<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] b982aa1d998a - HaikuDepot: Version bump
<Begasus>
remember that most of the developers still have a full-time job next to this, I'm sure if there is something they will reply in good time
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
Okay I will then wait for him about this
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
or i think I should put some more work on his Suggestions
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<Begasus>
you can proceed anyway I guess PriyanshuGupta[m] (if he made suggestions)
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<barusu>
Hello, everyone. I want to apply to the Haiku project for Google Summer of Code. The GPU acceleration support project really catches my eye as I like working with hardware. Last year, I wrote drivers for the RTEMS RTOS for Raspberry Pi 4 as part of GSoC.
<barusu>
Could you please let me know how I could get started?
* Begasus
should keep that download for pycharm around ...
<barusu>
Thanks for the resources. I'll go through them, especially the guides.
<barusu>
Also, if it's okay with you. Could you please let me know how many projects you plan to host this year, as part of GSoC?
<Begasus>
barusu, for the record, I'm not a mentor in the project, just a Haiku enthousiast
<Begasus>
iirc Haiku hosts 3 projects (someone correct me if I'm wrong)?
<barusu>
Last year, there were 6. I hope it stays the same. I really like the vision of the project.
<Begasus>
Every bit of work done is welcomed also, we all benifit from it +1
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<PetePete>
What is UP??
<PetePete>
How long has it been? Does Haikue have full NT support yet? Is it using the Darwin kernel? (I kid...)
<zard>
Hello PetePete :)
<PetePete>
Oh look at that. I still cannot type
<PetePete>
I had a strong cup of coffee and a few bumps of Indian snuff so I'm kinda hyped
* zard
is currently working on a PR of haikuwebkit
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<zard>
(haikuwebkit is WebPositive's rendering engine)
<PetePete>
Nice!
<PetePete>
I want... ney... I NEED Haiku in my life. Wen encripshun?!
<zard>
Wen encripshun?
<PetePete>
Anyway, I came to say that for those of you who work tirelessly without encouragement or thanks... Thanks. I cannot tell you how much I love this OS and how much nostalgia is pumps into my veins. You guys are the best.
<zard>
Thanks :")
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<Begasus>
neat! Thanks Fedora :D
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<Begasus>
yeah, didn't pase well, last link is done with UploadIt
<x512[m]>
Code to launch nuclear missiles?
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
bugger, too old to remember that :)
<zard>
barusu: haiku@freelists.org
<BrunoSpr>
We should have a horizontal wheel scrolling mouse, with "Strg-Wheelmouse" for example
<BrunoSpr>
There is only vertical scrolling the webbrowser Falkon for now, is it?
<lorglas>
cu
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<PetePete>
Habbie: solid advice
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<barusu>
zard: Thanks a lot.
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<Anarchos>
so many projects to code, so little time...
<nosycat>
I know, right? D:
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<PulkoMandy>
zard: Hello, I am rebasing the webkit2 branch on top of the current haikuwebkit. I think it makes sense to do this now, and then hopefully we can finish cleaning it up so that the commits can be merged into the main hakuwebkit branch. I am tired of maintaining two branches :)
<PulkoMandy>
Doing a rebase on haikuwebkit 1.9.9 now and I'll do another one after that to the very latest version, so I should be done today or tomorrow
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy: is there a candidate for the nvmm port in GSOC ?
<PulkoMandy>
Someone submitted a patch and a forum post
<zard>
Ok, I guess that means I'll have to make sure webkitlegacy continues working
<zard>
I guess that means I'll need to update my PR?
<zard>
So that it's on top of the rebased branch
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<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
PulkoMandy: Thanks for you Suggestion on the my queries at gerrit
<PulkoMandy>
zard: Yes, you can rebase your pr when I'm done
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
Should I also convert my current patch in the same OnDisk format [XFS PROJECT]
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy: i missed that. I am curious to see it work, to speed up qemu on my home server :)
<PulkoMandy>
And, yes, I think we should try to keep webkitlegacy working as much as possible, at least until we have an haikuwebkit2 ready for release. But also some of the commits in the webkit2 branch need to be cleaned. Things are added in a commit and removed in the next one, or things I'm just not sure about.
<PulkoMandy>
zard: Did you manage to set up devconsole to see the internal logs from haikuwebkit?
<PulkoMandy>
PriyanshuGupta[m]: Yes, I think all new code should use this format and also all existing code should be converted to it
<zard>
Yes, very recently actually :). Is it normal to be that barren? (~20 or so logs)
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
Okay i will change my Current patch in the Same format and after that i will try for the same same format for Inodes too
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
Is this fine?
<PulkoMandy>
zard: Currently the connection between the different processes is not working, and so, not much is happening
<barusu>
Was reading the docs. I like how we can compile Haiku on Haiku :)
<zard>
Self-hosted I think its called? :-)
<slema>
What do you people ask to kill tasks on Haiku these days ?
<slema>
I just use this app called TaskManager from many years ago
<slema>
Just wondering if there was something else ?
<slema>
Ideally I want a shortcut to search and kill a task
<slema>
So far the only solution is using TaskManager (without search) or htop in the terminal
<zard>
I click on the cpu monitor on the deskbar, hover over Threads and CPU usage, and click on the process I want to terminate
<zard>
Very unintuitive, am I right? :P
<waddlesplash>
why not use the Vulcan Death Grip?
<slema>
lol
<waddlesplash>
Ctrl+Alt+Shift and click the team in Deskbar
<zard>
Woops, forgot about that one!
<zard>
Lovely, that's much easier
<slema>
Thanks
<slema>
I remember that it was there int he menu.. from the BeOS day but I couldn't remember where the kill option was
<slema>
Turns out I just had to click
<slema>
Ah got it. It was control command + click here (I m am using a Mac keyboard with the same modifier layout)
<slema>
Discoverability isn't very good for a new user. I'd definitely want to patch Tracker to allow a force kill there in the contextual menu
<slema>
Not sure what's the general mindset about submitting that kind of patches ?
<barusu>
I am trying to register on Gerrit. Does it take time to receive the verification email?
<slema>
On a Mac for example if you hold alt when showing the contextual menu you get this force kill option. It's hidden enough to not frighten new comers but easier to discover (because hodling alt is know on Mac OS since the 80s as the way to discover hidden options). That would b of course either command or alt depending on your layout
<BrunoSpr>
Begasus, there is a new Scribus version... 1.6.0 / 1.6.1 please have a look if you can port it! Maybe and hopefully the Signal #11 problem might be gone in this new Versions
<PulkoMandy>
slema: It's not Tracker, it's Deskbar, but otherwise that sounds like a reasonable patch to me
<Anarchos>
slema type 'kill Terminal' in Terminal...
<Begasus>
it's not an easy patch BrunoSpr, I'm sure M3dEyes[m] can have a look, if not I can still see what can be done
<slema>
I have quite a list of stuff I want to write to make my life easier and hopefully other's. Well who am I kidding, I have hundreds of other tasks but there are more pleasing !
<BrunoSpr>
Begasus, ah thank you, because this is the only professional Desktop publishing software that works on Haiku!
<BrunoSpr>
Begasus, I hope M3dEyes[m], has time to work on it and make this happen, with luck it will come out as a more stable version than the 1.5.8 version was.
<BrunoSpr>
or is!
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<Begasus>
signing off for today, cu peeps!
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<slema>
Just found out about Haiku Utils by @X512 - Looks like a good task manager to me. That and the services manger in there look like stuff that should some day make it to the main system
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 36c1b695a89a - kernel/vfs: Make vnode_path_to_vnode use VnodePutter internally.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 230110ff313e - kernel/vfs: Remove "count" parameter from first vnode_path_to_vnode variant.
<barusu>
How long does it usually take to compile Haiku from source?
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<barusu>
I've already compiled the buildtools
<zard>
My guess is several hours. Never actually done it before though, believe it or not :^)
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<slema>
Well it depends a lot of the amount of cores you throw at the build. I build it recently (cross compiling for RISCV) on a i3 (4 cores). That's a few hours indeed. Much faster on a Ryzen machine (though build currently fails there)
<barusu>
Ah, I guess I'll directly use the nightly then, or should I really leave it overnight?
<barusu>
I have a laptop, so most likely it will take a lot of time. 8 GB RAM, Ryzen 3550 H (4 cores, 8 threads total. 3.8 GHz clock)
<barusu>
I should be able to develop the kernel module without having to compile the OS, right? I plan to work on GPU acceleration support for GSoC.
<zard>
I
<zard>
I'm personally not sure...
<zard>
I did a bit of work trying to fix a file system addon. As far as I found, there was no way of loading modified versions without recompiling Haiku. It may or may not be similar for driver development
<zard>
But, the first compilation of Haiku takes a while. Recompiling after making changes shouldn't take very long at all.
<zard>
Which leaves just the annoyance of restarting all the time to test it :/
<barusu>
Oh, the raw image got built in 20 minutes. Nice
<zard>
Oh, ok. Not bad then :)
<barusu>
The buildtools took about one hour to build
<zard>
Ah, I guess that makes sense. Gcc's code base may be bigger than Haiku's!
<barusu>
Btw, the raw image that I generated just has to be passed qemu as an HDD, right? Are there any docs for this?
<zard>
Is it a .img file?
<barusu>
Yeah, it's a .image file around 700 MiB
<barusu>
haiku-nightly.image
<barusu>
I would prefer the CLI args, if possible.
<zard>
It sounds about right. Guess it doesn't hurt to try. Cli args: -hda haiku-nightly.image
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<barusu>
Thanks, I can see the loading screen
<zard>
That's all for today, goodbye!
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<kallisti5[m]>
fun riddle time
<kallisti5[m]>
why does this resolve
<kallisti5[m]>
haiku-test-cool.s3.wasabisys.com
<kallisti5[m]>
and this does not:
<kallisti5[m]>
haiku-test-cools.s3.wasabisys.com
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<kallisti5[m]>
*only on my desktop hmmmmm
<barusu>
🤔
<kallisti5[m]>
Dangit it's my starlink router doing dns resolution not resolving it
<kallisti5[m]>
I switch to 8.8.8.8 and it works
<barusu>
Ah, it's always DNS
<barusu>
How does Starlink perform? Wasn't it expensive?
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<barusu>
Does Haiku support QEMU spice protocol?
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<slema>
I am curious how StarlLink works in real life ? I would prefer any option that isn't from Elon but in my fantasy of one day living very far in the forest it sound nice as a concept.
<slema>
BTW. not sure if it's a coincidence but I seem to have issue with networking here on my two Haiku machines .. looks like it tries to use IPV6 but there's none. Like if I ping google it uses the IPV6 even though it's disabled in the settings
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<slema>
Does anyone know of a notification app for Haiku ? Something like growl on Mac. There's the alert command line but I want something that shows up and goes away alone