<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 6c0b410650c6 - kernel/slab: Fix build with SLAB_ALLOCATION_TRACING enabled.
<Coldfirex>
waddlesplash: shouldnt that change be shown in Gerrit under merged?
<waddlesplash>
no, gerrit doesn't track changes pushed directly to master without a gerrit change
<Coldfirex>
ah, didnt know that was a thing (bypassing gerrit)
<waddlesplash>
yes, we don't have any policies requiring committers to push to gerrit
<waddlesplash>
most developers now choose to have their work reviewed by others, and I do push more "dangerous" patches up for review
<Coldfirex>
thanks
<waddlesplash>
but I still generally choose to bypass gerrit for things I'm confident in, as I've generally been a "higher-volume" developer
<waddlesplash>
and especially now that I'm working on Haiku as a job, it makes more sense to push most stuff directly
<Coldfirex>
understood, just curious
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<jt15s[m]>
Someone on Discord is interested in testing Haiku and reporting bugs etc., should they use R1B3 or the nightlies? I've just said that it's probably better to test R1B3 since that's the stable version and the one most users tend to use
<jessicah>
waddlesplash: eh, just because you're on contract doesn't mean you should bypass review
<jessicah>
simple stuff like that, naturally not worth review
<waddlesplash>
jessicah: yes, for anything "controversial" or that deserves a look, sure, I'll post for review
<waddlesplash>
but we didn't use to throw everything on Gerrit and there's no requirement for it (tqh has just been committing code recently for instance)
<waddlesplash>
so, I'll use my best judgement, but that is probably going to be to commit directly more often than not
<jessicah>
no, but it went to the mailing list and then got reviewed post-commit, which wasn't ideal
<jessicah>
hence why we set it up in the first place :)
<jessicah>
jt15s[m]: nightly sees fixes first, so I'd prefer users use nightly to report bugs, personally
<jt15s[m]>
Ah ok
<jessicah>
generally nightlies are pretty stable IME
<jt15s[m]>
Question: is it possible to switch repositories to go from Beta 3 to Nightlies?
<jessicah>
yep, just update the repo links
<jt15s[m]>
Thanks!
<jessicah>
I always use pkgman, not sure if the Repositories app can do that or not
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<mrentropyvcs>
It's all the same thing.
<jessicah>
under the hood it is :) I just don't know how easy it is to do in that app
<jessicah>
never used it :)
<mrentropyvcs>
Why, everything that's Haikunated is easy breezy.
<exit70[m]>
on beta versus nightly are there examples post-release fix for betas?
<jessicah>
I don't know
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<repetitivestrain>
jessicah: thanks
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<mrentropyvcs>
Groovy. BIOS update, but it didn't reset Secure Boot.
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<countryboy>
mrentropyvcs: entropy goes down when a child born => a new children is perfect ...
<mrentropyvcs>
Huh. I was unaware.
<countryboy>
mrentropyvcs: a sequoia pushes the water up to 100 meters => free work
<yann64[m]>
here we go again with of-topic "philosophy" and facts...
<countryboy>
i apologize ...
<yann64[m]>
back on topic :) : countryboy, is haiku your primary OS?
<countryboy>
1 pc thinkcenter with haiku + 1 toshiba with linux mint
<countryboy>
lenovo @ haiku native like extrowerk
<yann64[m]>
good! most hardaware is supported on the Lenovo? I have Dell latitude and it is all good (sound using opensound though)
<countryboy>
i have seen haiku hardware page and bought thinkcenter
<mrentropyvcs>
Sound on the VCS confuses me.
<yann64[m]>
Is it HDA? On my latitude I had to tweak outputs to make it work.
<countryboy>
a page said thinkcenter is fully supported ...
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<yann64[m]>
Will have at one point to check the native HDA driver to see if additional models (including mine) can be added.
<yann64[m]>
But kind of worried it may be out of my knowledge (never did driver coding)
<mrentropyvcs>
I think it's hda. I get a volume icon and Audio mixer in Media preferences, but everything is blank. I know I won't get sound, because it's HDMI, but I would think something would show up in the mixer.
<yann64[m]>
countryboy: good thing, going directly for suppiorted hw :)
<countryboy>
yes, i choose 1 fully supported and my brother made a present 2 me ... ;-)
<yann64[m]>
mrentropyvcs: you will now by listing devices in the terminal
<yann64[m]>
mrentropyvcs: if confirmed HDA, I had more luck using OpenSound driver (and blacklist native driver)
<repetitivestrain>
by the way, i think the documentation is a bit vague on exactly what the floating subset window feel does
<repetitivestrain>
because i can't seem to get this to work
<repetitivestrain>
if i understand it correctly, adding window A to window B's subset and setting A's feel to B_FLOATING_SUBSET_WINDOW_FEEL should cause A to display above B whenever B is frontmost
<repetitivestrain>
but it seems to just stay invisible
<mrentropyvcs>
yann64[m]: I don't think it matters yet, until HDMI sound is working.
<yann64[m]>
mrentropyvcs: on physical output is HDMI on this machine?, if yes indeed to much to do :(
<repetitivestrain>
ahh nvm, I think I have it figured out: you have to set window A's feel to B_FOO_SUBSET_WINDOW_FEEL before you can add windows to it's subset
<yann64[m]>
repetitivestrain: you'll get faster / more precise answers pushing coding subject to #haiku-dev
<repetitivestrain>
okay, thanks for the advice
<yann64[m]>
#haiku is more end-user oriented (although coding can be discussed, but is not the main focus)
<mrentropyvcs>
yann64[m]: Yeah, sound can only escape via the HDMI port. I have a DeskMINI with almost identical sound hardware and a phono out, and sound works fine on that one.
<yann64[m]>
mrentropyvcs: ok, no luck for now then
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<mrentropy64>
Is the repository for the nightlies listed on the Haiku website, somewhere?
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<jt15s[m]>
Are you referring to the Nightly download page?
<jt15s[m]>
If so, the link to that was accidentally removed when the Beta3 release notes were being written
<mrentropyvcs>
I see the nightly page, but I don't see the repository address. I want to switch one of my computers to nightly, but I don't want to re-do it by using a nightly install image.
<mrentropyvcs>
That looks the same as what it already has.
<beaglejoe>
You should be good then
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<mrentropyvcs>
It boots up after updating, so, so far so good.
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<Coldfirex>
Is there any documentation that walks through the process of updating a software's recipe? I see the documentation on haikuporter itself, but not that aspect
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<Anarchos>
i have some writable files (two templates) that come with a text editor. should i put them in /var/.... in the GLOBAL_WRITABLE_FILES list in the recipe ?
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<countryboy>
hi BrunoSpr
<Coldfirex>
waddlesplash: thanks for pushing!
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<BrunoSpr>
same with english: Rubbish bin works!
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<waddlesplash>
Coldfirex: np
<Begasus_32>
*** Failed to download package poppler_x86_devel: Interrupted system call
<Begasus>
what's up with this?
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<Animortis>
We don't use a wiki, right?
<BrunoSpr>
Begasus, I have no problem with the Trash Icon so I will forget about it
<Begasus>
So far things look ok on my side too (no nightly) BrunoSpr
<Begasus>
tried a few times, trying to bump TeXstudio that needs it, rebuilding it now localy
<Begasus>
same issue with haikuporter and pkgman ...
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<Begasus>
Coldfirex, it downloaded the source for texstudio without problems before, so I don't think it's a network issue
<Animortis>
Sometimes you get those package issues when they're being updated
<Animortis>
I just hit the same issue on a qemu install and re-did it and it's fine this time
<Begasus>
No updates on poppler (buildmaster is iddle anyway for about 4 days)
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<waddlesplash>
Animortis: there's Trac's wiki but we are trying to get whatever developer docs are in there out of it
<waddlesplash>
similarly all developer docs need to get out of the website, and either into the Haiku Developer Book or the Haiku Internals Book
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<Begasus>
Maybe at some points a "Haiku Bible" (still have a hard copy of the BeOS Bible here) :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus just try betex instead ;)
<Animortis>
I keep thinking of my desire to update the framebuffer resolution and how a centralized location for guides like that would help. Then the Arch wiki comes to mind for Linux.
<Begasus>
It's not about trying it (no clue about using LaTeX :) ), just texstudio has had a bump and it's one of the recipes I have my hand in :)
<Anarchos>
waddlesplash where is the haiku internals bool located ?
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<Begasus>
Anarchos, does BeTeX even use Texlive? (last time I looked at it it needed to set the path manually to find the correct binaries)
<Anarchos>
Begasus well to be fair, i made a huge work to let BeTeX work again in a stable state. i have not publish it yet
<Begasus>
Could have a look (when I get to it) Anarchos (you can poke me in private if you don't want to push it here) :)
<Begasus>
Latest changes on HaikuArchives are 7 years old there
<Anarchos>
Begasus as i said, i have to push changes (or a recipe)
<Anarchos>
but i have the templates that i don't know where to put them
<Begasus>
OK, I'll guess I'll see itpassing by then :)
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<DKnoto>
Anarchos, Only in Linux there is no such blurring and overlapping of images ;-)
<Anarchos>
DKnoto yes, i was afraid to land into KDL ...
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<DKnoto>
I did the maximize on the terminal window and everything almost refreshed, then I drove the cursor a bit and the screen was back to normal ;-)
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<Anarchos>
DKnoto i did the same
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<Vidrep_64>
Hi
<Vidrep_64>
waddlesplash, just saw your responses on HaikuArchives
<Anarchos>
Vidrep_64 it reminds me i must pull-request my latest betex to haikuarchives
<Vidrep_64>
I'll need to look at DVDA Author again. It's been a long time since I made a DVD audio disc
<Vidrep_64>
waddlesplash, since you're looking at apps in HaikuArchives, may I suggest having a look a PhotoGrabber?
<Vidrep_64>
Currently it crashes after each drap and drop operation
<Vidrep_64>
There's an open ticket for the issue
<Vidrep_64>
About a month ago I did a build of PhotoGrabber with Clang scan-build. It found a bunch of issues. I can provide the report if needed.
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<Vidrep_64>
Hi Anarchos
<Anarchos>
hi Vidrep_64 :)
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