<nekobot>
• kenmays (41aab6ec): vulkan: bump to 1.4.304 (#11651)
<PetePete>
Hear me out:
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<PetePete>
Andrew Torba, who runs gab.com, has been receiving legal threats from European countries since 2016 and has done nothing but tell them to go fuck themselves because he operates his business in the USA and they have no jurisdiction. He ridicules them openly. Like or dislike, agree or disagree with his stance - it may be worth reaching out to him to inquire about his experience with this.
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<PetePete>
He is a very nice guy and would probably share everything he knows and everything his lawyers have told him. He might even make a donation to the Haiku project.
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<Begasus>
morning peeps
<PetePete>
Morning
<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning!
<Begasus>
Morning PetePete andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]>
Morning Begasus
<andreasdr[m]>
<3
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<Halian>
Begasus: morning
<Halian>
PetePete: ewwwwww
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<PetePete>
Halian, ewww what?
<Halian>
Reaching out to the Gab guy
<Halian>
I'd think we'd want to stay far away from That Corner Of The Interwobs
<th3synth4x>
Hello everyone! My name is thesynthax. I am here for GSoC 2025. I was checking out the ideas list, I would like to know what ideas are of higher priority?
<PetePete>
There is nothing ewww about the ONLY website that actually allows free speech, btw.
<th3synth4x>
Can anybody help me?
<PetePete>
th3synth4x That probably depends on who you ask. These guys are so dedicated to what they do, I'm not sure you'll get a quick answer
<PetePete>
Porting apps might be easiest and can make a significant impact
<PetePete>
Lots of good quality apps attract more users and so on
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<th3synth4x>
Alright! Thanks! I will look into it.
<th3synth4x>
I am new to this community and I am really looking forward to contribute to this project.
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<Begasus>
Morning Halian th3synth4x
<th3synth4x>
Morning to you too!
<PetePete>
I always hear a lot about drivers, 3D acceleration, Virtualbox, and browser features
<Begasus>
th3synth4x there should be a GSoC idea page on the website that you could check out
<Begasus>
not sure if PulkoMandy has updated it for this year yet though, I know he was/is planning too
<PetePete>
He did.
<Begasus>
ow :)
<PetePete>
She?
<th3synth4x>
Yes, I checked it out already and compiled few of my ideas of interest and wanted to know which of those are of higher priority so that I can start working on it ASAP!
<nekobot>
• weinig (ddefac0c): Assertion when using non-absolute / non-font-relative units in ctx.letterSpacing/ctx.wordSpacing…
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<andreasdr[m]>
Begasus: Which pkg provides gl and vulkan on Haiku? pkgconf can not find it.
<andreasdr[m]>
Just if you have time ....
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<Begasus>
gl = mesa, vulkan just vulkan?
<Begasus>
pkgman search foo tot the resque andreasdr[m] :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Ah so easy.
<andreasdr[m]>
Sorry.
<andreasdr[m]>
:DDD
<andreasdr[m]>
How is it going?
<Begasus>
good, easy peacy atm here :)
<Begasus>
trying to figure out which icons Tokodon master is missing in our svg icon theme
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<andreasdr[m]>
Nice
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<dovsienko>
boody24[m]: you keep asking the same questions both in the channel and privately, but you do not actually do any of the suggested homework or read a book
<dovsienko>
so it does not seem like your goal is to learn, rather maybe quickly gather material for a thesis and get a course project ticked off
<dovsienko>
that's how it looks from my perspective
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<boody24[m]>
dovsienko: read a book is a vague advice to me
<boody24[m]>
And no it's not a course project
<boody24[m]>
I want to improve the arm port in the next GSoC season
<dovsienko>
"arm 64-bit book" returns at least three different books in my marketplace
<dovsienko>
"Introduction to 64 Bit Assembly Programming for Linux and OS X" by Ray lSeyfarth looks especially affordable
<boody24[m]>
Okay good enough
<boody24[m]>
Thanks
<boody24[m]>
But what is it got to do with haiku?
<boody24[m]>
I can read and learn more while still working on haiku?
<boody24[m]>
I don't have to read a whole book to change or add a line of code in haiku
<dovsienko>
you mentioned the only thing you know is virtual memory, so you'd need to fill a big AArch64 gap and a big Haiku gap
<dovsienko>
AArch64 specifics can be learned from books and source code of other OSes that already have an AArch64 port
<dovsienko>
(which is what I mentioned two times before)
<boody24[m]>
I agree
<dovsienko>
you will not find a book or a course or a video on the Internet that would give an exhaustive step-by-step direction on how to port Haiku on AArch64
<boody24[m]>
But I can fix simple bugs or something currently, right?
<boody24[m]>
dovsienko: Yes, that's why I'm asking here
<dovsienko>
porting Haiku on AArch64 requires an engineer who already understands both Haiku and AArch64 well enough
<dovsienko>
if you are asking for specific directions, people that know exactly how to port Haiku on AArch64 would spend more time explaining it, rather than doing it themselves
<boody24[m]>
I was looking for any direction to be honest
<dovsienko>
you already have received some, and you keep rephrasing "yes. how do I port Haiku on AArch64?" again and again
<dovsienko>
I suggest you read the feedback you have already received and do your homework in the AArch64 department, and start learning Haiku on AMD64
<dovsienko>
then you come back and report what you have read, learned and done, and ask which direction to research next
<dovsienko>
otherwise to me it feels like speaking to a script that just replays "how do I do that?" in a loop and collects responses to fill a database
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<scanty>
nice one begasus
<scanty>
grr.
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<scanty>
triying to separate a dependency on a variable, and it's not fun
<Begasus>
closing down here for today
<Begasus>
cu peeps!
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<scanty>
guess i'll make a function with some redundant code for now.
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<Skipp_OSX>
make a function...
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<dovsienko>
waddlesplash: is this syslog message of any interest?
<dovsienko>
libroot __mutex_unlock: mutex was not actually locked!
<nephele_xmpp>
dru_satori: the work requires a lot of refactoring
<nephele_xmpp>
basically, we have HID support for usb, but we want to use common code for bluetooth, usb, and i2c (or potentially other busses sending HID)
<waddlesplash>
dovsienko: nope
<waddlesplash>
open ticket, known issue
<nephele_xmpp>
so, “just” adding HID to bluetooth is a task that involves quite a bit of different components :)
<Skipp_OSX>
waddlesplash how are you committing multiple PS's in one commit? Is there a way to do it using Gerrit or do you push from git?
<waddlesplash>
Skipp_OSX: you click "Submit" on the patchset at the top of the chain
<waddlesplash>
the button will say "Submit Including Parents" on Gerrit
<Skipp_OSX>
I see, but Shortcuts refactor still has a -1 on it so it won't let me
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<Skipp_OSX>
I had to go through and +2 everything for that option to light up. I won't push the button yet I just wanted to know how it worked.
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<waddlesplash>
Skipp_OSX: -1 doesn't block merging, -2 does
<waddlesplash>
and all changes need +2 in order to be merged, yes.
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<Skipp_OSX>
One issue still is that it says "Send message on switch directory to the container to RepopulateMenus()" but I'm not actually sending a message to this anymore, I'm calling the base class method instead... But if I fix the commit message it will say not current on all the subsequent PS's.
<Skipp_OSX>
I could push again to update it but then it will trigger the commit bot and send a bunch of emails.
<nephele_xmpp>
If the commit bot runs stuff in it’s que after it is already merged that’d be a bug to me, i don’t think you should worry about thhat
<nephele_xmpp>
and for noop commits (rebases) it should probably only run when requested
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<Skipp_OSX>
ok let me do one final check make sure everything is working
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<scanty>
does the bot have "! seen"?
<Skipp_OSX>
damn it, I found an issue...
<scanty>
haven't heard from OscarL lately
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<marco_>
Is it planned to port Nvidia-GPU-Drivers on Haiku? I'm not an expert. But NVidia opened their drivers for linux, so there should be a way to port them, or not? Maybe I'm wrong.
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<nephele_xmpp>
No, they did not. They moved their main driver components to firmware, and this only works for fairly recent gpus
<scanty>
do you mean nouveau?
<nephele_xmpp>
and even on linux this isn’t currently ready/intended for desktop use
<marco_>
@nephele_xmpp Ok. Thank you
<nephele_xmpp>
So, if you use this faciliity you won’t get broad support for nvidia gpus either. There is nothing stopping one to write something similar for haiku anyhow, if you want to do that
<marco_>
How I said, I'm not an expert :-) But I like Haiku. Great job from all developers. Keep it up!
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<dovsienko>
scanty: he was around a few days ago
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<nephele_xmpp>
marco_: no problem :)
<Skipp_OSX>
this makes absolutely no sense to me... If I call menu->SetTargetItems(this); like before it works, but if I call my new method Shortcuts()->UpdateAddOnsItem(item); which calls item->Submenu()->SetTargetForItems(fContainerWindow); it doesn't work and menu is item->Submenu()
<Skipp_OSX>
oh and this is fContainerWindow, It should be doing the exact same thing but somehow it's not.
<Skipp_OSX>
Oh......... I see, item is getting overwritten.
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