<rennj>
SPARK is a formally defined computer programming language based on the Ada programming language, intended for the development of high integrity software used in systems where predictable and highly reliable operation is essential. It facilitates the development of applications that demand safety, security, or business integrity.
<rennj>
2 naked gun movies up on youtube, free with ads but both fail with "sorry there was an error licensing this video". Lt. Frank Drebin help!
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<rennj>
“Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to stay on my toes.”
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<countryboy>
msg nick identify windowsburn
<countryboy>
xD a joke ...
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<AlwaysLivid>
I literally just joined IRC because I thought you did it again :P
<countryboy>
no, a joke ...
<AlwaysLivid>
Yup, got it
<countryboy>
xD
<countryboy>
windows burns ...
<countryboy>
no, burn
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<countryboy>
windows => plural
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<countryboy>
wind of change =
<countryboy>
wind of change => windows change
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<mrentropy64>
Hello, peoples.
<AlwaysLivid>
hi mrentropy64
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<mrentropy64>
I decided trying to build MAME on the R1606G wasn't the best idea.
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<mrentropy64>
Now I gotta figure out why Stella won't build.
<AlwaysLivid>
"stella was a diver and she was always down"
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<nephele[x]>
Humdinger: for the MediaPlayer patch, wouldn't a simpler solution be to only present the menu item for eject when the played item is from a CD? I assumed this is how it was supposed to work initially... but it seems it just tries to pick some CD drive to eject (I could connect severall :D)
<Anarchos>
there is no icon for zsxd :?
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<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JBFiE
<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] korli a57a5ba - texinfo: texindex depends on awk
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<nephele[x]>
Huh, there is a cgi script inside of mandoc, which we don't enable, but we probably could and use that for html display of manpages
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<bbjimmy>
Haiku boots and can launch WebPositive in the time it takes chromium to launch opn Mint.
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<bbjimmy>
Too bad WebPositive quits or chashes so much, I wouldn't have to launch Chromium.
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<mrentropy64>
It quits for you, too?
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<bbjimmy>
I think we should have merged the haikuwebkit and fixed the breakage in WebPositive before we started the beta 3 release process.
<bbjimmy>
just my 2 cents
<nephele[x]>
why didn't you submit patches then?
* nephele[x]
shrugs
<nephele[x]>
On a more technical level: It wasn't really possible to build haikuwebkit with a recent version before branching beta3, for more general testing
<bbjimmy>
why didn't you submit patches then? way to go! This is the way to insult non programmers.
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<nephele[x]>
how is that any different to saying "we should have fixed"?
<bbjimmy>
\then we should have branched and tested before we released.
<nephele[x]>
We did test, and haikuwebkit now works better than before, i honestly don't see the problem
<bbjimmy>
one is a process issue, the other is an ability issue.
<nephele[x]>
And i don't recall seeing any bug reports for these sites /inside the release testing window we actually had/, so it seems incredibly silly to me to complain now that there should have been more testing, I can't test everything, and unsuprisingly stuff that doesn't fall inside my usecase is easily missed, same with the other devs that work on haikuwebkit
<nephele[x]>
if there is no bug reports there is nothing to be done
<bbjimmy>
took so long to respond because WebPositive crashed again.
<nephele[x]>
that ticket is the nightly branch /after/ beta3
<bbjimmy>
in this case, it just locked up and did not respond, had do kill it,
<bbjimmy>
because I couldn't get beta 3 for testing. the links never worked.
<nephele[x]>
In any case, I can understand your frustration, but we are in a good place now, haikuwebkit can be updated independently of the system again, and it will be when issues are discovered and fixed
<bbjimmy>
Rather ironic that the website that panned the Haiku beta 2 release does not work in the Beta 3 release.
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<PulkoMandy>
there are always some websites more complicated to get to work than other
<PulkoMandy>
the release process for webkit in beta3 was quite complicated
<PulkoMandy>
because it needed some new APIs and we could basically have no testing releases for a year
<PulkoMandy>
now that beta3 is out, it unlokcs that situation and I will be fixing and releasing webkit updates more often
<PulkoMandy>
basically, not having a beta3 release was blocking all further work on webkit from being used
<PulkoMandy>
and so, bugs accumulate
<PulkoMandy>
that's why we have beta releases. With this out of the way I can resume more serious work on webkit
<Coldfirex>
17065 was before beta 3 was released
<PulkoMandy>
and have people test the changes as I go, and I really have to rely on that because it's unreasonable for me to test all websites
<nephele[x]>
Coldfirex: no, the hrev mentioned is on nightly branch after beta3
<PulkoMandy>
nephele[x], it was definitely a known issue before beta3
<PulkoMandy>
no matter the hrev, it was broken and that was a known issue
<Coldfirex>
PulkoMandy is correct
<PulkoMandy>
but... it was also already broken in beta2. If we had fixed everything since beta2, this would not be beta3, it would be R1
<PulkoMandy>
some of these issues are easily fixed, some are more complicated
<Coldfirex>
looks at disappearing text..
<PulkoMandy>
give us some time to get to each of them and investigate and fix
<Coldfirex>
I appreciate all your work PulkoMandy
<nephele[x]>
I didn't know about ars crashing up until one week or so before we actually released beta3, but it's still reported against the nightly branch, which i ignored a bit since well, we were trying to get the beta out :P
<nephele[x]>
And indeed, the disapearing text stuff was seen as a way more pressing issue...
<nephele[x]>
(I did test it however, and at the time got no crashes :)
<nephele[x]>
Is there something specific to do to get it to crash on arstechnica?
<nephele[x]>
I can get some freezes, but no crashes
<Coldfirex>
its random. It didnt crash for me at first either. Eventually I was able to get it to crash just by visiting and letting it sit there
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<nephele[x]>
I can't get it to crash, if you have a specific article that triggers it would be nice to attach the URI
<mrentropy64>
When the page finishes loading it crashes.
<mrentropy64>
It's pretty consistent for me.
<Coldfirex>
front page
<Coldfirex>
just let it sit
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<nephele[x]>
If this is some ressource exhaustion bug i'd probably be waiting a long time :)
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<nephele[x]>
Perhaps the advertisements are crashing your instance?
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<mrentropy64>
Ads would be my guess.
<mrentropy64>
Weirdly, on the R1606G system, the page loads quickly and as soon as the blue bar is removed, it crashes. On the Ryzen 5 system, i takes a long time for that blue bar to be removed, and so far it just quits when that happens, not crash.
<nephele[x]>
I use an adblocking list, so ads could be the problem indeed
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<Coldfirex>
i use pihole and still can get the crash. that page doesnt normally show an ad for me
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<PulkoMandy>
I saw several reports on different websites that were all in the HTTP code in media kit, so my guess would be video replays
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