<kantraa>
Dumbass Of The Year Award goes to me for not realizing that my CPU is 64 bit and handicapping myself by installing 32 bit Haiku
<furrygang[m]>
poor you
<nephele_xmpp>
kantraa: The “only” problem is that programms can then only map up to 2 (or 3?)GB of virtual memory
<dovsienko>
I did the same with Linux a few times when 64-bit CPUs were just starting to become common
<dovsienko>
x86 CPUs, that is
<nephele_xmpp>
other than that you will have some performance gains you might miss out on, but no big deal really
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<HussainKhan[m]>
Hey everyone! I want to participate in gsoc this year and found your org really cool! I wanted to ask if there's an idea page or a wiki that would let me see the project ideas for this year
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<OscarL>
andreasdr[m]: a patch for "fish" on HaikuPorts seems to indicate it was a bit broken around 2017, not sure if it still applies.
<andreasdr[m]>
I can try later if it works on Beta5
<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning OscarL
<OscarL>
hello there andreasdr[m] :-)
<OscarL>
I only know spawn from having switched Python 3.12 to use that instead of fork for multithreading, but I'm not sure what Python's "spawn" actually calls down under :-D
<OscarL>
s/multithreading/multiprocessing/
<Begasus[m]>
g'morning OscarL!
<OscarL>
'lo there Begasus[m]!
<janking>
i dont no were to upload it andreasdr[m]
<OscarL>
andreasdr[m]: FWIW, I'm only seeing a couple of bug reports about posix_spawn on Trac, and both marked as fixed 6 years ago.
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<andreasdr[m]>
Nice.
<andreasdr[m]>
OscarL :)
<andreasdr[m]>
janking: maybe ask some haiku peeps. Dont know how to do it too.
<janking>
ok andreasdr[m]
* janking
is idle: BRB
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<N516[m]>
* fill in the form, pretty please, I need people for my thesis (school project) and I've run out of acquaintances so I'm posting it online. It's about cognition and usage of technology, thank you very much:
<OscarL>
Reading specs about Intel's Core 3-N350... 8 cores at 3.9 GHz, @ 7 W... sounds like it would be an awesome CPU for HaikuPorts builders! (wish I could get something that efficient instead of my 95W Phenom :-D)
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<OscarL>
Mmm, apparently we can now buy from sellers in the USA on our local "amazon/ebay" equivalent. Mini PC with an Alder-Lake N95, 8 GB, 256 GB SSD... about 212 U$D... sounds tempting!
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<Begasus_32>
re
<Begasus_32>
keep hitting: ffmpegaudio.cc:(.text+0x487): undefined reference to `swr_alloc_set_opts' (goldendict)
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<mikezt>
hello
<BrunoSpr>
hi
<HaikuUser>
hiho
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<Begasus_32>
bah, stupid one liner for goldendict :)
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<BrunoSpr>
Hopefully this Version will work without problems on HAIKU
<Begasus_32>
it has been for a while BrunoSpr (goldendict), rebuilding on buildmaster for tiff4
<Begasus[m]>
2 remaining OscarL
<Begasus[m]>
blender is too broken to update requirements
<OscarL>
way too go Begasus[m], good work!
<OscarL>
so no 3.10 on blender, eh? Oh well :-(
<OscarL>
as long as it is only the main Python 3.9 package that it is required... not that difficult to keep that one alive, even after EOL...
<OscarL>
what I don't really want to do is maintain "_python39" packages :-D
<Begasus_32>
blender3 isn't in the running
<Begasus_32>
it's the 2* version
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<Begasus_32>
Error: problem 1: package poppler23_x86_devel-23.09.0-3 conflicts with poppler22_x86_devel provided by poppler22_x86_devel-22.01.0-4
<Begasus_32>
man!! you don't know how many times I installed/uninstalled those packages
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<OscarL>
Begasus_32: blender 2.79b still has 'PYTHON_VERSION="3.9"' in it, that's why I mentioned.
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<Begasus_32>
ah my bad, misread :)
<Begasus_32>
checking gimp atm here
<Begasus_32>
doing a build for tiff4 on the other 32bit to rip out the _devel package for blender
<OscarL>
sometimes I have like 20/30 states_*, all when testing one or two packages and their interactions (and doing repeated build because I'm dumb :-D)
<OscarL>
mikezt: if you're not sure where under "/dev/disks/..." your usb stick landed... you can use "tail -f /var/log/syslog", and THEN plug in your usb, IIRC, you should be able to see where it lands that way.
<PetePete>
Mornin, Begleg
<PetePete>
Oscar.
<Begasus_32>
in KDL OscarL? :P
<Begasus_32>
Hi PetePete
<OscarL>
mikezt: or use DriveSetup... should make it easier to see what the correct device path is.
<OscarL>
Hello PetePete :-)
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<Begasus_32>
k, tiff4 recipe should be good to re-enable only the base package
<OscarL>
Begasus_32: let's just hope he doesn't has my "good" luck on that regard :-P
<Begasus_32>
heh
<Anarchos>
OscarL a faster way is to run 'eject" without arguments
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* Begasus_32
sees all things popping out of the laptop suddenly
<OscarL>
Anarchos: assuming there's only one device connected, that works too.
<mikezt>
OscarL: nice! Hard time for a novice :-)
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<OscarL>
mikezt: pluging in the usb device, then opening DriveSetup shoould be the "easiest". You'll be able to see the storage sizes for confirmation. Just remember to write the image into the "[...]/raw" device (meanining whole "disk", and not partitions)
<Anarchos>
OscarL even with two, it displays so the name of the usb keys, so if there are not of same model, you can know.
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<Anarchos>
OscarL there is also 'listusb'
<mikezt>
OscarL: got it, the image is beeing written now
<mikezt>
lstusb is nice too, but I find the syslog the best way to see what device is the usb stick
<mikezt>
*listusb
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<OscarL>
Anarchos: there's also "pkgman install usbdeskbar", but that one unfortunally doesn't lists the /dev/ path :-D
<Anarchos>
OscarL i didn't know this one, let me try :)
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<OscarL>
Be nicer if it showed said path and allowed to copying it to clipboard. Patches welcomed! :-D
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<OscarL>
"VMWare Virtual USB Mouse: Mouse", and darn thing appears as "USB Mouse 1", "Extended PS/2 Mouse 1" *and* as "USB Tablet 1" all at once under Input preflet :-D
<OscarL>
no wonder mouse integration tends to stops working after a while.
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<OscarL>
middle button works on terminal, but Input preflet doesn't even shows it, heh.
<OscarL>
does sometimes, might be another borked microswitch.
<Begasus_32>
no way to know if it's actually the middle one then? :P
<PeetPeet>
I asked coolcoder613 the other day, "who's the best coder in the community?" He said, "Me." I said, "prove it." Then he sent me this and told me not to tell anyone: https://streamable.com/2idy1b
<PeetPeet>
I thought it wasn't fair to keep it a secret.
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<OscarL>
I'm guessing it works by taking a still from each workspace, while you "play around" with them (noticed the static ActivityMonitor graph and "paused" video). Looks nice, though :-)
<PeetPeet>
Four screenshots set as wallpapers. Itook a separate screenshot of the terminal and opened it in imagemagic (no menus) and turned off the window decorations. haha
<OscarL>
PeetPeet: ever seen 3DMov in action? Seeing several videos playing in "pages" of a 3d book... in the early 2000s was just insane.
<PeetPeet>
That sounds awesome. I love old school stuff
<zdykstra>
early 2000s isn't old school... shoot, that's 20 to 25 years old.
<OscarL>
is available on the depot, not sure how well handles newer media formats.
<PeetPeet>
I'll have to check it out
<OscarL>
heh, it even includes a cube among the selectable "shapes" :-D
<PeetPeet>
I don't care about compiz effects in Haiku. I have that in other OSes. I would love to have a fully encrytped Haiku phone though!
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<PeetPeet>
With grouped windows snappy response, and excellent media support, Haiku would make such a killer phone OS
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<OscarL>
I used to have a Haiku theme for my Nokia 5200. That think looked beautiful :-D
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<mikezt>
I'm still thinking '80ties were just 20 years ago
<PeetPeet>
mikezt: me too
<Anarchos>
mikezt no 40 :)
<PeetPeet>
You know what's REALLY messed up though? I have this recurring dream where I am old (like 43) and then I wake up in my dream (still in my dream) and I'm relieved that I'm still 17 and I think, "PHEW! That's still a long ways off!" and then... THEN I REALLY wake up and I'm 43. And I grimace every single time :(
<PeetPeet>
I hate that dream.
<Anarchos>
mikezt i bought BeOS 27y ago :/
<mikezt>
Anarchos: I bought my first PC 22 years ago :-)
<PeetPeet>
25 for me. IT was a 233
<PeetPeet>
I had a 128KB high speed connection. Life was good.
<PeetPeet>
Can't type.. need more coffee.. 43 year old hands are just riddled with arthritis
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<PeetPeet>
Did I read that someone was testing GIMP package again?
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<PeetPeet>
I could use me some GIMP in Haiku
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<OscarL>
2.99.18 is available on 64 bits, PeetPeet. Begasus_32 is trying to fix the 32 bits version.
<PeetPeet>
OscarL: is that recent? I think the last time I tried it, it was a broken package and wouldn't run
<OscarL>
no clue. I avoid big packages.
<PeetPeet>
Do you use any image editors?
<OscarL>
also... I can't draw a straight line even with the help of a ruler, so... no need for drawing programs here :-P
<PeetPeet>
I tried Krita (which I used in the past) but it was too different from GIMP and I had a hard time achieving things
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<OscarL>
Begasus_32: I think "hp --list-dependencies" just became useful. Used it for the llvm{12,19} recipes, just to see if llvm9 is needed for those. Seems not. (on the other hand... llvm12 is listed for all, and llvm18 too for llvm19
<OscarL>
did BrunoSpr uninstalled mesa, or something?
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<BrunoSpr>
hm, might be I deinstalled it somehow
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<BrunoSpr>
ok, which one to install now?
<OscarL>
question might be... what did you uninstalled first?
<BrunoSpr>
Because the other GL-Demos run just fine!?
<BrunoSpr>
Ah ok Haiku 3D does not run
<BrunoSpr>
no idea maybe ffmpeg6 then 5 then 4 then installed them again
<scanty>
glteapot runs very fast, despite the lack of hard 3d.
<OscarL>
ffmpeg should have nothing to do with GL, BrunoSpr.
<BrunoSpr>
Hmm?
<OscarL>
mesa, lavapipe, some llvm libs..
<OscarL>
those are the ones I'd check.
<BrunoSpr>
mesa might be
<OscarL>
GLTeapot wants "libGLU.so.1" and "libGL.so.1"
<OscarL>
(directly wants, as in... it links to those)
<OscarL>
BrunoSpr: FWIW, on beta5, with functioning GLTeapot, I have "mesa 22.0.5-3", "mesa_swpipe 22.0.5-3", and "libvm12" installed.
<OscarL>
*libvm12_libs
<OscarL>
grrr, "llvm12_libs"
<Begasus_32>
grabbing gimp_x86-2.99.18-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg and moving it to /boot/home/haikuports/packages/gimp_x86-2.99.18-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<Begasus_32>
:)
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<Begasus_32>
eeps
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<Begasus_32>
crashes :P
<PeetPeet>
What is GLTeapot for?
<OscarL>
To get GL tea, of course.
<PeetPeet>
Sorry.. What is GL tea?
<PeetPeet>
Oh my gosh...
<PeetPeet>
STOP
<PeetPeet>
DON'T DO IT
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<PeetPeet>
I'm operating on ONE... ONE cup of coffee
<PeetPeet>
It's not MY fault that open source software has such silly names
<OscarL>
PeetPeet: just a demo program, to see if the "GL" 3D graphics pipeline is working.