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<OscarL> Darn VirtualBox "VBoxGuest_RTMem(void*)" PANIC KDL at boot :-)
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* OscarL curses build systems that assume you're building from a .git repo.
<Al2O3> scanty howdie
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<OscarL> Great, even Terminal gets borked, and I can't copy its output :-D
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<coolcoder613> Is there a `at` command for Haiku?
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<OscarL> coolcoder613: I only see what the `cronie` package provides. Maybe you can write a /bin/at and donate it to Haiku?
<OscarL> (assuming that cronie thing doesn't fits your needs)
<OscarL> coolcoder613: or port the one from OpenBSD? :-D https://github.com/openbsd/src/tree/master/usr.bin/at
<HaikuUser> Is there an authoritative place to find the bit layouts of the B_RGB* etc "colorspaces"?
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<aazam[m]> Good morning :)
<OscarL> Bah, too late to reply to AlaskanEmily2: /boot/system/develop/headers/os/interface/GraphicsDefs.h
<OscarL> hey there aazam[m].
<aazam[m]> For the BPoint::PrintToStream() to display commas for local langs, can we simply just use
<aazam[m]> `setlocale(LC_NUMERIC, "");`
* OscarL quickly reads https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/locale/setlocale before replying.
<OscarL> Sounds about right, in my (*freshly acquired*) expert opinion :-P
<OscarL> but take anything I say with a bucket of salt, just in case :-D
<aazam[m]> Yes Yes :v
<OscarL> On the other hand.... shouldn't that setlocale() be set elsewhere already?
<OscarL> you are lookint at BPoint::PrintToStream(), right? this method? https://xref.landonf.org/source/xref/haiku/src/kits/interface/Point.cpp#33
<aazam[m]> Yes, correct
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<OscarL> Adjusting the % formatting should be enough to get the decimal printed at least.
<OscarL> Not sure if it will already use the proper locale settings.
<aazam[m]> The % formatting is done, just replaced the 0f with 2f
<OscarL> but just removign those ".0" from the formatting, and then testing sounds reasonable to me.
<aazam[m]> Yes
<OscarL> %2f ? what happens if the point is in a 4k screen?
<OscarL> I'd go for the old and trusty "%f", and call it a day :-)
<aazam[m]> you mean %.2f right?
<aazam[m]> That works too
<OscarL> there are some new API additions to set the desired precision in decimal/currencies/etc, but that's pretty fresh. For PrintToStream (basically a debugging helper), I think plain %f is reasonable.
<aazam[m]> Yeah, I was reading about the API additions yesterday
<aazam[m]> But as you said for a debug helper it shouldn't matter as much
<OscarL> or at least can be improved further in the future if needed :-)
<OscarL> Mmm, BPoint doesn't seems to have a unit-test under /src/tests/kits/interface.
<OscarL> maybe adding a simple one could be a good idea? (can test that PrintToStream() call there :-D)
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<aazam[m]> Sure, I'll try that as well
<OscarL> a basic one seems pretty straight forward that even *I* was able to just add a short one :-)
<OscarL> and it is my first time trying to do so. Ask around if you get stuck at any point.
<aazam[m]> The directory name of the test will be bpoint but what do I name the test file specifically? PrinttoStreamTestor PointTest?
<OscarL> I would just add a PointTest.cpp file under "src/tests/kits/interface"
<aazam[m]> that keeps it simple
<OscarL> you can just simply add a "main()" funtion to it, as other "SimpleTest" do in that directory.
<OscarL> See ScreenTest.cpp, for example, but you don't need most of that. Just instantiate a BPoint variable, PrintToStream() to show that its values are 0/0, change both point.x/point.y, PrintToStream() again.
<OscarL> That would be my quick-and-dirty version :-)
<aazam[m]> Alrighty lemme try it
<OscarL> To add it to the build system... look into the "Jamfile" in that directory...
<OscarL> copy what any of the "SimpleTest" do.
<OscarL> as in... just add a new SimpleText to Jamfile, that references PointTest / PointTest.cpp.
<OscarL> for quick tests, without using jam, you can of course just compile your test with "gcc -o PointTest PointTest.cpp -lbe"
<OscarL> (but that would be using the libbe.so that its installed in the system, not the one with your changes in %f formatting)
<aazam[m]> I see.
<OscarL> Adding it to the Jamfile, and then using something like "jam -q -j4 PointTest", should compile/link things propertly
<aazam[m]> Adding it to Jamfile seems rather straightforward
<OscarL> I'm not *exactly* sure if PointTest will find the updated libbe.so right away, of if more "incantations" are needed...
<OscarL> puting both "PointTest" and a "./lib/libbe.so" next to it in the same dir, should work thou.
<OscarL> Hopefully real devs will wake up soon, and assist you better than I can :-)
<aazam[m]> I'll try to get the test done atleast
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<OscarL> Hey Begasus.
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<Begasus[m]> Hola Oscar-L :)
<OscarL> damn ghosts in the matrix! :-P
<Begasus[m]> It's easy to read back here :P
<Begasus> no need to open whitequark anymore ;)
<OscarL> So... it seems /dev/misc/poke had another user I didn't know about? (pciutils).
<Begasus> yeah, did he get in contact with you?
<OscarL> not yet.
<Begasus> probably timezone
<OscarL> test-driving an updated pciutils-3.11.1 right now.
<OscarL> should probably just upstream extrowerk's patch for it.
<Begasus> +1
<OscarL> heh, "cmd:setpci" not testing that one for now (forgot what's safe to touch on PCI config space)
<Begasus> messed up system before? ;)
<OscarL> plenty of fun when writting poke, and using it to tests drivers and such.
<OscarL> plenty of crashes, parts of the screen turning green, too :-P
<Begasus> create basic setup in vm, clone and then you can f* up that one :)
<OscarL> the less funs: just system freezing.
<OscarL> new cmd:pcilmr on pciutils. I have no idea what it does.
<Begasus> man pcilmr?
<OscarL> not doing much on Haiku (or at least on this VM).
<OscarL> Begasus: I have no idea what's for AFTER reading the man page :-P
<OscarL> "Links with Lane Margining at the Receiver capabilities:" / "Links not found or you don't have enough privileges."
<OscarL> at least doesn't seems to break anything :-P
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> k, thanks to jmairboeck I now have to rewrite the KF5 recipes here :P
<OscarL> srcGitRev vs release tarballs?
<Begasus> all 93 recipes :P
<OscarL> ouch.
<Begasus> it's not a srcGitRev :)
<Begasus> tagged releases at gitlab
<OscarL> ah, same thing with github then. "releases preferable", but... sometimes they left you with no choice :-D
<Begasus> I was just going through the projects there, also got some PR upstreamed at their gitlab, hence I stayed around :)
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<Begasus> well, it's not really gitlab :)
<Begasus> heh, it is (backbone)
<OscarL> "KDE Invent (Gitlab)"
<OscarL> they used to use Phabricator in the past, if I'm not mistaken. That one looked nice to me.
<Begasus> 92 to go ... ;)
<Begasus> OscarL, checked pciutils on gcc2 also?
<OscarL> not yet.
<OscarL> When I do, I indicate so on the PR description.
<Begasus> OK, not making the same mistake on merging a gcc2 enabled recipe that turns out to be broken :P
<Begasus> booting 32bit
<Begasus> should make some finetuning there (new install)
<Begasus> The icons in Pe could use an update, still holding the BeOS ones I think
<OscarL> I'm still using small icons, and my sight keeps getting worse all the time so... I prolly wouldn't notice much difference :-P
<OscarL> updating 32 bits repo... this might take a while.
<Begasus> system update on 32bit here too
<OscarL> not updating system here, just git pull upstream is slow enough :-D
<Begasus> haven't touched that yet ;)
<Begasus> dogs in a bit
<OscarL> running hp pciutils, let's see how it goes.
<OscarL> yeah, parse errors all around :-D
<OscarL> let me just axe gcc2 from this thing once and for all.
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<PriyanshuGupta[m]> hi everyone
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> morning
<OscarL> Good morning PriyanshuGupta[m].
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<OscarL> AlaskanEmily3: regarding your earlier question...
<OscarL> "04:54 <OscarL> Bah, too late to reply to AlaskanEmily2: /boot/system/develop/headers/os/interface/GraphicsDefs.h"
<coolcoder613> Hi PriyanshuGupta[m]
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<Begasus> re
<Begasus> Hi PriyanshuGupta[m]
<Begasus> Hi coolcoder613
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<OscarL> "pciutils_data" another fbrosson special, I see.
<Begasus> cought my eye too just now :)
<Begasus> plop!
<Begasus> parse errors :P
<OscarL> yes, I'll just move it to x86, but that damn _data split is getting in the way :-)
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<Begasus> used by "hw_probe", so check that also :)
<phschafft> good morning.
<OscarL> meh... let korli handle the breakage! :-P
<phschafft> always the same faces no matter the time of day.
<Begasus> good old phschafft also ;)
* OscarL puts his El Zorro mask.
<OscarL> better?
<phschafft> better.
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> can someone recommend any resources for how file content and extents are managed inside inode
<Begasus> El Zero?
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) time of the day 18:24
<phschafft> we have a fan heater called 'El Temperator'. and I must say it's the mother of all fan heaters. (comes with a 32A three phase plug ;)
* OscarL threatens Begasus with the famous El Zorro whip.
<Begasus> never heard of it :P
<OscarL> You'll hear it soon enough if I catch you! :-)
<Begasus> heh
* phschafft makes random whipping sounds. that is cream whipping.
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<OscarL> PriyanshuGupta[m]: not seeing much besides some mentions on https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/docs/develop/file_systems/xfs.rst, and I don't know where else to look, sorry.
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<OscarL> PriyanshuGupta[m]: one of the real devs surely will have better answers. Keep trying at different timezones, or ask in the forum or mailing list too.
<OscarL> mmm korli's 150 repos, thanks for GitHub search repos fuction :-P
<gordonjcp> gruss gott
<gordonjcp> bit of a weird one this morning, my laptop wouldn't respond to keypresses or trackpad/trackpoint movement
<gordonjcp> booted Haiku off a USB stick, worked fine
<gordonjcp> rebooted into the install, worked fine
<gordonjcp> it worked with an external mouse and keyboard before I booted off USB
<gordonjcp> "one of those things" eh
<OscarL> Grüß Gott, mister... we speak UTF-8 down here! (had to look that one up, /me barely speaks Spanish and some English :-P)
<Begasus> Guten Morgen gordonjcp :)
<OscarL> gordonjcp: you where asking for APIs to do PCI enumeration, right?
<coolcoder613> Morgen? not here (7:42 pm)
<phschafft> gordonjcp: Ei gude, wie?
<Begasus> This is getting confusing ... :)
* OscarL will start typing gibberish and try to convince people it is a real language.
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) 6:42 pm, sun is going down
<Begasus> OscarL, compared to? :P
<OscarL> my typing a few days ago when I had half a bottle of wine, but forgot I had taken a myorelaxant the day before? :-D
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) Gibberish - spoken on the Island of Gibber, where the Gibberoen people live happy but confused lives
<OscarL> boy... THAT was hard to read :-D
<Begasus> lol
<coolcoder613> lol
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) T H A T, not so difficult to read...
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<OscarL> ah... it was "gibsonpil" the one asking about PCI enumeration. started with "g" close enough... I've done worse :-P
<OscarL> Begasus: korli's "hw-probe" seem to just need "cmd:lspci" (provided by pciutils). We should be good moving to x86.
<OscarL> (famous last words)
<Begasus> I'll let him be the judge :)
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) ...written on the tomb of the unknown coder
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<Begasus> ok, this seems to work :D
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<Begasus> k, if we can't have theming for Vision I'll just save the settings file with different names :D
<Begasus> save/copy*
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) Flash Gordon once defeeted TheMing... but not for Vision
<Begasus> short term solution :)
<Begasus> biab
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<scops_> hey :)
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) ho
<scops_> just a question; is there a how to tu connect to cifs/smb shares? i installed the old fuse packages - and created a fusesmb.conf but nothing is listed on the desktop
<Begasus> re
<OscarL> scops_: IIRC, only SMB1 is supported. And Win pretty much have that disabled in favor of newer versions.
<Begasus> k, 'bout to brake my KF6 install :P
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<scops_> thanks, OscarL :( i will try sshfs next to connect to my nas
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<OscarL> too late to mention that some folks use their NAS with NFS4.
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<scops_> re...
<scops_> i assume sshfs via fuse doesn't work either?
<OscarL> I've heard a few users say they do use sshfs, but I do not know the details.
<OscarL> I've read of users using their NAS with NFS4 too (some info on the forums might come in handy there).
<OscarL> coolcoder613: you use sshfs, no?
<scops_> NFS would be also an option for me ... hm
<coolcoder613> I use sshfs to Haiku, not from Haiku
<OscarL> scops_: apparently, something like this should work for NFS4: `mount -t nfs4 -p "192.168.1.253:/my_folder" /boot/home/Desktop/mount_point`
<scops_> ^^" yeah this works nicely
<scops_> thanks... i try it
<OscarL> scops_: some other user reports needing to drop the "" around the IP:/folder, so... YMMV.
<scops_> "mount: invalid argument" ô.o
<scops_> my fault... works :)
<phschafft> found the right horse?
<phschafft> no wonder I prefer 4:3.
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<OscarL> Begasus: hw-probe seems to still function OK with my changes to the pciutil recipe. Will re-test recipe on 64 bits.
<OscarL> working well on 64 bits too.
<Begasus> fine, thnx for checking OscarL
<Begasus> good to go then?
<OscarL> np Begasus. Thanks for the reminder-kudge to test on gcc2 :-)
<OscarL> looks good to me at least :-)
<Begasus> with 64bit up and running fine here I tend to forget/skip 32bit tests too :)
<Begasus> OscarL, maybe the BUILD() part can be skipped al together?
<OscarL> And then I can't use -F next time I need to fix INSTALL() ? :-P
<Begasus> tsss ... that shouldn't be a problem :P
<Begasus> INSTALL is just a copy of BUILD with an extra option "install"
<Begasus> works fine :P
<OscarL> yea, repeated command basically, because it doesn't has a ./configure to save the options for the make file.
<Begasus> kinda like some of the python recipes
<Begasus> oh nice, tests prints out system specs :P
<OscarL> "test" is a bit optimistic... it just runs the main command :-D
<OscarL> better than nothing, I guess.
<Begasus> thought so :)
<Begasus> ps, even without anything "hp pciutils --test" works fine too
<OscarL> want me to remove BUILD() for real? (I'll do it, but won't be testing all again, mind you! :-D)
<Begasus> just ran tests here :)
<Begasus> let me run it here again without BUILD
<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> re
<OscarL> build seems ok on 64 bits without BUILD().
<OscarL> do I push it?
<Begasus> yep
<OscarL> There you go.
<Begasus> not the only one skipping BUILD or using BUILD={true}
<OscarL> heh, upstream just merged the patch for pciutils :-)
<Begasus> nice! +1
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f441193b9758...bf2b58fb9900
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL bf2b58f - pciutils: update to version 3.11.1. (#10209)
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<Begasus> Hello dovsienko
<scops_> i must say... thanks to the guy fixed the haiku terminal (last checked about half a year ago...) now unicode emojis work nicely with for example gomuks running on a pi next to my haiku laptop x)
<dovsienko> hi all
<scops_> though, not all multibyte stuff but it is useable at least
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<OscarL> scops_: funny you mention that, coz we're having some emoji-issues :-D: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/10208 and https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/10158
<Begasus> I'm not ...
<scops_> for example multibyte stuff with amfora isn't displayed at all... yeah OscarL, it isn't perfect but better as nothing (like a few months back)
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<OscarL> Reading about multi-code-points emojis...
<OscarL> "Placing a man 👨, a woman 👩, a girl 👧 and a boy 👦 next to each other renders as a one family emoji. All concatenated with special joiner character."
* phschafft hears a something like 'in the good old days when a character had a fixed number of bits and that was 5' between the lines ;)
<OscarL> "👨👩👧👦" liars! where's my family emoji? /me wants his money back.
<OscarL> copy/pasting emojis in Terminal is pretty much broken too.
<Begasus> why would you use emojis in Terminal in the first place?
<OscarL> I woudln't but other people do.
<OscarL> and then tests fails, and you blame me :-P
<Begasus> wouldn't dare to .. aside from these :P
<OscarL> emoticons for life! :-D (specially the 3-chars ones)
<Begasus[m]> Or use one from the matrix 👪
<OscarL> at the font sizes I use... all emojis are just a blob of pixels to me.
<cyrusbuilt> morning all
<Begasus> noon cyrusbuilt
<OscarL> I think I have less problems distiguising CKJ chars than emojis :-D
<Begasus> lol
<cyrusbuilt> Begasus: Good work on KDevelop! I saw the screenshot last night as I was closing up my office
<Begasus> nothing new there cyrusbuilt (just the latest version), prior work was done by M3dEyes[m]
<cyrusbuilt> ah
<Begasus> well, not nothing ... you get my point :)
<cyrusbuilt> well my hats off to M3dEyes[m] too then
<Begasus> righto!
<dovsienko> Internet and Unicode were designed for missions more noble than pushing poor quality miniature pictures around the globe
<cyrusbuilt> Don't forget cat videos
<Begasus> cats? tsss
<dovsienko> to convey the idea of a family, just use the letters "f", "a", "m", "i", "l", "y" placed next to each other in the correct order and without any special joiner characters. this is a particular case of a generic concept called "word". this is the word "family". please take notes carefully and prepare for the next lesson of how to add 2 and 2...
<dovsienko> and do not leave the kindergarten until your responsible adults come to pick you up
<Begasus> LOL
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<Begasus> whoops, I broke it? :P Codeberg is currently unavailable for technical reasons.
<dovsienko> just as I thought Haiku build of tcpdump finally requires no more attention and it would be fine to forget about it for a while, it broke
<dovsienko> apparently, it finds pcap_findalldevs_ex() before compiling the code, but not at the time of linking, and only in a very specific combination of parameters...
<Begasus> back to the design board then dovsienko :)
<zard> Time to build haikuwebkit from scratch... again. I need a debug build, not a release build.
<zard> Probably going to take all day, just like last time
<Begasus> not that bad zard :)
<cyrusbuilt> Please forgive me if I'm about to ask a stupid question, but I've been gone for 4 years and trying to get re-acquainted with haikuports recipes...
<Begasus> fire away cyrusbuilt
<cyrusbuilt> I just pulled the latest source for GitQlient. I was able to build and run it without any patches at all. Looks like francescm removed the platform checks and such that necessitated the original patch I had. That being said, the current version (1.6.2) runs just fine without any modifications needed.
<Begasus> and the question is? ;)
<cyrusbuilt> That being said, to update the recipe, it seems like I need to: 1) delete the patchset. 2) Update the recipe with the URL to the latest tar file and bump the revision, etc. 3) Rename the recipe file with the current version?
<cyrusbuilt> Is that correct?
<Begasus> if you got $portVersion in the SOURCE_URI it's enough to rename the recipe with the correct version and drop the patchset
<Begasus> set REVISION to 1 (as it's a new version)
<cyrusbuilt> ah ok
<cyrusbuilt> Begasus: awesome. Thanks! I'll hopefully get a PR in to haikuports later today or tomorrow then. I gotta build and test the package and such after I finish testing the app and make sure there aren't any surprises in functionality.
<Begasus> +1 cyrusbuilt, I'll do some checking here too once you get the PR up :)
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<Begasus> bugger ... need to finish the KF6 frameworks before checking that up in KDevelop :)
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<OscarL> later folks. (zzzZZZzzz)
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<cyrusbuilt> I need to set up a VM with Haiku in it so I don't have to go to my basement to work on this. Maybe I'll do that first. I'm terrible about juggling my day job with 'extra curricular' work lol
<cyrusbuilt> Time to go get virtual box
<cyrusbuilt> oh wait. do they not have a macOS ARM build?
<cyrusbuilt> crap it's still in beta
<Begasus> doesn't mac have something like paralel?
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<cyrusbuilt> yeah. My employer bought me the business edition a while back, but the license needs upgraded. I don't currently have a valid reason to get that expendature approved though.
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> Just tell him Haiku is the future! :D
<cyrusbuilt> I installed the developer preview v7.0.8 of virtualbox for M-series macs, but the VM keeps crashing when the haiku iso starts booting up
<Begasus> :/
<cyrusbuilt> I have a linux laptop I can install virtualbox on here too though. Going that route.
<cyrusbuilt> Not a very beefy system though (core i3 w/8GB RAM)
<cyrusbuilt> Should be just good enough though. I think.
<cyrusbuilt> I'll give haiku 2 cores and 4GB
<Begasus> haven't looked into the source, so can't tell how many sources it needs :)
<Begasus> 96 packages ... getting closer ;)
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<cyrusbuilt> Sweet. Got the VM setup
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<Begasus> almost there then ;)
<cyrusbuilt> Yep. Installing all the software I need now
<Begasus> got a little script here I can use on new installs to setup all that's needed :)
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<cyrusbuilt> I prolly need to put together something like that
<Begasus> nowadays I just use an existing install if I need to do it over, saves me that step, but yeah, in the past it was handy
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<Begasus> bugger ... missed one in the list ...
<Begasus> done :)
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<jmairboeck> Hi Begasus! Sorry for causing you some extra work with my little pedantic review comments ...
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<Begasus> Hi jmairboeck, np, done now :)
<Begasus> at least for the frameworks :D
<gordonjcp> evening
<Begasus> evening gordonjcp
<Begasus> arived safely I gather? :)
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<Begasus> switching to dark mode :)
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<gordonjcp> yup
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<gordonjcp> just waiting for dinner in the hotel
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<Begasus> k, closing down here, enjoy your meal later gordonjcp :-)
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57638] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6034ee94a2f2+%5E6f1b41351e0b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6034ee94a2f2 - arm64: Use WFI for idling
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57639] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=93c6a62bee8d+%5E6034ee94a2f2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 93c6a62bee8d - arm64: Reset state in _fp_save to prevent it from affecting kernel
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57640] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=490d2ed4270d+%5E93c6a62bee8d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 490d2ed4270d - arm64: Remove arch_cpu_memory_read/write_barrier functions as they are not used anywhere
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<cyrusbuilt> Getting some weird build output with haikuporter. Working on the recipe for GitQlient. v1.6.2 builds and runs just fine from QTCreator and looks like I more or less have the recipe changes done, but I get: cp: target '/sources/GitQlient-1.6.2/BenchmarkTool': No such file or directory
<cyrusbuilt> Can't find any reference to 'BenchmarkTool' in the source, so I'm not sure where that is coming from
<cyrusbuilt> hmmmm.... think I figured it out
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<coolcoder613_32> Good morning
<coolcoder613_32> Is there any program i can use to make a daily alarm on Haiku?
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<dovsienko> there's a cron daemon in the ports, although I have not tried it
<coolcoder613_32> I want command-line args for MediaPlayer!
<coolcoder613_32> The BeOS MediaPlayer had them
<dovsienko> VLC/MPlayer then?
<dovsienko> or maybe it would not be too difficult to implement the ones you need? it is nice to have a real-world use case for software development
<dovsienko> also, there's QMMP with plugins, and if it has a plugin XMMS once had (an alarm with the function to ramp the volume up slowly), then that would scratch the itch
<coolcoder613_32> I'm using mpv
<coolcoder613_32> with cronie
<cyrusbuilt> Getting a new error now: Error: Reason: build-requires "devel:libqt6core" of package "gitqlient-1.6.2" could not be resolved
<cyrusbuilt> Not sure why it's having trouble resolving libqt6core
<cyrusbuilt> I gotta be doing something dumb
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<coolcoder613> Hi zard
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<zard> Hello coolcoder613 :)
<coolcoder613> What's up?