<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] e17a9b1ee0f2 - Web+ Bookmark bar: Fixes, added "Show in Tracker"
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<Begasus[m]>
moin humdinger :)
<humdinger>
hullo!
<Begasus[m]>
fpcupdeluxe does a good job building lazarus on 32bit, can't just pin it when using my buildscript there
<Krutarthpatel[m]>
hello, I am writing a driver and I need to output something for debug purposes during the boot process to the output you get onscreen when you enable screen debug output in the bootloader. How do I do that?
<humdinger>
Krutarthpatel[m]: I'd say that's the syslog.
<humdinger>
include syslog.h
<humdinger>
the call "syslog(LOG_INFO, "your text here")
<humdinger>
*then
<Krutarthpatel[m]>
humdinger: ill try it out, thanks!
<nekobot>
• threedeyes (1a85e3a8): Telegram: bump version
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<Begasus[m]>
seein it before I think: /boot/system/develop/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/13.3.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-haiku/bin/ld: cannot find -lcrypt: No such file or directory
<Begasus[m]>
a Haiku issue?
<jmairboeck>
Begasus[m]: looks like a missing devel:libcrypt dependency
<Begasus[m]>
we don't have that jmairboeck ?
<Begasus[m]>
already got devel:libcrypto, but that's not the one, seems related to glibc?
<nekobot>
• korli (01b26e2d): xxhash: bump version
<nekobot>
• korli (e88492be): mbedtls: bump version
<Begasus[m]>
thanks jmairboeck , that worked :)
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<Habbie>
waddlesplash, it rebooted
<Habbie>
28 minutes ago
<Habbie>
so it lasted two hours
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<akashkumar>
hey, how you quickly find out all the references of a function i.e. from where a function is called. take for example transportcontrolgroup::mesagerecieved, how to find where it is called from ?
<Habbie>
an editor with LSP integration with clangd helps a lot
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<nekobot>
• korli (bb4793f2): mbedtls: fix include and pkgconfig location
<Skipp_OSX>
Once the build bot verifies my changes I'd like to submit Tracker shortcuts + 6. I have tested it and everything is now working. I updated the back half patches which also work. Most of the stack could go except the last two patches plus the ones I marked WIP.
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<Skipp_OSX>
last chance to complain, well not really, but before inclusion.
<phschafft>
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<phschafft>
nephele_xmpp: haha. after wie discussed the topic a little ;)
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<nephele_xmpp>
phschafft: hmm?
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<phschafft>
copy and paste and drag and drop and all those things.
<Skipp_OSX>
I'm sorry if you didn't get a chance to complain but I use those menu items a lot... plus there was no way to Paste to Desktop using a menu.
<nephele_xmpp>
skipp_osx: the delete shortcut for playlists is now marked as a merge conflict :/
<Skipp_OSX>
because I merged below, that's normal
<Skipp_OSX>
normal for Gerrit anyway...
<nephele_xmpp>
phscafft: anyway, that commit is a bit badly named, in actuallity it just removes the condition for adding these items to the menu so they are always around
<phschafft>
nephele_xmpp: still it's improving the general situation :)
<phschafft>
Skipp_OSX: no complains from my side. was just fun to see someone interacting with a topic that recently came up.
<phschafft>
but now, dinner. :)
<nephele_xmpp>
skipp_osx: okay, does that resolve on it’s own or do you need to re-push that patchset?
<Skipp_OSX>
somebody commit something so I can update and know it's on top of master
<Skipp_OSX>
Yeah I need to re-push and it will get fixed up.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 3e2f5108083f - StyledEdit: Add menu to strikeout text
<Skipp_OSX>
oh you merged it ok
<nephele_xmpp>
Maybe I missunderstood you :) Anyhow, it should be on head now for you to re-push the two patchsets
<Skipp_OSX>
yeah I got it
<Skipp_OSX>
So I'm leaving the WIP stuff Indirect ancestor for now, the stack is down to 4 items, and nobody seems to like the top item for F2 Edit name
<nephele_xmpp>
> We match modifiers loosely same as mouse clicks, idk if we want to change this.
<nephele_xmpp>
what do you mean by this?
<nephele_xmpp>
We should match modifiers exactly ideally, for shortcuts
<nephele_xmpp>
anyway, will take a look at that patchset again at home
<Skipp_OSX>
it means that if you've defined a shortcut that requires B_CONTROL_KEY for example and there's no shortcut defined on B_CONTROL_KEY | B_SHIFT_KEY and you have control and shift held down it will activate the shortcut.
<Skipp_OSX>
You're allowed to have extra modifiers held down (minus lock keys which we filter out) that are not require as long as there's not another shortcut using those.
<Skipp_OSX>
For mouse clicks it's a similar story, we activate on any button, not just B_PRIMARY_MOUSE_BUTTON unless you've defined something to use B_SECONDARY_MOUSE_BUTTON or B_TERTIARY_MOUSE_BUTTON. It means right and middle-clicks will also activate things and we don't require you to push B_PRIMARY_MOUSE_BUTTON (aka left-click) most of the time anyway.
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<nephele_xmpp>
skipp_osx: hmm okay. It would be nice to change this, you can’t tell from the code what shortcuts users exppect like this. For example a user might train themselves to use ctrl+ secondary click, while that is nowhere in the code
<Skipp_OSX>
no, this in intentional
<Skipp_OSX>
I mean, we could change it I suppose but there's no good reason to do so.
<nephele_xmpp>
I know that, it’s still not a good design
<nephele_xmpp>
it should be something like B_ANY_MOUSE_BUTTON then
<Skipp_OSX>
we could slowly replace (buttons > 0) with (buttons == B_PRIMARY_MOUSE_BUTTON) if it really bothers you.
<nephele_xmpp>
I think for code comprehension the shortcuts should be visible from the code directly, if the code is expliciit about wanting any mouse button that is fine on it’s own
<nephele_xmpp>
for shortcuts with the keyboard we should be explicit. It’s not nice that ctrl+s and alt+s might win or loose (seemingly at random for the user) when both are defined and ctrl alt is beeing held
<nekobot>
• korli (c9d5723f): haikuporter: bump version
<Skipp_OSX>
The current design follows the Robustness Principle aka Postel's Law "be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others".
<Skipp_OSX>
but I'm not sure that is a good principle, in general.
<nephele_xmpp>
In relatation to programm it sometimess makes it harder to properly speak an api, because mistakes are harder to catch
<nephele_xmpp>
for User interfaces speciificially I think this carries the risk of users learning “wrong” shortcuts, and then beeing suprised when they change later on (while the programmer “only” added a new one, but did not change any old one)
<nephele_xmpp>
My Haiku Poloshirt arrived in time for FOSDEM, yay :D
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<Habbie>
yay!
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