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<rennj> why naked gun wasnt playing is my old ass firefox/chrome hah, forced upgrade.
<rennj> 2019 version of both the browsers is dead.
<rennj> least on youtube/movies
<jessicah> need that widevine drm goodness :p
<rennj> yeah see it got hacked other day on hackernews
<rennj> i hate updating the vm.iso. it just a small os i have for browsing and irc and torrents and such
<rennj> 2019 browsers stopped working with licensing issue on youtube "naked gun" movies
<jessicah> I don't see it free on youtube
<rennj> naked gun 2.5 and first one are free with ads for me
<jessicah> just has a rent button here
<rennj> yeah u.s.a. probably not nz
<jessicah> prolly
<jessicah> stupid geolocation
<rennj> tor should work i bet
<rennj> with u.s.a. exit node
<jessicah> prolly
<rennj> 2 browsers, 1 proxies thru tor, 1 is just plain chrome, and then i have another user for running normal firefox no tor proxy
<rennj> my default browser is firefox socks5 tor
<jt15s[m]> Would it be feasible to get DRM support for Web+ and how would we do that?
<jessicah> I don't think even Chromium has
<rennj> yeah chromium pops up drm license issue
<rennj> probably need extension or something
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<rennj> tubitv, crackle, hulu...you missing out
<rennj> 123Movies https://ww5.0123movie.net/
<rennj> picture in picture firefox pops up now, get external window of movie, and the browser is then free for doing other stuff
<rennj> tubitv some of movies work with youtube-dl, no commercial is nice
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<mrentropy64> Hello, folks.
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<countryboy> hi AlwaysLivid[m] : keep cool !!! ;-)
<AlwaysLivid[m]> thanks
<AlwaysLivid[m]> u too!
<countryboy> wellcome !
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<mrentropy64> Does Haiku have a 'keychain' type thing, where it keeps credentials for HaikuDepot, websites, etc?
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<jadedctrl> mrentropy64: there is the keystore server, but I don't think it's used with webpositive yet
<mrentropy64> jadedctrl: Is there a way to view it?
<mrentropy64> I'm asking because I have two identical FuseSMB setups, and one has write permission and the other doesn't. I'm wondering if those credentials are stored in there.
<jadedctrl> mrentropy64: you can check ~/config/settings/system/keystore/keystore_database with Kottan or a hexdump program
<mrentropy64> Cool. I'll have a peek. Thanks!
<jadedctrl> mrentropy64: better yet, just found the `keystore` command
<jadedctrl> might be a bit easier :p
<mrentropy64> Oh yeah, that's way easier.
<nephele[x]> jt15s: i doubt it, and the question would also be why we would want to implement such nonsense
<countryboy> nephele[x]: wrong nick ...
<nephele[x]> no?
<countryboy> jt15s[m] or jadedctrl ?
<nephele[x]> It would suprise me greatly if those two were the same person
<countryboy> boh, np
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<mrentropy64> Well... credentials are good. This is gonna be a toughie.
<nephele[x]> fyi, wifi passwords are stored in the keychain too :)
<mrentropy64> What does it mean when Web+ says Error loading (page) Interrupted system call?
<nephele[x]> It means that it got interupted system call as an error :/
<countryboy> mrentropy64: it means you have to pray ... xD
<mrentropy64> I can't get to my NAS configuration page. I guess I'll have to USB files back and forth, which seems ridiculous.
<nephele[x]> I have to make a new CA to make a new cert for my mail server, hmm... wondering if i can just do that on haiku
<nephele[x]> though maybe our rng isn't the best, dunno if that matters
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<mrentropy64> Cat jumped on the VCS and Haiku crashed with a divide by zero message.
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<humdinger> stupid github seems to have changed something on their website again...
<humdinger> doesn't work as well with web+ as a few days ago.
<humdinger> :(
<rennj> m$ asset, dont use it.
<rennj> hmm copilit SAS hoovering up all that free code, who cares about copyright/licenses
<humdinger> github has kept changing their web tech since way before MS aquired them.
<rennj> sure, but once m$ bought them, people should have bailed
<rennj> bandwagon effect be damned
<jadedctrl> I really don't think ml-based services should be considered SASS
<jadedctrl> trained models can be pretty big, you can't expect most people to keep that around on their harddrive
<jadedctrl> though I guess the option should be available
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<humdinger> jadedctrl: how do you feel about an updated Calendar 'release'?
<humdinger> jadedctrl: is current master in a usable state?
<humdinger> (or at least as usable as the one currently in HaikuDepot)
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<humdinger> ahoi KapiX
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<KapiX> hi :)
<lorglas> hi
<humdinger> hullo
<bbjimmy> hi lorglas
<jadedctrl> humdinger: yea, I think so
<jadedctrl> been using it for a few months without anything crazy
<humdinger> jadedctrl: OK. just point the recipe to HEAD or shall we do an 'official' v0.1
<humdinger> there hasn't een a real release yet.
<humdinger> or v1.0?
<jadedctrl> v0.1 feels safer haha
<humdinger> right. :) 0.1 it is then.
<jadedctrl> hurrah :)
<humdinger> I'm updating a few packages, so it may take a bit.
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<humdinger> bye for now...
* humdinger waves
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 19 commits to master [+17/-26/±2] https://git.io/JBj27
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb f931896 - Updating BePDF to v2.1.4
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb d761957 - Update 2048 to 1.1.1
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb e69b43e - Update Randomizer to 1.2.2
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] ... and 16 more commits.
<humdinger> done for the day. see what broke tomorrow... :P
* humdinger waves
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<countryboy> hello shaka444[m]
<countryboy> dinner time ...
<countryboy> cu
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<countryboy> hello, here i am ...
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<Anarchos> hello
<countryboy> hello
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<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/JBjPT
<Not-5835> [haikuports/haikuports] kallisti5 a97e9d4 - bind_utils: Add initial port work. Not 100% yet
<countryboy> pc = electronic calculator => a calculator ...
<nephele[x]> Except that I don't have to sit next to the window to use my pc
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<mrentropy64> I'm the operator with my pocket calculator.
<Anarchos> countryboy and ?
<nephele[x]> It rhymes
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<countryboy> and the calculator doesn't hurt
<countryboy> it does mathematical calculations
<countryboy> + - * /
<countryboy> we went back to kindergarten
<nephele[x]> In my job you would be pretty lost if your calculator can only do + - * and /
<countryboy> ok, some mathematical calculations ...
<nephele[x]> Seems there is a new review 4 hours ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDi2ZU90_j0
<countryboy> power pc = a fast cpu ...
<nephele[x]> You can buy power9 computers if you want, they are just really expensive :/
<countryboy> xD
<countryboy> cpu = the part of the calculator that computes mathematical operations
<countryboy> cpu = central processing unit ;-)
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<mrentropy64> FuseSMB could use a bit of tweaking.
<countryboy> mrentropy64: you could use ftp ...
<countryboy> user = user
<mrentropy64> Smeg. I completely forgot about FTP.
<mrentropy64> Gotta see if my NAS is set up for it.
<countryboy> password = set it with passwd in consolle
<countryboy> + static ip
<Anarchos> countryboy could stop telling so silly things please ?
<countryboy> ok
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<mrentropy64> FTP isn't particularly speedy, but it's better than SMB (so far). Thanks for the reminder.
<countryboy> you are wellcome !
<countryboy> np
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<countryboy> Anarchos: tell me ... ;-)
<countryboy> I do this to put it right ... :-)
<mrentropy64> Now I need a good FTP client.
<countryboy> ftpzilla
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<mrentropy64> For Haiku.
<countryboy> ops, i apologize ...
<nephele[x]> added the review to the inThePress page, good night!
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<countryboy> mrentropy64: ftpzilla is opensource ...
<mrentropy64> Do you mean Filezilla?
<countryboy> ops, i apologize, yes, filezilla
<mrentropy64> That's great, but it doesn't help me right now.
<countryboy> ok
<mrentropy64> I'll keep trying FTPPositive
<countryboy> fine
<countryboy> FTPPositive under haiku side .... filezilla under linux side ...
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<countryboy> cu
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<mrentropy64> Another divide by zero KDL. Or whatever that's called. And this time the cat wasn't even involved.
<_Dario_> mrentropy64, still looking for FTP clients for Haiku?
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<mrentropy64> _Dario_: I'm sticking with FTP Positive for now.
<_Dario_> ok! There is also some others too. Krusader, for example. And Midnight Commander also supports FTP, I guess
<_Dario_> just in case that you need some alternative.
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<mrentropy64> I tried them all. I couldn't get FTP to work with either of them for various reasons.
<mrentropy64> lftp said FTP wasn't supported...
<mrentropy64> It's no biggie, though. FTP+ is a bit slow, but it's working.
<mrentropy64> It does make me think about the search in HaikuDepot, though.
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<mrentropy64> Haiku, VCS, and MAME. I could almost cry.
<rennj> mame nes metroidu!
<rennj> mame -joystick forgot the most important option
<rennj> https://imgur.com/HuMUh6e i-robot!
<jessicah> heh
<rennj> single player is only way i use that winblows10 vm, never put it on the net, old build from 2018 or so
<rennj> tons of console games https://pasteboard.co/JkIQb7D.png snes.gensis.turbo graphiX
<rennj> neogeo,capcom
<mrentropy64> I had the Atari Modern Controller plugged in Atari mode, and ran MAME and it crashed the OS with a divide by 0 error. I'll have to try it again with the controller in X Box mode.
<jessicah> it's interesting how all these old games are still so popular with people
<jessicah> on haiku?
<mrentropy64> I grew up with them, so that's my interest.
<jessicah> whereabouts was the divide by zero?
<rennj> arcades i miss
<mrentropy64> jessicah: Yeah, Haiku. That KDL thing came down and said it was divide by zero in the gamepad something or other.
<rennj> 25cent tokens
<jessicah> oh it was in the driver?
<mrentropy64> I guess. I'm sure I can make it happen again, but I'm busy slowly FTPing stuff and don't want to interrupt it.
<jessicah> well should be sure :) is there a ticket? :p
<mrentropy64> Which is weird, because RetroArch didn't have a problem with it in Atari mode and didn't work at all with it in XBox mode.
<mrentropy64> No, no ticket yet. Next time it happens I'll take a photo of the screen and write it up.
<x512[m]> mrentropy64: Probably yet another USB division by zero problem.
<rennj> oof retroarch the new fangled bloated gaming system
<rennj> mame command line
<rennj> fs-uae is bloated pig compared to uae,e-uae
<mrentropy64> x512[m]: Probably. My cat jumped on the VCS this morning and caused a divide by 0 with the keyboard.
<rennj> RetroArch is a frontend for emulators, game engines and media players.
<rennj> yeah frontends
<mrentropy64> I gotta make dinner and feed the birds.
<rennj> i-robot i use to play in arcades
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<rennj> was ahead of its time
<mrentropy64> I, Robot was great. Only ever saw it in one arcade.
<mrentropy64> The only thing I'm missing is sound.
<rennj> heh, sound is kind of importan
<rennj> only thing i missing is video output...hehe
<rennj> video,sound,joystick bare min
<rennj> RetroPie uses EmulationStation as frontend on top of RetroArch and other emulators, while the graphical interface of Lakka is directly coded in RetroArch
<rennj> hmm lakka is what? frontend on pie devices?
<rennj> Lakka (LibreELEC-based RetroArch operating system),
<rennj> i need another computer
<mrentropy64> I'm not a big fan of RetroArch, which is why I did the Hatari, Stella, and Atari800 emulators seperately. But, it still has others that I can't just compile easily.
<mrentropy64> Back in ye olden days, I wrote a front end for MAME (before they grafted their own on) on BeOS.
<rennj> yeah i just command lines dos prompt mame.exe right now..i didnt even look for a frontend
<rennj> dump roms in rom folder, and mame -joystick gamename seems to work
<rennj> gamename is specific bullshit it seems
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<AlienSoldier> en.savefrom.net now crash webpositive
<rennj> my haiku vm is a pig period. webpostive is unusable, compared to this vm firefox/chrome
<rennj> maybe it runs way better on baremetal, but i doubt that. since my win10 gaming vm is plenty fine for games
<rennj> 2cpu,4GB of ram, same i give most vm's ide harddrive and e1000 nic, hdaudio
<AlienSoldier> run fast enough for me, just crashy and hangy on some sited
<rennj> same .vmx file for linux vm, win10 vm, haiku vm basically
<AlienSoldier> on bare metal i mean
<rennj> benchmark my beos vm vs haiku vm, both 32bit...i should do..see whats what.
<rennj> cpu,disk,net
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<Vidrep_64> Those issues with Web+ just started happening a few days ago
<Vidrep_64> I was running a build from master that was working fine, then all of a sudden it starts crashing
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<Vidrep_64> Is there any possibility this is the culprit? https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=a94ee3f35a29042e0cfbc31dcf9f6a39ceda2845
<AlienSoldier> must be something not used on all sites because most work fine
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<AlienSoldier> Vidrep_64 here my crash seem to be related to HTTPMediaIO::UpdateSize():
<Vidrep_64> I'm just speculation based upon the timeline when it started crashing on me
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