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<utente>
hi. just istalled beta3. SoftwareUpdater is still "all or nothing", i mean that i cannot choose WHAT to upgrade, i can only ulgrade all package proposed or nothing at all. ith will be nice to have a checkbox near every packages proposed for upgrade, because not always i want to upgrade all (ie: i dont care at all to upgrade packages of languages that is not what i use).
<utente>
HaikuDepot does not show the number of available packages.
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<countryboy>
hello
<PulkoMandy>
utente, you can just uninstall the userguide language packages that you don't use. Then they won't update anymore
<utente>
PulkoMandy, thanks, but that is a workaround, the "goal" is to have - if and when possible - a checkbox near all pagakege candidate to upgrade.
<PulkoMandy>
if you don't need the new package, you also don't need the old version of the package. I don't see why you would want to keep old versions of some packages
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<utente>
PulkoMandy, i am just doing a coparation with GNU/Linux (my main OS). somethime i neet to take a old version of software (ie: i take old version of crome but i upgrade firefox). I can choose shat to upgrade and wat to not upgrade. It is a matter of flexibility and freedom of choiche. haiku force me to do "all or nothing" using haikudepot. so, i think it wll be appreciable to introduce more flexibility also into haikudepot.
<PulkoMandy>
currently you can update individual packages using pkgman
<utente>
PulkoMandy, ops! did not know. thaks.
<utente>
thanks.
<PulkoMandy>
if you want to add checkboxes to softwareupdater, patches welcome. Currently they are not there. We probably should add them
<PulkoMandy>
that's all I can offer for now
<utente>
PulkoMandy, whait you offer came for free, so i cannto complain about "if and when". by the way, im using haiku (sometimes) since fist alpha in 2009 ;)
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<PulkoMandy>
I'm not completely happy with the handling of the userguide packages yet, and also not really happy with the UI of haikudepot and softwareupdater. But lately I had not a lot of time to work on these, and pkgman works good enough for me, so, I don't feel a lot of motivation to do it
<utente>
PulkoMandy, im here not to complain but just to say "dudes, this is - to me - a good idea, i put in the IRC, maybe someone think the same". I am not hurted if noone share my feeling.
<utente>
so, if it came, "oh, good", if it not came, "hey, i just tried"
<PulkoMandy>
yes, you're right, but maybe it would be better to log this as a ticket on the bugtracker (if there isn't one already)
<listening>
^On the 1st of January, 1998, Bjarne Stroustrup gave an interview to the IEEE's Computer magazine.
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<Coldfirex>
PulkoMandy: Would it be possible for me to get extra permissions on trac to be able modify tickets and put them in the correct component area?
<PulkoMandy>
countryboy, no, it's not a microkernel
<PulkoMandy>
Coldfirex, maybe, if you comment on tickets saying which category they should be in, and the people watching the trac tickets see you get it right, and get bored of doing it for you 🙂
<Coldfirex>
hah, fair enough
<PulkoMandy>
(we are slightly restricting this access because it's a bit all-or-nothing in Trac, and we had people get access and then move tickets to the wrong places, or close them for no reason or assign them to people or do other strange things)
<Coldfirex>
10-4
<nephele[x]>
listening: why not just link to cat -v directly?
<mrentropy64>
Hi, folks.
<nephele[x]>
Good day :)
<mrentropy64>
Howdy, nephele.
<mrentropy64>
Hmm. I can't find a bug for unstacking windows and leaving a garbage tab on the screen. Unless I'm not searching for the right thing?
<mrentropy64>
x512[m]: Thanks! Detached was a word I didn't try.
<mrentropy64>
I just tried 'tiling' for the first time.
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<mrentropy64>
I would've seriously maimed someone for Stacking in the BeOS days. I used to manually adjust the tabs all the time.
<nephele[x]>
app_server puts window too high when trying to align to top when opening new window... maybe it has a hardcoded offset
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<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/JRXf0
<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] jmairboeck c0e2a15 - guile: move the guile interpreter tools to a 'tools' subpackage like guile1
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<countryboy>
hello
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<mmu_man>
cool my patches for ConfClerk have been merged
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<HaikuUser>
So, anybody else having issues opening DriveSetup on the latest nightly revision x64?
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<HaikuUser>
Also kallisti5 , you did/do radeon, right?
<HaikuUser>
Well, even though I could never get Haiku to boot on my Vega 56 without using safe video mode, my 6700XT boots fine without that switch toggled. All works grand, even on a 21:9 monitor of 3440x1440p
<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-3/±0] https://git.io/JRX6T
<Not-5835>
[haikuports/haikuports] hanya 977e201 - mozc: bump to 2.26.4451.1 (#6116)
<Coldfirex>
and there is a bug report on clicking disable not actually stopping the service. If you reboot after clicking disable it will be off
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<nephele[x]>
I am confused because i don't see any process for it in the "cpu usage" list
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<nephele[x]>
On an unrelated note, is there prior art in Haiku for a Soundtest application? something to test speaker polarity, assembly (left/right) connection quality etc. with sound tests? I am contemplating writing something like this because I am sick of having to search for youtube videos or something to test this
<Coldfirex>
nephele: you should be able to see it in top or ssomething like "ps aux | grep -i ftp"
<nephele[x]>
There is no ftp process running
<nephele[x]>
I assume it could be in net_server directly?
<Animortis>
What's the best matrix client, do we think?
<Animortis>
On Haiku
<bbjimmy>
search for nheko or Quaternion in haiku depot
<bbjimmy>
both are matrix clients. I never used either.
<jadedctrl>
I've found quaternion to be pretty unstable (and doesn't support OLM either)
<jadedctrl>
didn't know there was an nheko port! has olm too, rad
<nephele[x]>
quaternion is unstable?
<jadedctrl>
sorry, *unstable when using with pantalaimon
<nephele[x]>
what's the point of using e2ee if you use a gateway...
<nephele[x]>
quaternion is working on e2ee, it's not finished (and we also don't have the latest latest quaterion), if you don't care about e2ee both are fine to use, i guess. for haiku specific bugs you can probably annoy me (for both quaternion and nheko)
<Animortis>
Ah ty
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<nephele[x]>
(I tested quaternion for years, even before beeing on haiku, and i ported nheko, so guess I am the goto guy... even if i don't use matrix that much anymore)
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<Animortis>
One day I'll escape the framebuffer trap.
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<exit70[m]>
hi, curious what are some beefy machines that are being used to develop haiku (or is it so lightweight that no beefy machine required)?
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<mrentropy64>
Interesting. The Steam controller works in Haiku.