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<phschafft>
nephele_xmpp: yes?
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<Begasus[m]>
morning peeps
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<OscarL>
good morning Begasus[m] (seems no one else is up this early :-P).
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<lowden>
OscarL: good morning
<lowden>
i raise you different tz
<OscarL>
morning lowden! (I have really crazy sleep cycles, so no matter the timezone... its "morning" whenever I wake up :-P)
<OscarL>
UTC-3:00 here, in any case.
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<Begasus[m]>
re :)
<Begasus[m]>
Hi OscarL !
<Begasus[m]>
morning lowden
<OscarL>
Looking at that cmake issue... might be better to just report the issue upstream, and let them fix them the same way they did for other platforms.
<Begasus[m]>
rermind me again?
<Begasus[m]>
brain isn't on speed yet :)
<OscarL>
(one would hope that Haiku's user base for CMake is far grater than that of WindowsCE)
<Begasus[m]>
nephele_xmpp: they are also in K building :)
<OscarL>
fix upstream seems to be just adding a few files with proper "include(Platform/Linker/FooBar-CXX)", so adding ones for Haiku might be all that's needed...
<OscarL>
but I'm not downloading cmake again over this connection :-)
<Begasus[m]>
think I have most things setup here to cover FOSDEM, in case of interest in ports :)
<Begasus[m]>
tomorrow in the morning, it's only about an hour from here
<OscarL>
Nice. Hope all of you have a great time!
<OscarL>
Wish I was there :-)
<Begasus[m]>
hope so too, first time I'll attend at the boot
<OscarL>
(only for meeting Haiku folks, mind you)
<Begasus[m]>
things I would like to do while I'm there is visit the KDE stand
<OscarL>
makes sense.
<OscarL>
Will you stay for the code sprint too, or you go back home earlier?
<Begasus[m]>
and codeberg (if notOOse doesn't beat me to it) :)
<OscarL>
surely KDE folks will be pleased to meet you!
<Begasus[m]>
maybe on monday, have to see how it works out at home
<Begasus[m]>
don't know, but I'll poke there ;)
<OscarL>
ask the kids to help a bit more at home so you can enjoy your time there! :-P
<Begasus[m]>
they are still at work (or came home from nighshift) :P
<OscarL>
understood.
<Begasus[m]>
biab :)
<OscarL>
Trac's whiteness is blinding even with brightness set to minimun.
<OscarL>
wonder how I survived the days of CRTs.
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<Begasus[m]>
back
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<OscarL>
darn empy python base packages.
<OscarL>
*empty
<Begasus[m]>
put a README file in it? ;)
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<OscarL>
you mean one that contains the following text? "DO NOT INSTALL THESE YOU DUMB!, use the _python3xx for testing!"
<nephele_xmpp>
hi begasus
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: and put your email address in it :P
<Begasus[m]>
hi nephele_xmpp
<nephele_xmpp>
OscarL: I made a dark theme for trac but that wass reverted…
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: right :-)
<nephele_xmpp>
Begasus: Someone fell ill in my family, and as a result I won’t be atttending fosdem, sorry :/
<OscarL>
nephele_xmpp: hi! Yeah, I remember it. Using that with DarkReader on top looked great to me (DR slightly modified a few colors).
<OscarL>
Oh, sorry to hear that nephele_xmpp :-(, hoping for a speedy recovery.
<nephele_xmpp>
DarkReader and similar don’t support the dark mode ironically.
<Begasus[m]>
sorry to hear nephele_xmpp , hope it isn't too bad with your family member
<nephele_xmpp>
begasus: yesterday I asked what ou want webkit to do before fosdem :)
<OscarL>
who reverted the Trac changes? I might want to exchange a few words with them! :-)
<Begasus[m]>
nephele_xmpp: navigating fixed in WebPositive :-)
<Begasus[m]>
somewhere in your (default) tz OscarL :P
<OscarL>
"Either allow this, or come up with something better, but blinding your users ain't cool".
<nephele_xmpp>
OscarL: I think waddlessplash, but please don’t start another fight over this. To be honest I have given completely up on making haikus websites behave properly in dark mode. Since I don’t have a github accountt my changes get randomly reverted or “improved” without discussion, the brightness of the background on haiku-os.org was increased because of some wierd studdy that said “too big contr
<nephele_xmpp>
ast is bad!” Which is true, if the text color had been bright white. Someone changed the link color back to dark blue so it isn’t readable anymore, the trac change was deleted entirely because i tried to make this conform to our branding intead of simply putting the entire change in @prefers-color-scheme etc…
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: newer Web+ is broken now? (good thing I didn't updated then :-D)
<nephele_xmpp>
ed the link color back to dark blue so it isn’t readable anymore, the trac change was deleted entirely because i tried to make this conform to our branding inteadthe trac change was deleted entirely because i tried to make this conform to our branding intead of simply putting the entire change in @prefers-color-scheme etc…
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<nephele_xmpp>
ugh, wtf stupid client
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: not broken, just can't navigate back or forth
<nephele_xmpp>
2) “too big contrast is bad!” Someone changed the link color back to dark blue so it isn’t readable anymore, the trac change was deleted entirely because i tried to make this conform to our branding inteadause i tried to make this conform to our branding intead of simply putting the entire change in @prefers-color-scheme etc…
<OscarL>
nephele_xmpp: I see. I won't start any wars, don't worry, just might make my voice heard.
<OscarL>
without your Trac changes, using DarkReader is better than nothing, but looks ugly.
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<OscarL>
hexchat already used 3 MB of data. Mmm. Paying for each word might make me a bit less verbose... or poorer, we'll see :-D
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<nephele_xmpp>
sure, you can do that. But I won’t spend any effort on this when my work just gets trampeled on, especially when the reason is “we like gitthub”. *espeically* considering the stuff I worked on for trac was nott even on github
<nephele_xmpp>
and thus, after developing the theme changes publically on the forum, i was accused of developing in secret and got ridicilous demands like having to set up a big trac instance myself to focus test the theme or something
<nephele_xmpp>
I’d rather develop forced colors mode in webpositive by now.
<OscarL>
all sounds "a bit silly", sadly. IIRC, at the time I've tried to find where the Trac was hosted, but couldn't find it.
<nephele_xmpp>
maybe It is a bit silly, but it’s still like two weeks of time developing the theme, and then time after that to react to feedback, That is too much of my time wasted over such petty disputes
<OscarL>
nephele_xmpp: I see your point, I wasn't trying to minimize your efforts. Just a comment on how sily is to alienate a collaborator and users in such way.
<OscarL>
most folks were happy with the changes, even if not perfect. so reverting on a whim, without discussion, seems rather childish.
<OscarL>
any way... not trying to work you up over this again. sorry.
<nipos>
The situation with the websites is really unfortunate.I'd say having a dark mode that isn't perfect is still a lot better than not having one at all
<OscarL>
indeed.
<OscarL>
gotta love this: "Testsuite summary for libsigrokdecode 0.5.3" gives: "TOTAL: 0, PASS: 0, .... ERROR: 0".
<nipos>
I can also understand the frustration.I think the dark mode for the Buildmaster that Begasus asked me to create many months ago is still not deployed.I wasted only a couple of hours,but still.And yeah,I saw that coming before...
<OscarL>
BM dark mode changes merged on mid of Oct 2024. Not sure what's missing for its deployment.
<nephele_xmpp>
> The situation with the websites is really unfortunate.I'd say having a dark mode that isn't perfect is still a lot better than not having one at all
<nephele_xmpp>
especially considering that making changes dark mode specific takes like three lines of css to put the whole change into a prefers-color-scheme…
<OscarL>
nipos: might ask kallisti5[m] about it. I think there were other pressing issues at the time? (something about cloud storage of artifacts, IIRC)
<nipos>
Maybe it's now online,I should retest.The last time I tested it wasn't
<OscarL>
nephele_xmpp: just a FYI, in case you didn't notice, but when you reply to a particular line, it gets sent again over IRC.
<OscarL>
makes it hard to read as when people edit messages over matrix.
<OscarL>
nipos: tested it here before my comment. Still only withe background, I'm afraid :-(
<nephele_xmpp>
I quote stuff in irc the same way as the xmpp fallback does. Though i might quote more often since thisi cliient has terrible contrast and huge messages, so I can see much less backlog than in Renga or on IRC in Vision
<OscarL>
*white (can't type)
<nephele_xmpp>
I can see like 11 messages...
<nipos>
OscarL: Yeah,then my point stands.Someone got it merged,but it still isn't live,because nobody seems to care :/
<OscarL>
I try to assume lack of time or awareness.
<OscarL>
in my experience, when around, kallisti5[m] tries his best when you bring something to his attention.
<nipos>
Anyway,I'll have to go to work now.Bye
<OscarL>
be well.
<OscarL>
back to trying to test this "libsigrokdecode", whatever it is...
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<OscarL>
time to go. later!
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<Begasus[m]>
nipos: then and now, I have no clue on how it has been setup there :)
<nephele_xmpp>
begasus: if you merge haikuports commits I could probably make a release for haikuwebkitt using disroot, and then deploy over that
<Begasus[m]>
cya OscarL
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<Begasus[m]>
nephele_xmpp: if there is something to merge I can push the button :)
<Begasus[m]>
but not sure it will work over codeberg, as that isn't linked/forked from haikuports github
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<nephele_xmpp>
Yes, that is what i am talking about. I’m not putting anytihing on github, so would send patces insttead
<Begasus[m]>
so far webkit works with releases, haven't seen a commit checkout before?
<Begasus[m]>
maybe explain in steps what your plan is ... not to cross different mind tracks :)
<nekobot>
• OscarL (2bcc38ad): coverage: update to version 7.6.10. (#11704)…
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<nephele_xmpp>
begasus: I’d add it to disroot, make a tag ( a release ), then send you a commit for haikuports to use that version
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<Begasus[m]>
that should be enough nephele_xmpp
<Begasus[m]>
can always run a check here before pushing to haikuports, checked commits at haikuwebkit yesterday but didn't see any new stuff there since last release
<Begasus[m]>
or try* to run a check before pushing :)
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<Anarchos1>
hello, what does it mean in syslog : "KERN: usb_hid: report of 40 bits too small, expected 64 bits"
<Anarchos1>
it ahppens when my keyboard becomes unresponsive (happens after random time)
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<andreasdr[m]>
Arrrrr
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<Skipp_OSX>
All issues with the pose labels have been fixed in my latest patch sets. Are there any specific set of font settings and/or colors you'd like me to test against?
<andreasdr[m]>
Nice
<Skipp_OSX>
It was a royal pain in the butt. I had to undo all the tweaks so that everything lines up without needing any tweaking.
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<N516[m]>
what's a good wif-dongle which Haiku supports?
<N516[m]>
s/wif/wifi/
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<Skipp_OSX>
there is one that works and is cheap, somebody knows
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