<KenzieAon>
Well, I caved and brought up another system to see if Haiku would work, and it boots to a USB! But after installation it just has a blank screen with a blinking text bar. No buttons do anything.
<KenzieAon>
I am impressed with how stubborn Haiku has chosen to be for me.
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<Kokito>
Anyone getting 'Refreshing repository "Haiku" failed' error when trying to update nightly?
<Kokito>
Never mind. Tried again, and update worked...
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<augiedoggie>
hm, forgot to change something in that gittyup recipe :/
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<KenzieAon>
I buckled down and got Haiku booting. Just not on the system I want it to. It's weird how it kind of "just works" on that other system. I dont know if it's EFI or not, but I know it still doesnt work on my BIOS system
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<augiedoggie>
probably not, efi requires a bunch of manual steps to set up
<augiedoggie>
well, i guess if you mean installed and booting
<rennj>
people being quoted crazy prices to renew licenses
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<Begasus>
doing qemu here just to quickly check up on freshly builds, vmware installed on Windows to do some more build packages testing
<Anarchos>
Begasus i wait the nvmm driver
<Begasus>
Anarchos, haven't checked there, got the rvvm up and running (checks) here though :)
<rennj>
you avoiding the lava flows?
<rennj>
volcanic eruption on the Reykjanes Peninsula
<rennj>
Asked whether people will move away from Grindavik, she said many will move and "about 30% have already decided to sell their properties".
<rennj>
Iceland has 33 active volcano systems and sits over what is known as the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, the boundary between two of the largest tectonic plates on the planet.
<rennj>
took me 400hours about 1 month to build ram os/immutable os
<rennj>
old os 380Mb.iso in 16GB of ram, new 2024 os 597MB.iso
<rennj>
same vmware ...same os image..just different hardware
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<rennj>
pip install ansible..haha i had 500 sparc 5's use to know to phone home and check for instructions..i didnt have to contact them. like voyager probe..phone home. i didnt need sshd i didnt need python.
<rennj>
nor leave those ports open...
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<gordonjcp>
morning
<gordonjcp>
Begasus: how's things?
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<Begasus>
g'morning gordonjcp
<Begasus>
easy pace here :)
<Begasus>
checking out latest PR for qemu
<gordonjcp>
:-)
<gordonjcp>
I'm just sitting here with a coffee, watching some Matt's Off Road Recovery with the junior tape op
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<gordonjcp>
beautiful sunny day here, maybe a day for the beach
<Anarchos>
damn, haiku is so slow to rm big folders…
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<jmairboeck>
Apparently, texlive 2024 needs autoconf 2.72 to build, at least if we keep regenerating the configure scripts. Is there anything special to consider, updating 2.71 to 2.72? (given that we have 4 different versions already)
<PulkoMandy>
the versions are incompatible with each other usually so you probably need to keep the old ones
<PulkoMandy>
but there should be no problems with adding new ones
<jmairboeck>
ok, should I rename the existing one to autoconf2.71 then?
<jmairboeck>
or the new one as autoconf2.72?
<PulkoMandy>
From the existing recipes, it seems we rename the old one
<jmairboeck>
some more weirdness I noticed: the current version 2.71 uses compat >= 2.60, while 2.69 uses compat >= 2.69. If they are incompatible, why compat >= 2.60?
<jmairboeck>
if I rename it, should I update it to compat >= 2.71?
<jmairboeck>
and keep 2.72 at compat 2.60 or update to 2.72?
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<PulkoMandy>
I don't know
<jmairboeck>
ok, thanks. I'll update it according to the existing versions and open a PR, then other people can comment on it.
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<KenzieAon>
Well, I've narrowed down the issues to maybe one or two things. ACPI ID 0 goes on a loop of being found and not enabled, and the boot loader detects 128 drives for some reason
<KenzieAon>
I now just have to figure out why either of those are happening
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<Anarchos>
re Begasus
<Begasus>
re Anarchos :)
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<Anarchos>
Begasus i am fighting to reinstall Ocaml...
<Begasus>
nice PulkoMandy! gitk running without crashing now?
<Begasus>
Anarchos, slap it :)
<PulkoMandy>
Begasus: There is another bug with locales so you still need to force the C locale using environment variables
<PulkoMandy>
And there is still another crashing bug I think, but less easy to trigger...
<Begasus>
ah, monst annoying one fixed then :)
<PulkoMandy>
It looks like a big design probl m in sdl2 so I'm not looking into that today...
<Begasus>
can imagine, not an easy one to tackle
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
hello everyone
<nosycat>
Hi there!
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<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
PulkoMandy: I have updated the inode format and tested them too i think they are working fine i have tested them with xfs shell and posted the result on the mailing list.
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
i think the short form directories also need a format update can you verify it?
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
Also updated my current patch to match the same
<PulkoMandy>
I spent the weekend with my parents and sister. Not much time for Haiku :) but I will have a look when I have time to process my emails, there's a little bit of delay
<Anarchos>
Begasus is Kdevelop better than paladin / lpe ?
<Begasus>
I haven't fiddled with those much Anarchos, they require more skills then mine :)
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<Anarchos>
Begasus i use only vim but a bit tired of it...
<Begasus>
well, KDevelop is a one in all env (kinda like Qt Creator), graphical, so most basic editable options are provided
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<Begasus>
nice, a meson project builds fine too :)
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<OscarL>
Turns out that the "buildbot_slave" .recipe is not only WAY outdated, but also wrongly named. Should be called "buildbot_worker" instead :-/
* OscarL
runs "inrecipe python3.9", finds CudaText in there... and pokes Begasus :-P
<Begasus>
err ..
<Begasus>
I guess it was fine back then :P
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<Begasus>
Hola OscarL :)
<OscarL>
Hey there Begasus :-)
<OscarL>
"back then" in January 2024? :-P
<Begasus>
there must be a reason why I did it?
<Begasus>
ps: Mar 20, 2023
<Begasus>
ah, you meant cudatext :)
<OscarL>
git log says otherwise for cudatext-1.206.5.0.recipe, here? In any case... probably just an oversight.
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<Begasus>
well, you can install Lazarus now on 64bit and bump cudatext? :P
<OscarL>
not if you want me to try and cleanup more python recipes :-P
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<Begasus>
cudatext only needs the main python recipe, so the others shouldn't be involved?
<Begasus>
Result := Import('sys'); + Result := Import('datetime'); from quick look :)
<OscarL>
Just started CudaText on 32 bits... console shows Python 3.10.13, but I do not recall if it defaults to 3.9 and I've changed some setting.
<nosycat>
Last time I tried it depended on 3.9, so it must have been updated.
<OscarL>
nosycat: the .recipe has that dependency, but it is not a hard-dependency, you can point it to other libpython3.nn.so.
<OscarL>
that's why I don't like the recipe having a particular libpython as dependency.
<nosycat>
Well, unless a specific version really is needed.
<OscarL>
AFAIK, CudaText should be able to start without any python installed (not very useful, as the plugins need python :-P), but still. Maybe it could depend simply on "cmd:python3"...
<OscarL>
as we do not offer "libpython3.so" in any python package.
<nosycat>
Sounds like a possible workaround.
<OscarL>
For now, just moving it to libpython3.10 would already be an improvement.
* OscarL
wishes he could drop "buildbot_slave" (aka buildbot-worker) ... so he could just drop "twisted".
<Begasus>
is anything using it?
<Begasus>
npm won't update ...
<OscarL>
I think at some point Haiku used buildbot instead of concurse... maybe that's why we have it in HaikuPorts?
<Begasus>
open an issue to clarify it?
<OscarL>
Yeah, should do that.
<OscarL>
I'm not a fan of packaging "any" Python packages that don't need any patching. "pip install" can handle those, without us having to maintain them.
<OscarL>
Unless, of course... they are needed for a particular app/tool we need.
<OscarL>
welp... buildbot_slave does have a .patchset :-( (even if one-liner)
<Begasus>
tailBin = "/usr/bin/tail" tsss
<OscarL>
the explosion of depedencies in the Python packages is getting on my nerves :-D
<jmairboeck>
maybe it could be upstreamed if it was properly conditioned for Haiku?
<OscarL>
jmairboeck: would need to try latest version first (3.11.1 vs our 0.95.0), and at that point... I might as well also update the recipe :-P
<jmairboeck>
ah, I didn't check the versions :)
<OscarL>
(before upstreaming the patch if still needed)
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<Begasus>
closing down here
<Begasus>
cu peeps!
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<KenzieAon>
Alright, so I figured out the issue, RAID was on.
<KenzieAon>
Now I just need to get a boot manager that can boot into Haiku, GRUB and Windows Boot Manager didnt work. Is there a way to connect Grub to BootMan or something?
<OscarL>
KenzieAon: On my machine, that uses BIOS/MBR... I use BootManager to boot into Win/Linux/Haiku.
<OscarL>
only "trick" was to install grub2 not in say, "/dev/sda", but on "/dev/sda3" (or whatever your Linux partition is)
<OscarL>
BootManager has no issue chainloading Win/Grub/whatever, in my experience.
<OscarL>
or you can just use grub, and chainload Haiku's bootloader, if you want to use GRUB as your main boot loader.
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