoC '24. I'll share my proposal (and timeline) later on, as well as a better introduction for myself, I'll appreciate all feedback. I know I'm quite late for this, apologies offered. Has anyone shown interest for this project idea? And, if possible, I'm looking for suggestions
<droux> for my initial code contribution, where's help needed as of right now?
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<nosycat> Hi! I can't help you, sorry, but welcome!
<Begasus> No help here too, welcome :)
<Begasus> but seeing you got something planned I guess you find the ideas page
<Begasus> best bet maybe the mailing list?
<droux> I'll try the mailing list, then. Thanks everyone :)
<Begasus> good luck :)
<nosycat> I could swear there's a GSOC page there.
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<nosycat> Thank you!
<Begasus> wrote those 2 down in case :)
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<droux> Thanks, i'll check them out
<nosycat> Good luck!
<nosycat> And thanks. Haiku needs all the help it can get.
<Begasus> +1
<Begasus> afk again :)
<droux> No need, this project really caught my eye. Most likely, even after GSoC, I'll be around here, when my free time allows it :)
<nosycat> Good to hear!
<droux> I'll be afk now, but thanks for your help. I'll probably give an update with my project proposal, if interested.
<nosycat> Sure thing!
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<nosycat> Qemu is very useful to me in Linux, so that's kind of important.
<Anarchos> droux i think there is already a proposal for nvmm
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<droux> :/ it does look like it, could've sworn i checked. Thanks! I'll look for something else to work on, then.
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<PulkoMandy> droux: Hello, I confirm there is already someone planning to work on porting nvmm, but we can probably accept other related ideas. Maybe working on the "opposite" side of virtualization, writing/improving drivers for virtio devices, "guest addition" things such as shared clipboards, etc
<PulkoMandy> So let us know if you would be interested in something like that
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<droux> PulkoMandy, thanks for the confirmation, sure, I'm interested. Also, thought about 'btrfs filesystem', saw you listed as possible mentor; if there's a preference or a higher need for that, let me know.
<PulkoMandy> Not really, I think. Well I don't use btrfs myself, but I occasionally use Haiku in virtual machines
<PulkoMandy> Anyway, the "possible mentors" list is not necessarily accurate or complete, and if you get selected we'll find a mentor for you in any case (and I won't mentor more than one student, so it is likely to be someone else)
<droux> Oh, ok, thanks.
<bitigchi[m]> PulkoMandy, isn't the pkgman resize behaviour standard CLI behaviour when resized?
<bitigchi[m]> When downsized the buffer simply expires
<PulkoMandy> To make a mess over dozen of lines in the terminal? I don't think that's standard behavior
<PulkoMandy> And even if it is, it's not such a great idea anyways
<droux> PulkoMandy, I'll look into the VirtIO device drivers, if that looks good.
<bitigchi[m]> Sounds like subjective to me
<PulkoMandy> Yes, you may want to contact korli for that one, I think he worked on it quite a bit
<bitigchi[m]> As long as the resize continues, it will simply populate the scrollback buffer with the updated progress bar lines
<droux> Thanks, will do :)
<bitigchi[m]> If it was a TUI application, yes, but I don't know a way to fix it
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<bitigchi[m]> I don't think it is possible to fix this when displaying content in a line-based buffer
<bitigchi[m]> It is the same behaviour in wget and apt
<bitigchi[m]> Or any line based program for that matter
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<Anarchos> the unittests target fails for me.
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<Begasus> closing down here
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<Anarchos> nice icons for development hard drives : https://0x0.st/XsOr.png
<kallisti5[m]> "image cannot be displayed because it contains errors
<Anarchos> it is a screenshot i cropped with wonderbrush
<kallisti5[m]> $ file XsOr.png
<kallisti5[m]> XsOr.png: data
<kallisti5[m]> HMF1
<kallisti5[m]> looks like you exported the native wonderbush and call it png or something
<Anarchos> kallisti5[m] i did save as png
<kallisti5[m]> don't shoot the messenger :-) it's not a png
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<coolcoder613_32> My VMS community license just arrived
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<phschafft> :))
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<augiedoggie_> set def [ewww]
* augiedoggie_ really hates filesystem navigation on VMS
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57668] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5b5c8f7d414f+%5Ece01e4ea9b7f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5b5c8f7d414f - ffmpeg: update to ffmpeg 6
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<B2IA> (BeShare Admin) howdy
<B2IA> (BeShare Admin) beshare.tycomsystems.com should be showing up
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<bjorkintosh> coolcoder613_32, what hardware are you running VMS on?
<Anarchos> finally i made some progress in my math verifier due to a big refactoring
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<_leosma> anoyone managed to get conda running on haiku?
<_leosma> trying to daily drive it, but still missing some software
<phschafft> coolcoder613_32: strangly I never had VMS. but I'm kind of a DEC person. even had a Alpha in operation for many years.
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