<kantraa>
Dumbass Of The Year Award goes to me for not realizing that my CPU is 64 bit and handicapping myself by installing 32 bit Haiku
<furrygang[m]>
poor you
<nephele_xmpp>
kantraa: The “only” problem is that programms can then only map up to 2 (or 3?)GB of virtual memory
<dovsienko>
I did the same with Linux a few times when 64-bit CPUs were just starting to become common
<dovsienko>
x86 CPUs, that is
<nephele_xmpp>
other than that you will have some performance gains you might miss out on, but no big deal really
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<HussainKhan[m]>
Hey everyone! I want to participate in gsoc this year and found your org really cool! I wanted to ask if there's an idea page or a wiki that would let me see the project ideas for this year
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<OscarL>
andreasdr[m]: a patch for "fish" on HaikuPorts seems to indicate it was a bit broken around 2017, not sure if it still applies.
<andreasdr[m]>
I can try later if it works on Beta5
<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning OscarL
<OscarL>
hello there andreasdr[m] :-)
<OscarL>
I only know spawn from having switched Python 3.12 to use that instead of fork for multithreading, but I'm not sure what Python's "spawn" actually calls down under :-D
<OscarL>
s/multithreading/multiprocessing/
<Begasus[m]>
g'morning OscarL!
<OscarL>
'lo there Begasus[m]!
<janking>
i dont no were to upload it andreasdr[m]
<OscarL>
andreasdr[m]: FWIW, I'm only seeing a couple of bug reports about posix_spawn on Trac, and both marked as fixed 6 years ago.
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<andreasdr[m]>
Nice.
<andreasdr[m]>
OscarL :)
<andreasdr[m]>
janking: maybe ask some haiku peeps. Dont know how to do it too.
<janking>
ok andreasdr[m]
* janking
is idle: BRB
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<N516[m]>
* fill in the form, pretty please, I need people for my thesis (school project) and I've run out of acquaintances so I'm posting it online. It's about cognition and usage of technology, thank you very much:
<OscarL>
Reading specs about Intel's Core 3-N350... 8 cores at 3.9 GHz, @ 7 W... sounds like it would be an awesome CPU for HaikuPorts builders! (wish I could get something that efficient instead of my 95W Phenom :-D)
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<OscarL>
Mmm, apparently we can now buy from sellers in the USA on our local "amazon/ebay" equivalent. Mini PC with an Alder-Lake N95, 8 GB, 256 GB SSD... about 212 U$D... sounds tempting!
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<Begasus_32>
re
<Begasus_32>
keep hitting: ffmpegaudio.cc:(.text+0x487): undefined reference to `swr_alloc_set_opts' (goldendict)
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<mikezt>
hello
<BrunoSpr>
hi
<HaikuUser>
hiho
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<Begasus_32>
bah, stupid one liner for goldendict :)
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<BrunoSpr>
Hopefully this Version will work without problems on HAIKU
<Begasus_32>
it has been for a while BrunoSpr (goldendict), rebuilding on buildmaster for tiff4
<Begasus[m]>
2 remaining OscarL
<Begasus[m]>
blender is too broken to update requirements
<OscarL>
way too go Begasus[m], good work!
<OscarL>
so no 3.10 on blender, eh? Oh well :-(
<OscarL>
as long as it is only the main Python 3.9 package that it is required... not that difficult to keep that one alive, even after EOL...
<OscarL>
what I don't really want to do is maintain "_python39" packages :-D
<Begasus_32>
blender3 isn't in the running
<Begasus_32>
it's the 2* version
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<Begasus_32>
Error: problem 1: package poppler23_x86_devel-23.09.0-3 conflicts with poppler22_x86_devel provided by poppler22_x86_devel-22.01.0-4
<Begasus_32>
man!! you don't know how many times I installed/uninstalled those packages
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<OscarL>
Begasus_32: blender 2.79b still has 'PYTHON_VERSION="3.9"' in it, that's why I mentioned.
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<Begasus_32>
ah my bad, misread :)
<Begasus_32>
checking gimp atm here
<Begasus_32>
doing a build for tiff4 on the other 32bit to rip out the _devel package for blender
<OscarL>
sometimes I have like 20/30 states_*, all when testing one or two packages and their interactions (and doing repeated build because I'm dumb :-D)
<OscarL>
mikezt: if you're not sure where under "/dev/disks/..." your usb stick landed... you can use "tail -f /var/log/syslog", and THEN plug in your usb, IIRC, you should be able to see where it lands that way.
<PetePete>
Mornin, Begleg
<PetePete>
Oscar.
<Begasus_32>
in KDL OscarL? :P
<Begasus_32>
Hi PetePete
<OscarL>
mikezt: or use DriveSetup... should make it easier to see what the correct device path is.
<OscarL>
Hello PetePete :-)
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<Begasus_32>
k, tiff4 recipe should be good to re-enable only the base package
<OscarL>
Begasus_32: let's just hope he doesn't has my "good" luck on that regard :-P
<Begasus_32>
heh
<Anarchos>
OscarL a faster way is to run 'eject" without arguments
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* Begasus_32
sees all things popping out of the laptop suddenly
<OscarL>
Anarchos: assuming there's only one device connected, that works too.
<mikezt>
OscarL: nice! Hard time for a novice :-)
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<OscarL>
mikezt: pluging in the usb device, then opening DriveSetup shoould be the "easiest". You'll be able to see the storage sizes for confirmation. Just remember to write the image into the "[...]/raw" device (meanining whole "disk", and not partitions)
<Anarchos>
OscarL even with two, it displays so the name of the usb keys, so if there are not of same model, you can know.
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<Anarchos>
OscarL there is also 'listusb'
<mikezt>
OscarL: got it, the image is beeing written now
<mikezt>
lstusb is nice too, but I find the syslog the best way to see what device is the usb stick
<mikezt>
*listusb
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<OscarL>
Anarchos: there's also "pkgman install usbdeskbar", but that one unfortunally doesn't lists the /dev/ path :-D
<Anarchos>
OscarL i didn't know this one, let me try :)
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<OscarL>
Be nicer if it showed said path and allowed to copying it to clipboard. Patches welcomed! :-D
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<OscarL>
"VMWare Virtual USB Mouse: Mouse", and darn thing appears as "USB Mouse 1", "Extended PS/2 Mouse 1" *and* as "USB Tablet 1" all at once under Input preflet :-D
<OscarL>
no wonder mouse integration tends to stops working after a while.
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<OscarL>
middle button works on terminal, but Input preflet doesn't even shows it, heh.
<OscarL>
does sometimes, might be another borked microswitch.
<Begasus_32>
no way to know if it's actually the middle one then? :P
<PeetPeet>
I asked coolcoder613 the other day, "who's the best coder in the community?" He said, "Me." I said, "prove it." Then he sent me this and told me not to tell anyone: https://streamable.com/2idy1b
<PeetPeet>
I thought it wasn't fair to keep it a secret.
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<OscarL>
I'm guessing it works by taking a still from each workspace, while you "play around" with them (noticed the static ActivityMonitor graph and "paused" video). Looks nice, though :-)
<PeetPeet>
Four screenshots set as wallpapers. Itook a separate screenshot of the terminal and opened it in imagemagic (no menus) and turned off the window decorations. haha
<OscarL>
PeetPeet: ever seen 3DMov in action? Seeing several videos playing in "pages" of a 3d book... in the early 2000s was just insane.
<PeetPeet>
That sounds awesome. I love old school stuff
<zdykstra>
early 2000s isn't old school... shoot, that's 20 to 25 years old.
<OscarL>
is available on the depot, not sure how well handles newer media formats.
<PeetPeet>
I'll have to check it out
<OscarL>
heh, it even includes a cube among the selectable "shapes" :-D
<PeetPeet>
I don't care about compiz effects in Haiku. I have that in other OSes. I would love to have a fully encrytped Haiku phone though!
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<PeetPeet>
With grouped windows snappy response, and excellent media support, Haiku would make such a killer phone OS
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<OscarL>
I used to have a Haiku theme for my Nokia 5200. That think looked beautiful :-D
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<mikezt>
I'm still thinking '80ties were just 20 years ago
<PeetPeet>
mikezt: me too
<Anarchos>
mikezt no 40 :)
<PeetPeet>
You know what's REALLY messed up though? I have this recurring dream where I am old (like 43) and then I wake up in my dream (still in my dream) and I'm relieved that I'm still 17 and I think, "PHEW! That's still a long ways off!" and then... THEN I REALLY wake up and I'm 43. And I grimace every single time :(
<PeetPeet>
I hate that dream.
<Anarchos>
mikezt i bought BeOS 27y ago :/
<mikezt>
Anarchos: I bought my first PC 22 years ago :-)
<PeetPeet>
25 for me. IT was a 233
<PeetPeet>
I had a 128KB high speed connection. Life was good.
<PeetPeet>
Can't type.. need more coffee.. 43 year old hands are just riddled with arthritis
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<PeetPeet>
Did I read that someone was testing GIMP package again?
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<PeetPeet>
I could use me some GIMP in Haiku
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<OscarL>
2.99.18 is available on 64 bits, PeetPeet. Begasus_32 is trying to fix the 32 bits version.
<PeetPeet>
OscarL: is that recent? I think the last time I tried it, it was a broken package and wouldn't run
<OscarL>
no clue. I avoid big packages.
<PeetPeet>
Do you use any image editors?
<OscarL>
also... I can't draw a straight line even with the help of a ruler, so... no need for drawing programs here :-P
<PeetPeet>
I tried Krita (which I used in the past) but it was too different from GIMP and I had a hard time achieving things
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<OscarL>
Begasus_32: I think "hp --list-dependencies" just became useful. Used it for the llvm{12,19} recipes, just to see if llvm9 is needed for those. Seems not. (on the other hand... llvm12 is listed for all, and llvm18 too for llvm19
<OscarL>
did BrunoSpr uninstalled mesa, or something?
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<BrunoSpr>
hm, might be I deinstalled it somehow
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<BrunoSpr>
ok, which one to install now?
<OscarL>
question might be... what did you uninstalled first?
<BrunoSpr>
Because the other GL-Demos run just fine!?
<BrunoSpr>
Ah ok Haiku 3D does not run
<BrunoSpr>
no idea maybe ffmpeg6 then 5 then 4 then installed them again
<scanty>
glteapot runs very fast, despite the lack of hard 3d.
<OscarL>
ffmpeg should have nothing to do with GL, BrunoSpr.
<BrunoSpr>
Hmm?
<OscarL>
mesa, lavapipe, some llvm libs..
<OscarL>
those are the ones I'd check.
<BrunoSpr>
mesa might be
<OscarL>
GLTeapot wants "libGLU.so.1" and "libGL.so.1"
<OscarL>
(directly wants, as in... it links to those)
<OscarL>
BrunoSpr: FWIW, on beta5, with functioning GLTeapot, I have "mesa 22.0.5-3", "mesa_swpipe 22.0.5-3", and "libvm12" installed.
<OscarL>
*libvm12_libs
<OscarL>
grrr, "llvm12_libs"
<Begasus_32>
grabbing gimp_x86-2.99.18-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg and moving it to /boot/home/haikuports/packages/gimp_x86-2.99.18-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<Begasus_32>
:)
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<Begasus_32>
eeps
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<Begasus_32>
crashes :P
<PeetPeet>
What is GLTeapot for?
<OscarL>
To get GL tea, of course.
<PeetPeet>
Sorry.. What is GL tea?
<PeetPeet>
Oh my gosh...
<PeetPeet>
STOP
<PeetPeet>
DON'T DO IT
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<PeetPeet>
I'm operating on ONE... ONE cup of coffee
<PeetPeet>
It's not MY fault that open source software has such silly names
<OscarL>
PeetPeet: just a demo program, to see if the "GL" 3D graphics pipeline is working.
<Begasus[m]>
now no-one touching untill it's done :P
<kallisti5[m]>
i've been poking at the new buildmaster... I need to get us migrated over to it.
<Begasus[m]>
+1
<kallisti5[m]>
The big change is artifacts go to s3 now. The blocker is our cdn has been doing weird caching issues which scares me a little
<Begasus[m]>
will be a lot faster?
<kallisti5[m]>
probably a bit. Less hoops. mmlr did the work
<Begasus[m]>
or mainly storage space?
<OscarL>
"i'm guessing it was showing a debugger prompt" <<< can't you add an "auto-kill" setting in "~/config/settings/system/debug_server/settings" ?
<kallisti5[m]>
and storage space.
<kallisti5[m]>
OscarL: that's news to me. let me look
<PeetPeet>
mmmmmm Haiku VoIP desktop phones with touchscreens....
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<scanty>
good morning.
<Begasus>
Hi scanty!
<PeetPeet>
Surely Kodi does not run on Haiku... I would replace my main media center with Haiku in a second
<scanty>
hi there Begasus, how are you, my belgian friend?
<PeetPeet>
Hi scanty
<scanty>
hello, PeetPeet
<Habbie>
kodi appears to be open source, so perhaps somebody can port it
* OscarL
waves at scanty.
<kallisti5[m]>
OscarL: i think it's checked out continuously? Unsure. For the workers.. it may just be me logging in and pulling the latest
<kallisti5[m]>
however... with the s3 change partially in-flight... it might be a bad idea to do latest.
* scanty
waves back at OscaL :-)
<scanty>
what a nice reception, i got. thanks guys :)
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<Begasus>
Fine here thanks scanty :)
<Begasus>
all good there?
<scanty>
yeah, more or less...
<OscarL>
"group hug"... now get back to coding your lazy bunch!
<PeetPeet>
lol
<Begasus>
heh
<scanty>
can't complain right now. it's -1C, and my apartment is nice and toasty
<Begasus>
we got snow! :D
<scanty>
we had a little bit of snow last week.
<scanty>
most of it has melted, so for whatever turned to ice.
<PeetPeet>
-1C??? That's almost -.976857464435 C !!! holy crap!
<scanty>
save for whatever*
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<Begasus[m]>
https://ibb.co/N6b1GLw (picture from earlier today, snow will stay for a few days) :)
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<scanty>
loading...
<scanty>
oh that is quite a lot of snow! is that normal for winters there?
<PeetPeet>
dangit... my math is terrible....
<PeetPeet>
that should've been -1.00243756 C
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<scanty>
they're linear. you shouldn't have funky decimals if you convert.
<Begasus[m]>
scanty it's winter :)
<scanty>
and they are equal, at some low number that i don't remember offhand.
<scanty>
Begasus[m]: yeah, but some people get less snow or more snow, so i was just curious if that was a typical amount.
<PeetPeet>
scanty it was more a joke about the scale of Celsius
<scanty>
i guess i didn't get the joke, then.
<scanty>
sorry!
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<Begasus>
scanty, nothing it normal these days, back in the old days we had lots more snow :)
<scanty>
i see. i think we did as well.
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<scanty>
winters seem warmer, even though it is quite cold. it's not too bad, but it can get very windy here, and that is just unpleasant.
<scanty>
i recall one night in november, i needed the air conditioner to sleep.
<Begasus>
OscarL, checked if LLVM9 can still be build in case of? ;)
<OscarL>
I rather download a copy of current packages then :-D
<Begasus>
doesn't help the buildmasters :P
<OscarL>
wonder if older packages are sent to ".obsolete", or just discarded, in that case.
<scanty>
anyone know where i can get the glib2_source package? think link on HaikuDepot is broken.
<Begasus>
they co-exist, so not obsolete
<Begasus>
scanty, you can't get source packages iirc
<OscarL>
Begasus: I mean if the PR dropping the recipe gets merged.
<scanty>
why not, and why are they there, then?
<Begasus>
ah, not sure where those end up OscarL, that's one for kallisti5[m]
<scanty>
there meaning listed.
<Begasus>
no idea scanty :)
<Begasus>
I guess they are only used as fall-back
<Begasus>
when upstream link is broken or the like?
<scanty>
I want to update to a newer version so i can try and build gnu backgammon.
<OscarL>
scanty: legalese reasons (think GPL "make sources available if distributing binaries"), AFAIK.
<Begasus>
scanty, that one is in the depot? cli though
<OscarL>
but you can't install them so....
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<scanty>
okay now i am really confused.
<Begasus>
gnubg The GNU BackGammon
<scanty>
yes, it requires glib2.8.0 or higher, and we have 2.7.8
<OscarL>
and my "download_hpkg" bash function also chokes on _source.hpkg, so no idea how one can get them, (even if just to open them with Beezer or /bin/package)
<Begasus>
install package gnubg-1.07.001-1 from repository HaikuPorts -> scanty
<Begasus>
but you're welcome to update glib :)
<OscarL>
scanty: you can apparently download them via HaikuDepot server.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 16e17faf59ed - kernel/vm: Block teams from cloning read-only areas with write permissions.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 9eae4e9bd4f8 - kernel/vm & libroot/os: Move selection of B_RANDOMIZED to libroot.
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<Anarchos>
if i do a «git switch», is it sufficent to do a «jam clean», or must i lauch a more radical cleaning command ?
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<OscarL>
no ned to clean stuff manually.
<OscarL>
jam will rebuild what's necessary (and far more than necessary, seems to me)
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<Anarchos>
OscarL i have trouble with anyboot.iso put on a usb key.
<OscarL>
problems present on more than one computer?
<Anarchos>
i can test on another if you want
<OscarL>
are you able to boot that .iso on a VM?
<Anarchos>
OscarL i never used vm on haiku cause they were to slow
<OscarL>
Anarchos: not that I "want", just trying to figure out where the problem might be.
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<Anarchos>
OscarL ok i will thest hte key on this laptop , so i will reboot on it.
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<Anarchos>
OscarL lots of "bfs replay run in log' seems the bfs was corrupted
<OscarL>
maybe try dd'nig the drive with /dev/zero, before re-writting a new image too.
<OscarL>
not sure if you can mount the bfs on the anyboot iso and run checkfs on it :-)
<Anarchos>
OscarL i did
<OscarL>
so might be better to just try to create a new .iso.
<Anarchos>
i do it for days : jam -j5 @nightly-anyboot
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<PeatPeat>
Where mah updates at??
<OscarL>
Anarchos: no idea if we have any tools to do "surface-level" checks on devices. I usually run HDAT2 (D.O.S. tool) on HDDs, but haven't had to do much on flash-based devices yet, so no idea what's best there.
<Anarchos>
i will try with another usb key
<OscarL>
PeatPeat: news-flash! beta5 still stable and less often updated! More news at 11!
<OscarL>
PeatPeat: if you like it more spicy... switch to nightlies :-)
<PeatPeat>
HaikuDepot tells me that it cannot refresh HaikuPorts. Why is that?
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<OscarL>
works here.
<OscarL>
what "uname -v" says if you run it on Termninal?
<PeatPeat>
hrev56578+96 May 6 2024 06:02:
<OscarL>
that's way too old
<PeatPeat>
It only gives me that error when I run update check. Seems to refresh okay if I just refresh repos
<OscarL>
beta4, that's why you're missing out updates.
<OscarL>
if all goes well, you'll be on beta5. otherwise, try to use the boot menu to select the previosly working state.
* Anarchos
thinks we really should do an « alias reboot=shutdown -r »
<OscarL>
send a changeset Anarchos! :-)
<PeatPeat>
libreoffice requires libpoppler blah blah but none of the providers can be installed. Should I uninstall libreoffice?
<Anarchos>
OscarL last time i send a change set for "Welcome to the Haiku shell " with Haiku spelled with red and blue underlined letter (like in the old BeOS prompt), it was rejected :(
<OscarL>
heck. even my /bin/poke uses some color on "Haiku" before the prompt :-D
<OscarL>
mmmm, we even have an: 'alias m="more"' in profile that I never ever use... alias reboot="shutdown -r" sounds way more convetient :-)
<OscarL>
Anarchos: you can "defend" your proposal by saying... hey... it is just for consistency with the command already present on KDL.
<PeatPeat>
Bunch of software says I have to decide whether to keep package from excluded repository or remove them. Never seen this. What is recommended?
<OscarL>
(sure that will get it throgh :-D)
<OscarL>
PeatPeat: dispair, tequila... or... ¿por queé no las dos?
<Anarchos>
PeatPeat really, it depends on your needs.
<Anarchos>
OscarL will try do those patchset again :)
<PeatPeat>
Does it mean those packages will likely not install again?
<OscarL>
Some stuff might not be needed anymore...
<OscarL>
or older versions conflict with newer stuff.. hard to tell without seeing the actual and full messages.
<augiedoggie>
i remove all of those weird aliases and the welcome message, drives me nuts
<PeatPeat>
libpoppler cannot be installed for newer libreoffice. ffmpeg (some version) cannot be installed for yt-downloader
<OscarL>
alias ls="ls--color-auto" ain't that bad augiedoggie :-)
<OscarL>
(but the rest... never used them)
<PeatPeat>
I feel bad asking these stupid questions.
<PeatPeat>
screw it... I'll just remove them and deal with missing stuff... not the end of the world I suppose
<OscarL>
PeatPeat: Libreoffice and yt-dlp do work still. You'll most likely be able to re-install stuff later if something's missing.
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<PeatPeat>
OscarL knows how to qwel my fears
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<OscarL>
important is to get all the updates from "Haiku" repo (and the ones from HaikuPorts that Haiku needs, like OpenSSL3). then a reboot... if beta5 works... worry about the missing bits.
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<OscarL>
64 bits builder might have some rubbish from previous builds: "[Errno -2147459064] Read-only file system: '.self'" (after "Cleaning work directory of numpy-1.26.0 ...")
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<OscarL>
still build seems to be progressing just fine. Third time's the charm, I guess
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<kallisti5[m]>
waddlesplash is wiring up all the spam ^^
<waddlesplash>
thnx kallisti5[m]
<waddlesplash>
augiedoggie and Begasus[m] will be happy :)
<augiedoggie>
nice, does that include the messages that were going to #haiku-3rdparty too?
<waddlesplash>
no, sorry
<waddlesplash>
just Haiku and HaikuPorts
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<waddlesplash>
configuring those would be trickier for a bunch of reasons
<augiedoggie>
yeah
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<Anarchos>
OscarL ok thfirst usb key died (thanks for the help to investigate !!)
<PeatPeat>
wew lads... these updates are still running
<OscarL>
Anarchos: np. sorry about the dead drive :-(
<Anarchos>
OscarL it was from 2006.... so not unpredictable !)
<OscarL>
Heh :-)
<OscarL>
PeatPeat: beta4's was pretty slow for downloading stuff. That might explain the long process.
<PeatPeat>
Ah..
<PeatPeat>
I'm cool. I like that it feels like I'm getting a lot :)
<PeatPeat>
More bang for my buck
<OscarL>
as long as it is "bang" and not "boom!"...
<PeatPeat>
zactly.
<OscarL>
worst case scenario... reinstalling Haiku from a newer .iso image ain't even that hard.
<PeatPeat>
OscarL the only problem with that is that I spent days getting the dark theme to work and I don't remember how I did it but it was involved... and there is NO documentation online about it (for obvious reasons)
<waddlesplash>
it's much easier in beta5
<waddlesplash>
the Appearance panel does most of the work for you
<PeatPeat>
Well.. I'm using MoonFlat
<PeatPeat>
I shouldn't be so superficial but I really really love this theme
<OscarL>
PeatPeat: if updating doesn't work... I'd re-install over the current install, should preserve settings. Only if that also doesn't works I'd consider a clean install.
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<PeatPeat>
Seems to be working. It's just a little slow
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<OscarL>
(being able to just nuke /system/packages from a different install, and even manually replacing that dir from a working .iso image, and ending up with a working system in less than 3 minutes... priceless :-P)
<Anarchos>
OscarL isn't /system read-only ?
<OscarL>
the one on the boot volume, yes, but not all dirs under it are.
<OscarL>
what I mean its... you boot from a different drive, say USB... and then mount the "not-working" /Haiku1/system... you can do whatever there.
<Anarchos>
OscarL oh sure :)
<PeatPeat>
be right back! (hopefully)
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<OscarL>
Narrator: "and never heard from him again"
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<PeatPeat>
gimp wants to uninstall cairo
<PeatPeat>
I guess that's okay... though in Linux, that's related to compositor
<OscarL>
we need (or at least don't have :-P) any stinky compositor!!! off with it!
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<OscarL>
wb PeatPeat, btw.
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<PeatPeat>
Thanks :)
<PeatPeat>
What is cairo used for?
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<PeatPeat>
This Sonic game plays so smoothly
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<Anarchos>
PeatPeat i think it is a graphic compositor
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<PeatPeat>
but Neverball is choppy... that's weird
<PeatPeat>
I could swear Neverball played smoothly before.
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<Anarchos>
waddlesplash if i call ioctl on /dev/disk/scsi/0/0/0/raw, which version of ioct will be called first ? devfs or scsi_disk ?
<waddlesplash>
devfs
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<Anarchos>
waddlesplash ok. now to my final test then :)
<Anarchos>
PeatPeat oh we have a sonic game ?
<PeatPeat>
Anarchos Yep. It's fun. Doom style
<PeatPeat>
I wish Neverball was as smooth as Sonic
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<AlienSoldier>
I wonder if we could get a port of Sonic Galactic.
<AlienSoldier>
there is also a port of sonic mania to dreamcast in the work, perhaps we could compile that also eventually.
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* Anarchos
is adding some TRACE...
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<Anarchos>
waddlesplash all the leaf files in /dev are special character files, even if the underlying device is a block device ?