<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes dcecea3 - kblocks: bump version
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
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<OscarL>
morning Begasus.
<Begasus>
Hola OscarL
<Begasus>
up on a Sunday, not used with you :)
<OscarL>
having a bit of a fight with Terminal since yesterday :-)
<Begasus>
who's winning? <gr>
<OscarL>
Problems with network, storms, power-losses, and darn misleading code from no other than 2008 Ingo. Not my best night :-D
<OscarL>
but... slooooowly getting there, I think. But... it is frustrating being this dump.
<OscarL>
s/dump/dumb/
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<Begasus>
know the feeling, bump into there myself often enough, luckely for me I'm mostly not alone on those parts :)
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<Begasus>
moin nephele
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<nephele>
Hello Begasus
<Begasus>
coffe cups, check (preparing at the dogschool for duty) :)
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<OscarL>
Can't use SHIFT+Up/Down or SHIFT+OPT+Up/Down for scrolling. The first needs to go for text-selection, the latter doesn't works with Left-OPT-as-Meta (and using Shift+Right-OPT+Up/Down... is a PITA :-D).
<nephele>
I didn't understand a word, but i'm sure you are right
<OscarL>
augiedoggie better comes out with some good suggestions :-P
<OscarL>
hi nephele. trying to un-screw augiedoggie's Terminal.
<nephele>
hi OscarL
<nephele>
:)
<OscarL>
while also taking humdinger's suggestions into account.
<augiedoggie>
heh, i wouldn't worry about it too much, i was just reporting the bug, i've already moved the shortcut back to shift key :P
<Begasus>
heh
<nephele>
Well, maintaining and Improving a tty emulator that should have been dead 30 years ago doesn't sound like a thankfull task ;)
<Begasus>
nice, back on par for a full-sync now :D
<OscarL>
and I didn't even got that trout augiedoggie "promised".
* OscarL
wants free fish!
<nephele>
well, they were debating bug report or fish, and i convinced them bug
<nephele>
so you ain't getting no fish, no sir
<OscarL>
:-(
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
biab, smoke ...
<nephele>
you can get dark mode for trac though if you want
<OscarL>
that would be nice to have while using Trac from Haiku, yes.
<nephele>
why only from Haiku? :g
<OscarL>
I cheat, and use DarkReader on Firefox :-)
<OscarL>
far from perfect, better than nothing.
<nephele>
I don't use any of such "dark reader" addons because they don't support the normal dark mode
<nephele>
so basically just make websites with a proper dark mode worse, and gives authors an excuse to say "lol just install this addon"
<OscarL>
yeah... I just disable it for the ones that actually provide a proper dark theme.
<OscarL>
So... one can't get KeyDown() events for keys pressed along with B_COMMMAND_KEY, right? (I even tried testing against `modifiers()`)
<OscarL>
Be Book says so... buuut... this particular KeyDown() method I'm monkeying with... HAD checks on it for B_COMMAND_KEY.
<OscarL>
Code there since 2008, by no other than Ingo.
<OscarL>
Begasus: yeah... that gives me some head-aches from time to time. That's why I try to remind myself to do "test-install" only via `pkgman -H`
* OscarL
wonders if using B_CONTROL_KEY+Up/Down for scrolling will break something else.
<nephele>
sure
<nephele>
it will break your mind
<Begasus>
mm .. haven't used that in a long time OscarL, maybe should do that too, if foo-3.2.1 is in ~ and foo-1.2.3 is in system, will the one in home take first run?
<Begasus>
arghh :/
<OscarL>
Begasus: I know I did used it a couple of times to "override" an older system Python version. But I should double check.
<OscarL>
Begasus: most of the time (always?) I use -H, I need to start a new bash session for the commands to become available, thou.
<OscarL>
nephele: that's my secret... my mind is already/always broken :-D
<OscarL>
Begasus: for a similar problem like yours (but with just about ~10 packages), I ended up just moving them from /system/packages/ to ~/config/packages (using "mv" from shell), then I removed the activated packages from system, and rebooted.
<OscarL>
nephele: looks better than what DarkReader gives me. +2 :-)
<nephele>
I doubt DarkReader would try to modify the layout of the top row either :)
<OscarL>
bit weird pink/purple on the checkboxes, but... nicely readable.
<nephele>
Ignore that. That's just MacOS native controls
<OscarL>
I see.
<Begasus>
at this rate I won't have anything to update again .... uninstalling process :/
<OscarL>
I just cancel that, and move things manually anyway, but... that's just silly me :-D
<OscarL>
but yeah... even if `update` bails out... `full-sync` should just override the files, I think.
<nephele>
override them?
<OscarL>
yes, when it gives you that "failed to commit transaction" / "name in use" error
<nephele>
full-sync just deletes files it can't obtain from the repo
<nephele>
what files do you think it would overide?
<OscarL>
happens when you try to run pkgman update/full-sync and you have locally built packages with the same name as the one on the server.
<nephele>
no, it just deletes those because they are unobtainable from the server
<nephele>
it doesn't overide anything
<Begasus>
about 300 packages removed, one to update: upgrade package libavif1.0-1.0.4-1 to 1.0.4-1 from repository HaikuPorts
<Begasus>
and still "name in use"
<Begasus>
me slaps pkgman so hard!!!!
<OscarL>
nephele: welp, whatever the process, sometimes you get that "name in use", and it is a pain in the rear to resolve.
<OscarL>
humdinger's latest ticket almost gave me a heart-attack... then I rememberd that I haven't yet pushed my "TermView::HyperLinkState::_GetHyperLinkAt()" changes, so... can't be my fault :-D
<nephele>
then debug where that comes from...
<Begasus>
that's gonna be a big cleanup
<OscarL>
nephele: easy... just need to get me a functioning brain. One of these days!
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<Begasus>
reboot
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<nephele>
"blocked by scanblock"
<nephele>
I guess my trac development is evil
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<nephele>
.-.
<OscarL>
ha! I thought I was the only one getting those.
<OscarL>
that scanblok thing is a bit moody.
<OscarL>
Mmm, seems I do need to unshallow my clone. How big is the ".git" folder for a full Haiku clone?
<nephele>
well, i'll not develop trac further now then
<OscarL>
nephele: kallisti5 *might* do something about it? (it at least tried when I complained :-D)
<nephele>
"it"?
* OscarL
can't English.
<PulkoMandy>
Yes, we have a spamblocker that block all spam and also most normal users
<PulkoMandy>
Great way to handle spam... It also lets some spam get through by the way
<nephele>
I think scanblock is against scrappers, not spammers
<OscarL>
nephele: you sure you're not a bot? double-check, please!
<PulkoMandy>
And unlike the other antispam systems already present in trac, only sysadmins who manag the infrastructure can do anything about it
<nephele>
i'm dutch
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<OscarL>
Should scrolling in Terminal be CMD+Up/Down (for one line scrolling) and CMD+PgUp/PgDn for page-at-a-time?
<OscarL>
I've already made CMD+lef/right switch tabs, and Shift+CMD+left/right move tabs, but not sure I can do a good job moving the scrolling to use CMD :-/
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<PulkoMandy>
Don't people have a mousewheel for these things?
* nephele
has a mousewheel but doesn't use it because "mouse3 to paste" keeps accidentally beeing triggered in terminal and it scrolls down again
* OscarL
has mice with two wheels, still needs to fix Terminal scrolling shortcuts, so he can add MORE escape codes :-)
<Begasus>
nephele, congrats! :)
<nephele>
Begasus: thanks
<OscarL>
humdinger better review my patchset this time... or else! :-P
<nephele>
clearly the most important thing: the developer badge in discourse, is missing :P
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
so aggressive today? :D
<OscarL>
mmm, commit message looks terrible on Gerrit :-/
<Begasus>
too bad those arent always checked correctly ... libVersion isn't always the same as portVersion ...
<Begasus>
correcting that one will have issues downstream :/
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<BrunoSpr>
hello all
<OscarL>
Good Sunday, BrunoSpr.
<Begasus>
Hi BrunoSpr
<PulkoMandy>
nephele: Badge added on the forum and also gave you r
<PulkoMandy>
moderator permissions and access to the "staff" area (we don't use it a lot, except for disoussing blocking and other sanctions for annoying forum users)
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<OscarL>
I'm a lousy typist, but randomly setting the keymap to Coleman, certainly doesn't helps :-/
<OscarL>
Mmm, I'm seeing Brazilian and Croatian keymaps on beta4, but no such files under src/data/keymaps.
<OscarL>
ah... jamfile holds some secrets!
<nephele>
PulkoMandy: thanks :), though I hope not to need the moderation tools too much
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 82fccfe - kgoldrunner: bump version
<BrunoSpr>
The files in "Settings" should all be upper-case and with Haiku typical writing, like: WebPositive, WebKit, WonderBrush, ShowFoto, difficilt is a file like TeXstudio! Should be TexStudio?
<HaikuUser2>
So I got Haiku running on a T470 of the 20JN model series (lower end device, i5-6200U processor with IHD 520 graphics). Wrote up what works and what not etc, but forums don't let me do so (using Falkon).
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 73a450b - Update lwtools and gcc-6809
<HaikuUser2>
Ah nvm it worked in WebPositive but not in Falkon.
<nephele>
Did you have a specific issue the forum gave you? as in error message or so?
<HaikuUser2>
No. I just clicked on create topic button, and it shows that the button registers the click, but it didn't do anything. As if it were a dummy button.
<HaikuUser2>
Ironically, worked with WebPositive as mentioned, so I presume it's something related to Falkon.
<Begasus>
I don't think it is HaikuUser2, I see it visa versa sometimes
<Begasus>
sometimes I create a post in Web+ and need to save it in Falkon, or the other way round, think it's something discuss related?
<HaikuUser2>
Yeah Begasus, it's like the exact opposite for me. I can make a draft in Falkon, but need Web+ to create the topic...
<Begasus>
right, happens quite frequently
<Begasus>
ps, you can change your nick in the channel here with "/nick new_nick"
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<nephele>
Wierd. I've not had either issue
<Begasus>
Better, thanks :)
<BeThink>
Ah, much better, thanks. Haven't really used IRC since 2010 or so...
<nephele>
if it happens in WebPositive feel free to open a ticket? maybe with the js console log
<Begasus>
happens a lot here nephele, so thought it was a common thing with the forum backbone
<Begasus>
for instance, got the same on the KDE discuss forum (using same software)
<nephele>
I've never had this. So please report it, otherwise I won't fix it ;)
<Begasus>
if it happens at other forums not sure if it's a local thing? :)
<nephele>
It doesn't happen in Safari for me... sooo
<nephele>
:)
<Begasus>
that's cheating :P
<nephele>
How so?
<Begasus>
Safari can't be used in Haiku ;)
<nephele>
It's both webkit, i can compare if something is a problem in webkit or in the website
<nephele>
so far, never webkit, always haikuwebkit :D
<Begasus>
I think* it's the forum software
<Begasus>
Tokodon is crashing on me now :/
<BeThink>
Anyways, that was all, cya
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<win8linux[m]>
<nephele> "It doesn't happen in Safari..." <- That's the weird thing though, websites may not be broken on Safari but are broekn elsewhere (i.e. HaikuWebKit, WebKitGTK, etc.).
<win8linux[m]>
s/broekn/broken/
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<win8linux[m]>
Even on the same WebKit versions.
<nephele>
win8linux[m]
<nephele>
Please don't use the matrix reply function
<nephele>
and Honestly, no it isn't wierd. Webkit is a complex piece of software, and since it *ISN'T* build as a blackbox platform specific parts can pop out
<nephele>
also, webkit has a nice list of evil websites it just applies workarounds to, because they are broken :D
<Vidrep_64>
/boot/home/haikuwebkit/Source/WebCore/platform/graphics/haiku/FontCustomPlatformData.cpp: In function 'WTF::RefPtr<WebCore::FontCustomPlatformData> WebCore::createFontCustomPlatformData(SharedBuffer&, const WTF::String&)':
<Vidrep_64>
/boot/home/haikuwebkit/Source/WebCore/platform/graphics/haiku/FontCustomPlatformData.cpp:51:40: error: call of overloaded 'LoadFont(area_id&, size_t, int)' is ambiguous
<Vidrep_64>
51 | status_t result = font.LoadFont(area, buffer.size(), 0);
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 54cf350 - psutil, bump version (#10157)
<Vidrep_64>
I've noticed a change in font size on certain pages
<Vidrep_64>
Really tiny
<Vidrep_64>
Haiku home is OK, but forums are so small
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<nephele>
apart from the spam monitoring log the haiku trac dark mode is now finished
<nephele>
any devs using dark mode that care about the spam log?
<Vidrep_64>
nephele, congrats about getting commit access
<nephele>
Thank you Vidrep_64 :)
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<Begasus[m]>
Hi there Vidrep_64 :-)
<Begasus>
biab
<Vidrep_64>
Hi Begasus
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<PulkoMandy>
Vidrep_64: The font size change is a bug if your haiku and webpositive are out of sync. Maybe after updating you need to reset the font size in webpositive preferences
<Vidrep_64>
Thanks, I'll try that
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<bitigchi[m]>
PulkoMandy: when you have a moment could you chime in why idle
<bitigchi[m]>
I looked at everything I could relate but I’m not seeing it
<nephele>
I kind of want a memory profiler to figure out how webpositive keeps using gigabytes of ram
<nephele>
perhaps with webkit2 that problem disapears or becomes much easier to diagnose
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<PulkoMandy>
I don't see why either of these things would happen with webkit2
<nephele>
The "leaking" part of the memory should dissapear if it's localized in only one process of webkit
<nephele>
that is, i can reclaim the memory by just closing the ofending tab
<nephele>
and as for diagnosing: I could figure out which tab is the one exhibiting the problem, and diagnose only that one :)
<OscarL>
PriyanshuGupta[m]: Your last patchset didn't include any code change. Maybe you forgot to use `git add` before `git commit --amend` and `git push` ?
<PulkoMandy>
You can use one website at a time and keep an exe on activitymonitor memory use already :)
<nephele>
activitymonitor doesn't really tell me where the memory is going :D
<nephele>
debuggin webkit as it is now is a bit difficult, if it's more split up it could be more viable
<nephele>
or maybe I just don't try hard enough with the current state
<nephele>
PulkoMandy: what does !! mean for returning a value? In your build fix that is done. But i don't understand the reason, isn't that just "not not" then, and a no-op?
<PulkoMandy>
It converts the value to a boolean
<phschafft>
I don't know the code in question, but it's often used to force a cast to bool.
<nephele>
Ah okay. That seems a bit hacky :D
<PulkoMandy>
I don't remember what it was, but something that defines an operator! (returning bool) but not a way to cast to bool directly
<OscarL>
https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/7456/ <<< commit message keeps reflecting change made on the latest patchset, instead of applying to the whole change in general.
<OscarL>
sounds like something worth pointing out there?
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] nielx 05217f4 - Rust: bump to 1.76.0 (#10184)
* OscarL
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<CalistoMathias>
Hey OscarL... sorry that I couldn't reply yesterday... was having a college event at the time that I couldn't miss.... Yup I did go through the comments that were given by Adrien and was planning to complete the rest of the document properly once my forum discussion reaches the stage where the idea gets a bit more refined. Adrien also did give me a list of resources, so I do plan on adding a section which will give a
<CalistoMathias>
list of resources that I plan on going through before I can actually start the development of the application. Thank you still :) for taking the time out to read it
<CalistoMathias>
Hopefully I can start learning the required things as early as possible before the development period starts so that I don't need to waste precious time in that period having to relearn everything from scratch because I'm pretty sure if I do make it in, as I go along there will definitely be a lottt of hurdles... so I guess I need to plan accordingly
<CalistoMathias>
Probably should add that into the proposal as well :D
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* augiedoggie
thinks the package builder should avoid creating a git repo for a port with no patches
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<augiedoggie>
i think it took 30 minutes to create the git repo for the rust build :P
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