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<scanty> good evening.
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<Begasus> morning peeps
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<erysdren> morning Begasus
<Begasus> Hi there erysdren
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<coolcoder613> Hi erysdren
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<coolcoder613> I got a 486 laptop: https://0x0.st/8HDb.zip
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<akashkumar> hey how can i use tree command in haiku os ? currently it's giving "command not found"
<Begasus> akashkumar, "pkgman install cmd:tree"
<Begasus> aka, you need to install it :)
<Begasus> https://haikuinsider.wordpress.com/2025/01/20/100-days-with-haiku/ for those that haven't read it yet :)
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<janking> Good morning to you all :)
<Begasus> morning janking
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<janking> :)
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<akashkumar7902> hey, I need suggestion regarding a design choice for my pr on https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8567
<akashkumar7902> currenly transportControlGroup::setposition is used to update the positiontooltip, durationtooltip and seekslider, check impl below for reference
<akashkumar7902> void
<akashkumar7902> TransportControlGroup::SetPosition(float value, bigtime_t position,
<akashkumar7902> {
<akashkumar7902> bigtime_t duration)
<akashkumar7902> fPositionToolTip->Update(position, duration);
<akashkumar7902> fDurationView->Update(position, duration);
<akashkumar7902> if (fSeekSlider->IsTracking())
<akashkumar7902> return;
<akashkumar7902> fSeekSlider->SetPosition(value);
<akashkumar7902> }
<akashkumar7902> so, to achieve what is told in the last comment in the ticket page, I need the hover position, which can be determined from mouseMoved virtual func initially defined in Bslider.cpp.
<akashkumar7902> so, now I thinking of removing fpositiontooltip->update(position, duration) from the TransportControlGroup::SetPosition function (check the impl shared by me above), and calling the postiontooltip update function in the overrided "mousemoved" function in seekslider.cp
<akashkumar7902> so, i am in doubt whether seekslider and positiontooltip is allowed to communicate with each other like I mentioned, or the functions defined in these two files must be called from the transportControlGroup.cpp as happening now
<Begasus> can't help you on that, but maybe you could use some paste link instead of flooding the channel akashkumar7902 :)
<Begasus> most of them show code better also then here in IRC
<akashkumar7902> I am sorry for that :|
<Begasus> no problem, just saying :)
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<Anarchos> hellooo
<Yoke> hey ho, how ya'll doing?
<Anarchos> Yoke normal :)
<Anarchos> i have an intel graphics card identified as 0x8086:166 (device vendor/id) . How can i identify which driver deals with it ?
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<nephele_xmpp> would you mind turning off your script? unless you are in a converssation and leave or return and say something it is just noissy
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<Begasus> latest quoterion doesn't play nice with newer libquotient nephele_xmpp
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<Begasus[m]> qauternion* :)
<Anarchos> hello Begasus[m]
<Anarchos> Begasus[m] strange, my intel_extreme driver seems to load correctly, but screen is black
<Begasus[m]> Hi Anarchos , it's a feature! :)
<Anarchos> Begasus[m] ?
<Begasus[m]> your black screen Anarchos , it's not a bug, it's a feature :)
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<Anarchos> Begasus[m] why ?
<Begasus> Anarchos, I was joking, hence the ":)"
<Anarchos> Begasus i guess :)
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<Anarchos> Begasus i saw a new user 'durakovski' (not sure of spelling), who worked recently on intel_extreme driver. Maybe he will have some clues for me !
<Begasus> afaik he's also just starting there
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<Anarchos> Begasus exactly so he will be ultra motivated :)
<Begasus> heh
<Anarchos> Begasus experienced developer tend to come less and less here, be less responsive etc
<Anarchos> Begasus we lost michael philips, axel dorfler, korli, ingo weinhold ....
<Anarchos> Begasus pulko is overbooked with webkit
<Anarchos> you know what i mean (and no critic ffrom me, just a state of things)
<Begasus> k, let's see if 0.0.97-beta1 is on par for libquotient
<Begasus> korli is pretty much active still
<Anarchos> Begasus not on my betex pr :)
<Begasus> michael phips hasn't been around for ages by now :) (but I guess he's around the corner following)
<Begasus> can't help there Anarchos :/
<Anarchos> Begasus you are one of my last good willing ear to me
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> I just have the time (when I'm around) Anarchos, but can only listen and sometimes check :)
<Anarchos> Begasus i know
<Begasus> grabbing quaternion-0.0.97~beta1-1-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Share/haikuports/packages/quaternion-0.0.97~beta1-1-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus> nice ... checking
<Begasus[m]> Up and running :D
<nephele_xmpp> you are grabbing quaternion? how dare you! /s
<Anarchos> nephele_xmpp quaternions have a weird multiplication table :)
<Anarchos> i²=j²=k²= -1
<nephele_xmpp> axeld, korli etc are still around, even if not *that* active
<Anarchos> nephele_xmpp i am so impressed by all the work axel did !
<Begasus> nephele_xmpp, someone has to, there hasn't been any activity for it at haikuports for a long time
<nephele_xmpp> Begasus, I’m only joking. I’m happy that you are giving it a look, assuming you or someone else want to use it
<nephele_xmpp> I have lost interest in matrix as such, only sometimes hanging around the quaternion room
<Begasus> well with the updated libquotient versions it's possible to show image previews, so I guess it could be a thing to update
<Begasus> updates ready for libquotient/neochat/quaternion, just doing some checks on the other laptop for it
* Anarchos can't understand why my 8705 PR broke BootManager :(
<Begasus> pycharm, idea community editions could be updated too (ready for pushing)
<Begasus> ouch Anarchos, is that merged?
<Anarchos> Begasus fortunately not yet
<Begasus> +1 it's good someone catched it before
<Anarchos> Begasus but pulko told me they will give it a sight during coding sprint in the beginning of february
<Begasus> ah at FOSDEM probably :)
<nephele_xmpp> after
<Anarchos> Begasus i am building a version of haiku with debug info in libstdc++ to investigate
<Begasus> yeah, meant that nephele_xmpp
<nephele_xmpp> You better be around too, begasus :)
<Begasus> told you I'd be there nephele_xmpp :)
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<nephele_xmpp> I mean for the sprint
<Begasus> just have to poke the KDE guys to bring cookies :P
<Begasus> I'm no good at the sprint nephele_xmpp
<nephele_xmpp> even if you are not a “coder” as such, it would be good to sit toggether and resolve some haikuporter issues with you
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<Begasus> I'm only a IRC call away :)
<Begasus> don't think I can sell it to the wife that 2 days in the weekend and a week after that I'll be in Brussels :)
<Begasus> on the laptop not booting from USB, I only could think of one thing atm
<Begasus> still got a data partition in BFS, could be formatted as "active" and confuses the bootmanager?
<Begasus> s/could be/could be that it is/
<Anarchos> Begasus the bootmanager must install the haiku bootloader on the usb key
<Anarchos> and flag the partition as active
<Anarchos> and maybe you will have to call 'makebootable' in CLI
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<Begasus> Anarchos, I know how to boot from an USB (isn't the first time) :) on this laptop I just can't get into Haiku
<Begasus> it worked once! :/
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<Anarchos> Begasus the makebootable is sometimes mandatory but i could never understand the underlying explanation
<Begasus> never had to use it Anarchos
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<Begasus> Anarchos, the USB does boot up on other devices, so that can't be the issue also
<Anarchos> Begasus ah ok
<Anarchos> Begasus and it is configured as first boot device in bios ? bios is configured in legacy mode and not uefi ?
<Begasus> yep :)
<Begasus> it boots up but then it can't seem to find a boot volume (not even from the USB it's booting from)
<Begasus> biab
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<Anarchos> Begasus maybe it boots on an internal HDD ?
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<Begasus> Anarchos, no go there, it had a install that booted until ...
<Begasus> beleive me, think I tried every possible way to get it back on bare metal
<Anarchos> Begasus maybe try to install a previous hrev ?
<Anarchos> or test the key ? Maybe it has some bad sectors
<Begasus> partition has been deleted (with the install), and no boot from USB, so nothing I can do anymore
<Begasus> this internal HD* isn't the regular one you can replace with some other HD from another laptop also :)
<Anarchos> Begasus try disable the hdd in bios ?
<Begasus> it still holds Windows 11 on it, don't want to mess too much on that part
<Anarchos> Begasus i understand
<Begasus> most of the stuff on the install partition has been backed up, parts of the haikuports tree on the data partition also
<Begasus> last thing I could do I guess is delete the partition so the USB won't "see" any other BFS partition
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<Begasus[m]> nephele_xmpp commented on the quaternion issue at haikuports: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/9024
<Begasus[m]> out for a bit :)
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<nexus6> hey there! I have compiled the Tracker in debug mode but once the Debugger is attached to it, it does not seen a few files. Specifically PoseView.cpp which is obviously the one I need to debug :D Does anybody know why?
<augiedoggie> most of the Tracker code is in libtracker, did you enable debug for that too?
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<nexus6> yes
<nexus6> the Debugger shows the majority of them it seems
* Anarchos could'nt find the issue of a segfault when calling a virtual funtion. No clue how to investigate in Debugger.
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<Anarchos> nexus6 did you "touch PoseView.cpp" to be sure it recompiled in debug mode ?
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<akashkumar7902> i find instances of the strace thing in the haiku codebase, how to see this printed while running the application like mediaplayerSTRACE(("\tHOOK: BView(%s)::MouseUp()\n", Name()));
<Anarchos> akashkumar7902 i can try to help you, but can you provide a reference to such a line in the code ?
<akashkumar7902> Anarchos you can find that exact line on the link I provided
<Anarchos> akashkumar7902 in this case STRACE is just a macro, not to be confused with the "strace" command tool.
<akashkumar7902> the line is already uncommented,
<Anarchos> akashkumar7902 thus, as it defines STRACE as printf, you must launch the binary from Terminal to see its output. (or with Debugger).
<akashkumar7902> oh sorry I misread it, I thought u were referring to the same line
<Anarchos> akashkumar7902 no, i reffered to l. 69
<akashkumar7902> yep, recompiling now
<Anarchos> akashkumar7902 good luck :)
<akashkumar7902> it got printed, but now everything else is also shown, how to limit it to just few strace functions
<akashkumar7902> Anarchos right now it is like finding a needle in the heap, it is too overwhelming as the terminal is moving so fast
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<Anarchos> akashkumar7902 you remove from the source code all the STRACE lines which are not useful to you
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<nephele_xmpp> alternatively, grep
<nephele_xmpp> i.e “Mycommand | grep “thingIwant”
<nephele_xmpp> (or with ripgrep, it’s commandline syntax is a bit nicer)
* nephele_xmpp Really wants display rotation on Haiku
<nephele_xmpp> nipos: around?
<nipos> Yes
<nephele_xmpp> grok.niksoft.one was yours right?
<nipos> Yes
<nephele_xmpp> Do you have some ideas/advice on how to change the syntax highlighting colors? are those hardcoded? The blue for function names and black for lines % 10 have too little contrast to properly read, the purple is also not that good
<nipos> It should be possible to modify them, as I the web files aren't compiled into the Java application, but always read from the file system (if I remember right)
<nipos> I already hacked an quick&dirty dark theme into it, maybe that needs some more work
<nephele_xmpp> style-1.0.4-min.css then? If you want I can try and improve some colors and send you a patch
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<nipos> Wait, I need to look at the computer
<nephele_xmpp> all identifiers beeing yellow looks a bit silly :)
<nephele_xmpp> ah, that is already in the dark mode block though. hmm
<nephele_xmpp> would be neat if for prefers contrast more in dark mode I’d have a black bg. Though i gues as long as i am stuck with safari i can overwrite locally
<nipos> Ok yes, it's the style-1.0.4.min.css file. Feel free to improve it
<nipos> I literally copy&pasted something I found online and invested like 10 minutes to fix the most awful bugs and that's it.
<nephele_xmpp> I have a 4k 240hz oled display, rotated sideways, to currently read some sourcecode on your site xD
<nephele_xmpp> Ah okay. So this is a “dark-only” opengrok theme in a prefers-color-scheme var, makes sense
<nephele_xmpp> Hmm…. Making a haiku branded theme would be cool. Not sure how much of this css is actually needed
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<nipos> I have a cheep standard LCD which is enough. Sometimes I think having a E Ink monitor would be cool, but they're insanely expensive
<nephele_xmpp> I use OLED for the contrast, and because a truely black background really helps with my light sensitivity sometimes
<nipos> Yep, a Haiku-branded theme of course would be cool. I decided not to waste to much time here because it's only a developer tool, not something an end user will ever see
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<nipos> For me extreme contrast (dark black on bright white) is worse than light gray on a dark gray background. The former produces some burn-in effect on my eyes
<nipos> *bright whie on dark black background, I meant
<nephele_xmpp> yes, bright white on black is too much. But that isn’t what I use either, and I’m not really a fan of that argument. The foreground colors have to be less bright then, anyhow.
<bbjimmy> anubody else see this? pkgman haikuloader Checksum error
<nephele_xmpp> yes, someone on the forum mentioned it
<nephele_xmpp> nipos: are you at fosdem?
<nipos> No,I'm at work on 1. February and it would have been too far away anyways
<bbjimmy> nephele_xmpp different file, similar error
<nipos> I hope I'll read a lot about Fosdem here or on the forum.I find it really interesting.Will you be there?
<nephele_xmpp> I’m at the haiku stand
<nipos> Cool :D
<nipos> https://maps.metager.de/de/route/car/R402687;N1635651356/[[3.422416961290323,49.10640034367725],[10.700141038709678,51.38147954500403]]
<nipos> Just had a look again,well,516km for two days is definitely too much
<nephele_xmpp> I’m wondering if there will be coffee
<nephele_xmpp> for me “only” 350km, and getting up at 3
<nephele_xmpp> and taking the train+
<nipos> I'll have late shift next week (10:30 - 18:00),then saturday 8:00 - 13:00 and then it doesn't make a lot of sense to drive to Brussels.The first day will be over when I arrive
<nephele_xmpp> we have a haiku coding sprint the week after
<nipos> I have vacation the week after,funnily
<waddlesplash> nipos: 320 miles? psh, that's what, a ~5 hour drive. I've been on weekend trips that far away, or more :P
<nipos> I may do some Haiku things from home
<nephele_xmpp> miles O’brian?
<nipos> For me that's the average distance of my yearly vacation (1 week/year,usually)
<nephele_xmpp> nipos: I’m sure our airBnB has room if you’d still like to attend ;)
<nephele_xmpp> we can probably make something happen with Jitsi or something though for remote attendance
<nephele_xmpp> get waddlesplash as a tv speaker
<waddlesplash> LOL
<nipos> I'm sure I'd find more than enough time to join over Jitsi,good idea :)
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<nephele_xmpp> guess I can ask phschafft if he is up to hosting a jitsi for that
<phschafft> when? I'm just on my way out the door?
<nephele_xmpp> the week at/after fosdem, for the coding sprint
<phschafft> ah, sure. no problem. just ping me. :)
<nipos> Jitsi is something I never got to work on my server lol
<nephele_xmpp> Neat
* nephele_xmpp goes afk
<nipos> I tried very hard years ago,it just didn't connect somehow.But if you have a server that works,it's a great thing
<phschafft> nipos: then I'm extra happy if I can help as a host. :)
<phschafft> so, but now, need to leave, will be back in the afternoon.
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<Anarchos> akashkumar7902 did it work ?
<akashkumar7902> yes
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<Skipp_OSX> https://64.media.tumblr.com/5d876454a23f7982ab150b866d8ece0e/9d8c6fa8c32b09db-8e/s1280x1920/254fbf98343f633d62cead88bf0bc8f19fdbd512.png <= Appearance and Terminal after my PS moving BColorPreview, the BColorListView and BColorItem to shared and updating the height.
<Skipp_OSX> ... height of the Terminal Colors settings window that is.
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<Skipp_OSX> I got my color pickers code working 90% last night fixing most of the drag and drop issues I was having. Bidirectional color drop support was a pain to get right.
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<zdykstra> very cool!
<Skipp_OSX> A small change I made in PS4 was to make the BColorPreview square again. It was always my intention for it to be rectangular using golden ratio but the person who implemented in Terminal made is square. I have relented and made is square again in shared.
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<Skipp_OSX> Well you've managed to scare DigitalBox98 from contributing, congratulations on that I guess...
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<zdykstra> what's the context on that? I can only assume that wasn't addressed to me.
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<Skipp_OSX> no, not to you, to the notification I received that the following change has been abandoned: https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/8844
<Skipp_OSX> nep and max
<nephele_xmpp> “ I will close this change and do some proposal for missing part of the HaikuBook on another change (like the DeviceKit)” How is that scared away from contributing? .-.
<Skipp_OSX> We'll see if he follows through on that or not.
<nephele_xmpp> No need to view everything so negative
<Skipp_OSX> exactly my point
<nipos> It's really difficult to get stuff done here sometimes
<Skipp_OSX> I welcomed the change, I thought he did a good job of explaining himself why he wanted it. Now I'm sad to see he's relented and abandoned it. I hope this experience does not sour him from contributing more.
<nipos> I mean,I totally understand that the code needs to have some quality to make sure stuff doesn't break,but if you copy&paste stuff from other places in the Haiku source and get negative feedback for stuff that is already in the Haiku source in exactly that way,well,that feels like you not only want me to get my job right,but also clean up after others.
<nipos> I hope changing the next variable name will finally make everyone happy 🙄
<Skipp_OSX> correct, I complained about the style mistakes, twice, perhaps more than I should have and forced him to fix them.
<Skipp_OSX> but that's style, not substance.
<Skipp_OSX> I supported the substance of what he was trying to do, but others did not.
<waddlesplash> nipos: variable names make a big difference when reading code
<waddlesplash> being able to reason about code merely from reading it is very important
<Skipp_OSX> Yeah, I agree, ps is a bad name, I assume it means pathStorage
<Skipp_OSX> That is a valid complaint, don't use bad variable names. There is a gray area there but generally we discourage 1-2 letter variable names except i, j, k for iterators or x, y, z for coordinates.
<nipos> I'd agree if that was my code,but just look a few lines up
<waddlesplash> we might as well fix both I guess
<Skipp_OSX> yeah we want you to clean up for others too sorry
<nipos> I only repeated exactly what was done to implement underlines.Back then it was okay,today it isn't and that's frustrating
<waddlesplash> it wasn't good then, but I didn't review that :)
<Skipp_OSX> I get it, you're working on code that got grandfathered in, but the grandfather exception is over for you.
<Skipp_OSX> And I can see how that is frustrating, good for the goose...
<nephele_xmpp> Yes, I can understand that nipos. Some of this code is quite old unfortunately. But keeping the code style is important, for my part I’ve put cleaning up those variables on my todo for that file. I don’t expect variables that are already declared to be changed in this case, but for new code it should defeinetely be done
<Begasus> closing down here
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<nipos> If I also fix it for the underlining,so that it's at least always the same variables,I'll probably get backslash for doing two things within one commit,right?
<Skipp_OSX> nah
<nephele_xmpp> Personally I’d prefer no-op cleanup commits to be seperate to functional changes. But that is my preference, not a hard rule
<Skipp_OSX> you'll get backlash for doing style changes and functional changes in the same commit :)
<nephele_xmpp> I’d definetely disagree if you clean up the whole file and add new code though, that makes it a mess to review
<Skipp_OSX> That's a joke (I hope) I'd update the bar variable names in both places.
<Skipp_OSX> *bad
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev58547] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4ae0548774d3+%5Ea6fee6a1ca9a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 012d90c5538e - BColorControl: SetValue and Invoke on color drop if enabled
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 622853ff8eea - Appearance and Terminal: Move ColorPreview to shared
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4ae0548774d3 - Terminal: Make Colors window height shorter and font-dependent
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<HaikuUser> hi, I have some problem with Tracker, from what I read Column jumping was possible with TAB
<HaikuUser> It's even in the User Guide to push TAB to cycle Attributes. Now, it's going up and down on the list. And yes I have tried enabling type-ahead filterning, that just disables TAB completely and there is no action.
<HaikuUser> I know this is not code review & maybe later I will post it there, but 2 more points:
<HaikuUser> All operating systems show the number of selected items. Haiku could also show selected x of all items. Now it's showing the count of all items regardless if there is any selection or not.
<HaikuUser> I would like to follow Windows/Linux philosophy here when multiple items are selected and Get info. Instead now multiple windows are opening just like on Mac OS, when it could be a nice summary window with total size.
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<Skipp_OSX> I do not understand what you mean except I understand "Haiku could also show selected x of all items". That make sense. Are you on R1B5 or nightly? I ask because there have been a few updates to type-ahead filtering on nightly.
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<HaikuUser> You dont understand? So generally 3 issues.
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<HaikuUser> Yes, I'm on one of the latest nightlies.
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<HaikuUser> 1. I first noticed that when I was reading the Guide last year: https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/attributes.html
<HaikuUser> It says: "move between the attributes with TAB and" so tab should move me left/right for up/down I have keys.
<HaikuUser> 3. I would like Get Info to be more like Properties so I can see total size of selected files. Or maybe there is a modifier key I'm missing - I tried all usual keys when clicking Get Info but no.
<HaikuUser> You understand 2, thanks.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8ff91e4a4463 - kernel/vm: Always insert new clean pages into the topmost cache on fault.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ece9fcbaa8c6 - kernel/vm: Assert in VMCache::InsertPage() that the offset is within the cache.
<Skipp_OSX> hmmmmm yeah I see now but I do not know about that. It looks like it has something to do with Edit name and then you push tab to edit the next one
<Skipp_OSX> You'd have to have multiple editable columns like in the people example for this to work.
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<HaikuUser> I tested that again, using the People app I created two instances. I'm showing the Company attribute in Tracker by right clicking on the column header and selecting it. Editable? yes but still can't jump, even if I reorder the columns.
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<Skipp_OSX> hmmm maybe something got broken with that then
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<Skipp_OSX> You have to edit the first column by clicking on it or pushing Alt+E or F2, then push tab to edit the next column.
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<HaikuUser> It works for you? I tried on 3 versions at least and TAB works the same as Down Arrow.
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<Skipp_OSX> yeah it works for me
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<Skipp_OSX> It works for me in the people folder like the example, you can use tab to edit next column, esc to cancel or enter to apply
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<HaikuUser> This never worked for me on Nightlies I was using. It's not something I can't live withouth.
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<Skipp_OSX> Are you in edit name mode? You have to be in edit more for tab to work.
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<Skipp_OSX> like file name edit, only it's not filename in this case but Company or whatever attribute.
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<HaikuUser> OK I did not see that and there in the Guide. Thank you for explaining.
<Skipp_OSX> Yes it confused me at first as well, could be better written.
<HaikuUser> I was thinking first TAB then ALT + E.
<Skipp_OSX> WRONG
<Skipp_OSX> hehe
<Skipp_OSX> Alt+E then Tab yes
<HaikuUser> Is there an easy way to add a column there for arbitratry folder?
<Skipp_OSX> probably but idk how
<HaikuUser> Now I'm using the people folder, I noticed it's special I can right-click the column header and choose some additional columns. And then I copy & paste the layout to new folder.
<HaikuUser> I know I have to define in FileTypes but couldn't it be more simple.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 414774d79f46 - kernel/vm: Rename VMCache::HasPage to StoreHasPage.
<Skipp_OSX> correct
<Skipp_OSX> how to make that available elsewhere though, I do not know.
<BrunoSpr> Hello all, EDIT: Where to report bug report for ScummVM again?
<Skipp_OSX> Showing selection count in Tracker would be a good addition. A multi-file Get info window would be ok although see my username. Calculating folder file sizes would be a nice addition too if we could work out the threading issues.
<BrunoSpr> Oh, I found it thanks
<HaikuUser> I was thinking morelike: your 2nd and 3rd sentences together, not as individual because calculating folder sizes in List view by default could be nice but also could read the disc too much.
<Skipp_OSX> correct
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<Skipp_OSX> there's a ticket for it somewhere, but we haven't done the work since it would involve calculating file sizes recursively.
<HaikuUser> Maybe with Alt pushed the Get Info could transorm into Get summary info when multiple items are selected.
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<Skipp_OSX> Alt+Shift+I for Get more info
<Skipp_OSX> something like that
<HaikuUser> And only there on Summary Info window the total size would be calculated.
<Skipp_OSX> well if we can work out the threading, yeah.
<Skipp_OSX> We don't want to lock up the thread calculating file sizes, and especially with I/O this can block.
<Skipp_OSX> meaning on a slow disk the problem would be even worse.
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<BrunoSpr> Is ScummVM on HaikuPorts or on HaikuArchive?
<BrunoSpr> good night all
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<Anarchos> any C++ dev here ?
* phschafft takes a good step back. ;)
<Anarchos> phschafft how do you debug a segfault just at a virtual method call ? Debugger is not very "helpy" in my case
<phschafft> I'm a C guy.
<phschafft> but generally a backtrace is often most helpful.
<phschafft> also I enjoy valgrind as it tells what kind of illegal access it was.
<Anarchos> phschafft i suspect Debugger doesn't show accurate classes of my objects
<phschafft> do you have filenames and line numbers?
<phschafft> figuring out C++ symbols is very complex and C++ was much criticised for that in the past.
<phschafft> but maybe the line numbers are correct.
<Anarchos> phschafft i will try to do a screenshot
<phschafft> again, I'm not a C++ guy. so just guessing here.
<phschafft> but go ahead. maybe someone else in here might know a little more. :)
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<Anarchos> phschafft anyway, my gateway hdd lost live ... so i can't really do all the update and stufff
<Anarchos> phschafft maybe another day
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<phschafft> I'm really sorry about it. :(
<Anarchos> phschafft it seems to work, but the ubuntu needed some updates...
<Anarchos> phschafft maybe tomorrow
<Anarchos> good night
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<x512[m]> Anarchos: gdb --args <your program>
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