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<KenzieAon_> I dont know if anyone is around to here it, but I figured out the issue I was having (if I hadnt said it before)
<KenzieAon_> Apparently hardware raid, even when unconfigured, screws with Haiku
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* coolcoder613 is here
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<Anarchos> hello
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<Anarchos> Begasus https://0x0.st/XsOK.png
<Anarchos> nice icon i found for my development hard drives
<Anarchos> Anybody know how to squash commits in review.haiku-os.org ?
<Begasus> looks nice Anarchos
<Anarchos> Begasus yes they are in src/data/artwork/icons
<Anarchos> not mine, i am terrible at digital design...
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> Anarchos, I don't know if it works kinda like git, I wrote it down here for myself: https://github.com/Begasus/haikuports/wiki/Using-git-commands#squashing-git-commits
<Anarchos> Begasus i know how to do it on a local repo, but i pushed two commits for review and i thought the second one would be squashed into the first, but it isn't.
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<PulkoMandy> Squash them locally and push the squashed version. It will update the first commit if you keep the same change-id in the commit message
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<coolcoder613_> Hi Begasus
<Anarchos> PulkoMandy ok
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<Begasus> Hi coolcoder613_
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<Begasus> bugger kdenlive 24.* still crahses on launch
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<Anarchos> hello mmu_man
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<Anarchos> hello jmairboeck
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<aazam[m]> Good morning/evening :)
<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) Butler catsup
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<coolcoder613> Hi aazam[m]
<Anarchos> hello aazam[m]
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<phschafft> I'm wondering how to implement mounting. hm.
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<Anarchos> phschafft mounting what ?
<phschafft> file systems.
<phschafft> they're a bit strange of a thing as the kernel holds a reference to them.
<phschafft> I would guess Haiku just has a global state for that (basically a table with mounted filesystems).
<coolcoder613> Wouldn't that be under the / filesystem?
<coolcoder613> And wouldn't only / be stored by the kernel?
<phschafft> on UNIX-oid systems the basic idea is that you hold a reference to some resource, once all references are gone the resource is unloaded.
<phschafft> that is true for files, memory, sockets, ...
<Anarchos> phschafft there is mounting of windows partition
<Anarchos> phschafft didn"t you look into that code ?
<phschafft> and I guess Haiku just follows that for the most part.
<phschafft> Anarchos: I'm just thinking aloud. abusing this channel as my wall as there are many good ideas in this channel. ;)
<phschafft> you could say that each process holds a reference to it's root directory.
<phschafft> (similar to it holding a reference to it's working directory.)
<phschafft> however that doesn't work for stuff you mount below the root filesystem. that is not referenced by the process (and can be changed while the process is running without it doing anything).
<phschafft> there are a few ways to solve that problem. from more pragmatic to more engineered.
<phschafft> just wondering about the different options and their implications.
<phschafft> options such as having a global table, having tables that reference the filesystems and each process holds a reference to that table (that is what Linux does), having the parent filesystem hold a reference on the child filesystem (which might have some strange busy states), ...
<Anarchos> i can't find the right settings to launch ssh-agent and ssh-add at startup . in which files to put them ? I tried UserSetupEnvironment and ~/config/settings/profile, but each terminal window ask for the password everytime i open one
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<Bega> Konversation 21.02.1 up and running too :D
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<Anarchos> Begasus[m] what is konversation ?
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<Begasus> IRC client from KDE Anarchos
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<Anarchos> Begasus better than Vision ?
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<Begasus> I don't know Anarchos, plenty around there, still use Vision here
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<cyrus> Hello all
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<Begasus> Hello cyrus__
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<BrunoSpr> HI all, hi cyrus__ hello Begasus
<Begasus> Hi BrunoSpr
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<Anarchos> hello BrunoSpr
<Anarchos> hello cyrus__
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57669] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9b8fbc06c886+%5E5b5c8f7d414f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9b8fbc06c886 - x86_gcc2: Bump ffmpeg6 aligning to previous x86_64 change
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d7100f893321...02ef9398e4e5
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 02ef939 - cudatext, don't depend on python library, add cmd:python3 for it (#10262)
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<Begasus> afk
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<Anarchos> Begasus do you think it would be easy to port gtksourceview3 if we have gtksourceview4 ?
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<Begasus> jmairboeck, build for texlive_core went fine on 32bit :)
<Begasus> afk ... again :)
<jmairboeck> nice, thanks for testing
<Begasus> left it running on the other laptop being idle :)
<Begasus> biab
<jmairboeck> then it will probably be fine because texlive is "any" arch
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<jmairboeck> the first build of that is soon ready (yesterday I botched it unfortunately), so then I can run the createSubpackageInfos script and do a "real" build once again
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<jmairboeck> "botched" as in - I left the -S flag in when running haikuporter and got a policy error, even though this is only a temporary build, so I had to redo it again today
<Anarchos> Begasus can't wait the texliv_core on 64bits.
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<jmairboeck> Anarchos: there is a draft PR already, but we will merge it only when the full thing is done: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/10261
<Anarchos> jmairboeck nice \o/
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<Generic> Good morning(???) everybody.
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<Anarchos> GenericConfluent it is afternoon here but good morning to you :)
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<GenericConfluent> Would anybody be willing to give my GSoC application a quick read through? I'm thinking I should be a little more specific in the timeline of my proposal but I'm not really sure. Any and all feedback is welcome.
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<Begasus> re
<nosycat> o/
<Begasus> not everything is successful on KDE ;) https://0x0.st/XsY8.png
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<nosycat> It can't all go smoothly. :)
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<augiedoggie_> your workspaces replicant looks funny, the last workspace is huge :P
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<Begasus> yeah, made me wonder too augiedoggie
<Begasus> probably will put it back on the Desktop
<augiedoggie> the only thing i could think is that one is set to a different resolution, but i'm not sure the replicant even cares about that
<Begasus> ah, didn't cross my mind ... checking
<Begasus> nope, all the same
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<Begasus> k, seems disabling the coror scheme on Tokodon doesn't do the trick here, reverting ...
<jmairboeck> Begasus: I just pushed my changes for the big texlive package, if you want to try it as well. I'll start the "real" build now.
<Begasus> cool jmairboeck!
<Begasus> let me first fix tokodon :)
<Begasus> meanwhile some do still work fine on KF6 :) https://0x0.st/XsYQ.1_2.png
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<PriyanshuGupta[m]> hello everyone
<Begasus> here it goes ... Length: 4270954732 (4.0G) (unauthoritative) :D
<Begasus> Hi PriyanshuGupta[m]
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> is anyone of using clion
<nosycat> What's clion?
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> I guess nosycat and me are not ;)
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> it's an ide
<zard> not using it either here
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> Begasus: :)
<Begasus> jikes: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/clion (look at the dependencies) :)
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<AlaskanEmily3> I think a lot of that is just the list of JRE alternatives?
<augiedoggie> you can use the bin package like the other jetbrains software
<augiedoggie> pycharm, intellij, ...
<Begasus> probably the same as with netbeans and the likes
<Begasus> right :)
<Begasus> PriyanshuGupta[m], tried it on Haiku?
<cyrus__> ooohhhh CLion would be cool
<cyrus__> I use a lot of jetbrains stuff for work though
<Begasus> cyrus__, just grab the bin (zip package) and use it? ;)
<cyrus__> Yeah might see if I can build a port for that
<Begasus> you can then tell us if the 1GB archive is working or not :P
<cyrus__> lol yeah that sucker is a beast for sure
<cyrus__> the other 2 jetbrains packages were like 600MB+
<Begasus> does it add something in favor of the other two?
<Begasus> jmairboeck, hope you got the correct checksum on that :)
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> <Begasus> "Priyanshu Gupta, tried it on..." <- not yet
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> I'm currently on my linux and use this ide for the xfs project
<Begasus> PriyanshuGupta[m], so you want us to waste 1GB of download? :P
<Begasus> *if it wasn't for the texlive download I'd have a quick look though* :)
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<PriyanshuGupta[m]> Begasus: no i didn't mean that
<Begasus> np PriyanshuGupta[m], just messing wity you ;)
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> I'm looking for someone who has done Cpp development in clion
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> Begasus: you got me:)
<Begasus> food, bbl
<jmairboeck> Begasus: what I forgot to mention: I think you have to delete install-tl-unx download first if you still have it around from 2023, because that file name doesn't contain a version number
<jmairboeck> but you would have got a wrong checksum then anyway, because the contents did change, even if the file name didn't
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<jmairboeck> I have a question about the haikuports buildmaster: if I push 2 commits at the same time to master, is it guaranteed that they are picked up in the right order, i.e. the recipe in the first commit first and then the second? Or should I push them separately to master to be sure?
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<augiedoggie> i don't know if they will or not but i usually separate them anyhow
<jmairboeck> ok, then I'll have to push the 2 texlive recipes separately. I'm not sure if building texlive-2024 with texlive_core-2023 would work correctly.
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/36d7d9ee020e...a7d5749a1be7
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 537257b - buildmaster/loop: Fix incorrect chown to chmod in repo signing
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuporter] kallisti5 a7d5749 - buildmaster: Add tool to regenerate repo
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<Begasus> closing down here (saving resources for texlive build)
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<PriyanshuGupta[m]> see you
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<OscarL> kallisti5[m]: while you're doing repository rebuilding stuff... https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/5969
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<Anarchos> hello
<gingi> hi
<Anarchos> hello gingi
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<kallisti5[m]> Oscar-L: I can take a look.
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<OscarL> (darn disconnects). Thanks kallisti5[m] :-)
<coolcoder613_32> Good morning
<OscarL> o/
<Anarchos> hello coolcoder613_32
<coolcoder613_32> I came across this recently: https://github.com/aappleby/hancho
<Anarchos> augiedoggie i want to port that http://mmix.cs.hm.edu/examples/hellovmb.html, but with more native and prettier icons
<Anarchos> augiedoggie the original ones are particulary ugly....
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<coolcoder613_32> How can I specify a day in a query for modified after?
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<coolcoder613_32> nvm
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<Sana> Hi! I'm intersted in GSOC projects about GPU driver acceleration and kernel power management. I was wondering if anyone could direct me towards the people I should be speaking to regarding these projects?
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<OscarL> Sana, hi. You could try this channel later in the day (or ealier, depending on your timezone :-D), and/or try with the development mailing list (https://www.haiku-os.org/community/ml/)
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<coolcoder613_32> Hi zard
<zard> Hello coolcoder613_32
<coolcoder613_32> I am trying to write some C++
<coolcoder613_32> For litebrowser-haiku
<coolcoder613_32> Anyone know what could be the problem with fData->Seek(0,SEEK_SET);
<coolcoder613_32> where fData is BMallocIO
<zard> Everything looks ok to me :/
<coolcoder613_32> Woo!
<coolcoder613_32> I fixed it