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<SLema> Hey there
<erysdren> hi
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<x_> anyone else had a problem verifying the .iso using the .minisig?
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<x_> i get an error saying sig key id in .minisig is F95B2E46C5B77DCF but the key id in the public key is ABADC0DD0F45C8DF
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<erysdren> morning begasus
<CalistoMathias> good morning Begasus erysdren
<Begasus> Hi erysdren CalistoMathias
<Begasus> time to check newer imagemagick (getting error on 32bit) :)
<Begasus> patchset applies cleanly still :)
<Begasus> eeps: /packages/libxml2-2.12.5-2/.self/develop/headers/libxml2/libxml/encoding.h:28:10: fatal error: iconv.h: No such file or directory
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<Begasus> checking 32bit :)
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<OscarL> morning Begasus.
<Begasus> morning OscarL!
<OscarL> lxml2_devel might need to require iconv_devel after all?
<OscarL> (saw similar _devel reqs while testing the "cd" recipe lately, besides what we talked for the lxml_python recipe)
<Begasus> yeah, this is the second one in just 2 days
<Begasus> for now added iconv_devel to imagemagick, need to test on 32bit (failure on building tuxpaint with the current)
<Begasus> maybe you could do that OscarL?
<OscarL> after I finish tesing my "zsh-starterpack" recipe... sure.
<Begasus> I didn't get an error on imagemagick on checking for iconv, so it's not related to that
<Begasus> thanks
<Begasus> related issue on imagemagick it seems: https://github.com/ImageMagick/ImageMagick/issues/6891
* OscarL keeps tripping over "srs vs dest" parameter order on most *nix tools :-D
<Begasus> seems they only had a week between our current version and the next release :)
<Begasus> did a build for fuse_smb and samba4 yesterday, worked out fine :)
<OscarL> cool, plenty of folks want to use smb :-)
<Begasus> the recipe is far from being polished :)
<akash> Will the project ideas not worked on this gsoc show up in gsoc 2025?
<Begasus> we're still 2024?
<Begasus> ah ... not awake enough ;)
<Begasus> well, if smb4 is planned for next year, there would be a base for it then ;)
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<Begasus> k, tuxpaint rc finished :)
<Begasus> imagemagick-6.9.4.0-1 (from x86 repo in Haiku's source, is that even used?) :)
<OscarL> dang! can't make https://github.com/jirutka/zsh-shift-select work on Haiku (at least not on my first try) :-(
<Begasus> then you can fix libxml2? ;)
<OscarL> shells not allowing SHIFT+arrows text selection by default on the prompt-line... in 2024... pretty infuriating.
<OscarL> Begasus: I'll probably switch to try that, yeah... so much for my "zsh-starterpack" :-D
<Begasus> that's an easy one, after that I can push a version bump on imagemagick :)
<OscarL> rembember that I'm slower than a narcoleptic sloth :-D
<Begasus> you might want to fix ordening in BUILD_REQUIRES while you're at it :)
* OscarL should have a "git puma" alias (pull upstream master).
<Begasus> gmp* here :)
<Begasus> pull upstream/push origin
<OscarL> I got "git cane" (commit --amend --no-edit), and "git lol" :-D
<Begasus> oh, that's a nice one "git cane"
<OscarL> "alias.df=diff --word-diff=color" is also nice sometimes.
<Begasus> not using diff that much here
<Begasus> hmm ... maybe I do, combined with git
<OscarL> yeah, that's my "git df" alias.
<Begasus> k, I got my PR up :P
<OscarL> mmm, why do I have libxml2-2.10.4.tar.xz next to the .recipe, lol.
<OscarL> k, sorted BUILD_REQS... added "devel:libiconv$secondaryArchSuffix" to REQUIRES_devel...
<OscarL> anything else?
<Begasus> nope, should do it
<OscarL> building, just in case.
<Begasus> already did a check here :)
<OscarL> NOW you tell me :-P
<Begasus> wanted to know if it worked for imagemagick before I pushed for the PR :P
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<OscarL> that's what you get for being so fast next to me :-D
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<OscarL> darn waiting for ... deactivated :-(
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/48ef63e9830a...9490deae17dd
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 9490dea - libxml2: make _devel package require iconv_devel. (#10687)
<Begasus> thanks!
<Begasus> I'll wait untill this starts on buildmasters before I merge imagemagick
<OscarL> yeah... and I'll remove the iconv_devel req from lxml.
<OscarL> (before we forget)
<Begasus> +1 (cleanup) :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9490deae17dd...733411cfefed
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 733411c - imagemagick, bump version, fixes 32bit issue (#10686)
<Begasus> k, packages updated localy for 64bit
<OscarL> man... lxml build is slow :-). PR open.
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/733411cfefed...32670591be3d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 3267059 - lxml: remove req on iconv_devel, now that devel:libxml2 handles it. (#10688)
<Begasus> thanks :)
<OscarL> np :-)
<OscarL> back to noteshrink, I guess (with a "quick" detour into scipy land... /me shakes in fear).
<Begasus> eeps :-)
<OscarL> mmm, setting TMPDIR to "/var/shared_memory/tmp/" breaks ssh-agent.
<Begasus> don't do that? :P
<OscarL> "unix_listener: cannot bind to path /boot/system/var/shared_memory/tmp/ssh-ioMbSAKaTLC4/agent.14213: Operation not supported"
<OscarL> I would like to use RAMFS for temp dirs... but in Haiku... it breaks pkgman/packagekit, and now ssh-agent :-(
<OscarL> would be cool if RAMFS supported lzo/zstd compression, too :-)
<OscarL> put swap file in compressed RAMSFS... PoorMan's zram/zswap :-D
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<OscarL> cpu temp sensor on the Atom N455 seems pretty unreliable (even on linux)... No way it is currently at "57.0°C" (2°C ambient... netbook is *pretty* cold).
<OscarL> acpi-tz's 52°C still sounds pretty bogus :-D
<OscarL> might be missing a negative offset of something, because I think I never saw it below 45.
<Begasus> atleast something to keep you warm :)
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<Begasus> heading out in a bit, chores at the dogschool :)
<OscarL> see ya!
<Begasus> in a bit* :)
* OscarL pushes Begasus out of the front door already.
<Begasus> ok ok ... cu later :)
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<x_> ffs
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<phschafft> Habbie: writing down a few things. maybe you can have a look once done.
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* coolcoder613 waves, takes a cookie
<phschafft> good evening coolcoder613 :)
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<OscarL> I need a Tracker (or registrar?) setting so "Open with..." only queries for apps in the /boot/ volume.
<OscarL> getting entries for 32 bits binaries when I'm on 64 bits... or getting duplicated entries (and failed haikuporter builds) because it shows stuff from hp's chroot "system" is getting annoying :-)
<phschafft> Habbie: that link was for you btw.
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<Habbie> phschafft, looks thorough :)
<phschafft> hm.
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<CalistoMathias> heyyyy... By any chance does anyone know any starting point on how I would go about creating only the arrow part of a BMenuField?
<CalistoMathias> apart from building a child version of a BView from scratch?
<CalistoMathias> basically I want it to do the exact thing that it does in the BMenuField just without the remaining part of the BMenuField?
<OscarL> CalistoMathias: you mean drawing the ">" next to a submenu?
<CalistoMathias> OscarL: similar but not exactly.. the ⬇️ arrow that is there in a BMenuField...
<CalistoMathias> like at the very end
<CalistoMathias> the small one :)
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<OscarL> too bad, because I had a link if it was the former :-D
<CalistoMathias> ohhh okay
<CalistoMathias> btw for the thing you mentioned I remember seeing PulkoMandy doing something on it right?
<CalistoMathias> like I remember seeing some change on that :D
<OscarL> yeah, that was whay I was to link: https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/6095
<CalistoMathias> ohhhh okay :)
<CalistoMathias> yahhh I was seeing that a lot to try and check a similar sort of thing on the MenuField.h and MenuField.cpp files
<CalistoMathias> but couldn't locate it :(
* OscarL takes a look, just in case.
<CalistoMathias> thanks :)
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<OscarL> LowerScroller::Draw() on MenuWindow.cpp ?
<OscarL> CalistoMathias: "FillTriangle()" at least sounds suspicious :-P
<OscarL> Also the comment: "// Draw the lower arrow." :-D
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<CalistoMathias> oohhhh
<CalistoMathias> ill look into that
<OscarL> CalistoMathias: Maybe you can reuse "BMenuScroller" and its derived classes? https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/kits/interface/MenuWindow.cpp#n144
<CalistoMathias> i was just trying to find it in the MenuField.h and MenuField.cpp files ... i guess I was looking in the wrong location :(
<CalistoMathias> ohhh okay OscarL
<CalistoMathias> ill try to look into that and hopefully find a way to just use it directly :)
<OscarL> I just TextSearch'ed for "arrow" on kits/interface :-D
<CalistoMathias> i was only text searching on the MenuField files :(
<CalistoMathias> stupid me xD
* CalistoMathias prays to god to give him some more brain cells
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<CalistoMathias> but if this works i'd basically have much of the stuff figured out :)
<OscarL> code-stealing, err...reuse, for the win!
<CalistoMathias> btw OscarL... i kinda messed up with my git stuff as in a lot of the times i forgot to commit on my local branches regularly... so at the moment to fix that im planning on pushing a new Gerrit PR with smaller chunks for review... does it have to be something like the thing that goes into Gerrit can also be like an on-going work?
<CalistoMathias> cuz there is still quite some stuff to do
<CalistoMathias> so im thinking of breaking all of this up into smaller commits
<CalistoMathias> the new TFindPanel.h and TFindPanel.cpp files that im working now is easily going above 1000 lines of code :( a bit ported from the old file panel code and mostly from the new find panel code :)... what do you suggest I do?
<OscarL> CalistoMathias: even ouside of gerrit context, you're always free to work on a branch... comit early, commit offten, and then you can squash/rebase, whatever, and push "clean up" versions of your commits for review.
<CalistoMathias> yahhh exactly the thing I messed up... it completely skipped my mind to commit often
<CalistoMathias> so now i'm kind of stuck in a bad place for review of code
<CalistoMathias> so should I just break it down slowly and make commits from this
<CalistoMathias> and then push that onto Gerrit?
<OscarL> Ask your mentor, but you can also push a "series" of related commits for review.
<CalistoMathias> and every commit would be a separate entry on Gerrit right?
<CalistoMathias> oh also I had sort of a weird question
<CalistoMathias> the folder filter that im going to push soon is kind of dependent on code that is still up for review
<Habbie> waddlesplash, i need to tell you this to jinx it: 57820 has been compiling haiku in a loop on 4 CPU cores for almost 14 hours now
<OscarL> yes, because that's how gerrit reviews work (unlike "PR" on github, for example, where you "push a branch")
<CalistoMathias> alright then... i'll break chunks of code into like smaller sections and put those up as certain commits
<OscarL> nice Habbie! :-)
<Habbie> :))
<OscarL> CalistoMathias: so far, I only ever pushed single commits into Gerrit, so I'm not up to speed on the details regarding multi-commit submissions, but I'll try to find an example, so you can see how it looks at least.
<CalistoMathias> yup
<CalistoMathias> thanks a lot OscarL
<CalistoMathias> you're a saviour for me :)
<OscarL> CalistoMathias: take https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/7836/ for example... Notice the top right: "relation chain" and "submitted together".
<CalistoMathias> oh alright... lemme just take a look
<PulkoMandy> Yes, gerrit will create a "relation chain" and we can look at that as well as each separate commit
<CalistoMathias> ohhh alright
<CalistoMathias> and supposedly if I was having to ammend a certain commit, i would need to do something slightly different right?
<CalistoMathias> since the --amend only uses the latest commit that I made?
<OscarL> "git rebase -i" lets you do all sort of things... squash, drop, edit/ammend commits...
<OscarL> assuming "deadbeef" is and old commit I want to change (say... 4 commits before current state).... I would do: "git rebase -i deadbeef~"
<OscarL> then change the "pick" for the first commit, and change it to "edit", and follow the git instructions.
<OscarL> CalistoMathias: you can always create a branch for practice.
<CalistoMathias> yup I was doing that right now
<CalistoMathias> gonna just run all this stuff
<CalistoMathias> ive only been using basic commands till now
<OscarL> just be sure to name it PRACTICE so you don't then delete/cleanup the good one :-P
<CalistoMathias> yup xD
<OscarL> *practice or whatever, of course.
<CalistoMathias> yup :)
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<OscarL> git can be crazy/scaru at first, but you'll get there! Even *I* haven't had to "rm -f src/" and "git clone" again in a couple of years :-)
<PulkoMandy> For the menu popup button, I have an example, I will have a look when I'm back at my computer after lunch
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<CalistoMathias> oh okay thanks a lot PulkoMandy
<CalistoMathias> OscarL: Yup... I think the only way ill get that is through practice like this xD
<CalistoMathias> have to figure it out though sooner or later :)
<OscarL> baby steps, and write your own "git-cheat-sheet.txt" (mine still linked on the Desktop :-D)
<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
* OscarL waves andreasdr[m] in a piratey way (assuming there's one). Arrr!? :-)
<andreasdr[m]> Arrrr. OscarL.
<andreasdr[m]> :DDD
<OscarL> great, trying to rebuld scipy (before attempting to move to newer versions) exposes a bug on our Python 3.10's sysconfig.py (missing "platinclude" path data). Sigh.
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<OscarL> Mmm, apparently it should be possible to build bash without dependency on (system wide) libreadline.
* OscarL is just looking for excuses to drop scipy behind for a while again :-)
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<waddlesplash> Calisto: you shouldn't need to copy code here for the menu arrow, it should be reusable
<waddlesplash> Habbie: wow. it was a totally random guess on my part that last week's change would actually affect Bulldozer/Jaguar. kind of crazy if that winds up being the fix!
<Habbie> yeah
<Habbie> i'll leave it going for a while longer
<waddlesplash> OscarL: ramfs not accepting those kinds of files deserves a ticket
<waddlesplash> Habbie: guess we should add a comment to the ticket, if any of the others who commented and reported are still around to test that will be interesting
<Habbie> yeah, let's give it another day first?
<Habbie> i've managed 12 hours before
<waddlesplash> oh, have you? huh
<Habbie> i think so
<Habbie> hm no, last time I said "let's give it a bit longer" was 3.5 hours
<Habbie> and then it immediately died the moment i said that
<OscarL> waddlesplash: will open ticket. I think problem is "crossing device boundaries" more than RAMFS itself (at least for the pkgman/PackageKit issue).
<Habbie> waddlesplash, 3.5 is the longest I can find in older irclogs :)
<Habbie> so the 14h45 i'm on now is excellent
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<OscarL> CalistoMathias: I just noticed that I mixed up what you meant by the "arrow in BMenuField", thus why I lined to the unrelated menuscroller code. Sorry!
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<OscarL> CalistoMathias: BMenuItem::_DrawSubmenuSymbol(), that calls "be_control_look->DrawArrowShape(Menu()...)"
<PulkoMandy> CalistoMathias: http://pulkomandy.tk/projects/renga/browser/Renga/ui/PopupTextControl.h#L49 is what I use for drawing a text control with a popup arrow
<OscarL> bah... nevermind... got it wrong again CalistoMathias :-) /me goes out for food :-D
<Habbie> waddlesplash, oh no :(
<Habbie> waddlesplash, it rebooted
<waddlesplash> darn
<Habbie> still, might be the longest ever
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<Habbie> what if there are five and you fixed three
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57821] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bed49f85a4b0+%5E48c334396088
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] bed49f85a4b0 - OS.h: add a note about B_ABSOLUTE_REAL_TIME_TIMEOUT.
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<Guest1348> re
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<CalistoMathias> Hii
<CalistoMathias> oh alright wait lemme take a look at the links :)
<CalistoMathias> waddlesplash: yah i was thinking the same thing :)
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<Habbie> current uptime is 90 minutes (just noting that so i can calculate back later)
<Habbie> waddlesplash, ah, good comment
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<Habbie> waddlesplash, it's -j40 btw ;)
<Habbie> i figured i'd punish it
<phschafft> hm.
<phschafft> If I shorten the inode table to one pointer per inode and then allow inlines to span multiple entries that would close the gap towards the blocksize.
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<waddlesplash> Habbie: how many physical cores does it have?
<Habbie> 4
<Habbie> GX-415GA https://www.amd.com/en/system/files?file=2017-06/g-series-soc-product-brief.pdf
<Habbie> would it be any use to you to ssh into it?
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<Habbie> waddlesplash, ah, i see the other active user on that ticket also sometimes has luck
<Begasus> Not sure if it means anything, but it appears in the menu :) (fuse_smb with samba4 tracker add-on) https://0x0.st/XMCR.png
<Begasus> well, fuse-smb build with samba4*
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<nephele> waddlesplash, today after boot i got some strange behaviour like deskbar and tracker freezing. Not sure if it is related to your changed.
<waddlesplash> nephele: well, if you could debug, I'd appreciate it
<waddlesplash> check syslog, drop to KDL, etc.
<nephele> It was this morning, afterwards it cleared up. I didn't think to check the syslog at the time
<nephele> what would you expect in syslog?
<nephele> anything in particular?
<CalistoMathias> so PulkoMandy, I saw those files... so for now I can use them as is by copy pasting them into the tracker directory and using them right?
<CalistoMathias> I was thinking of doing a very similar thing :) using a derived version of BTextControl :) but since this is there, I might as well use it :D
<waddlesplash> nephele: I have no idea, depends on the cause
<nephele> I'll check the syslog if this happens again (though running applications is harder in that state)
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<PulkoMandy> CalistoMathias: Yes, if it does whatyou need you can copy and reuse it
<CalistoMathias> oh alright :)
<CalistoMathias> and even if it doesn't I can just use the exact same style or take inspiration :D
<CalistoMathias> thanks a lot PulkoMandy :D
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<AlienSoldier> axeld still have not updated his "The Scheduler" to be haiku compatible. One of the beos app i miss the most, so versatile. I can't use the mouse button on it.
<AlienSoldier> At least it is not in the depot, being unusable in it's state. Launch well that said.
<AlienSoldier> Big thanx to those that helped fixed Mediaplayer subtitles problem btw!!!
<AlienSoldier> that bugged me since quite a while
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<phschafft> ha, it worked!
<phschafft> having an R/G-LED connected to the sleep function of the CPU showing the current busy/idle state.
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<Nephele> if your program is too energy efficient you might cause epilepsy
<phschafft> once the timer API (scheduled for very near future) is ready, I'm sure one could let that thing blink at least at 1kHz using poll() calls ;)
<phschafft> but yes, you can now clearly see when the CPU is waiting for the IO ports.
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<Nephele> phschafft, maybe you can disconnect the IO ports? then you won't have to wait on them
<Begasus> k, pushed the work for samba 4.20.2 to the PR :)
<Nephele> does it support smb2 or newer?
<waddlesplash> AlienSoldier: is it open source?
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<Begasus> no way to really test it nephele :)
<Begasus> pushed them (test packages) to: https://github.com/Begasus/Haiku_Testdrive/tree/master/samba
<Begasus> as always, use at own risk! :D
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<AlienSoldier> waddlesplash i don't think so, but axeld is not dead :) It was free.
<AlienSoldier> it probably don't need much to work again
<Begasus> done for today
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<phschafft> Nephele: the IO port has it's own interrupt driven queue. that is why the CPU can wait on it. otherwise it would busy loop.
<phschafft> I'm sorry for being a bit unclear with that.
<Nephele> phschafft, I was only making a joke
<Nephele> a cpu that has no IO can work on it's own schedule :)
* phschafft nods.
<phschafft> this is part of why I wanted that IO queue. it speeds up database lookups.
<phschafft> as displaying the result to the user now no longer blocks the actual query processing.
<phschafft> (it also helps in many other cases. but this is the most noticeable)
<Habbie> waddlesplash, 7.5 hours and going, it's definitely improved
<waddlesplash> well, I don't know what else there is to try at this point
<waddlesplash> and I suppose it's possible the APIC change isn't the thing that affects this but rather the IO change
<waddlesplash> which will have multiple effects but one of the bigger ones is a lot less IO interrupts under disk load
<Nephele> hmm, git seemed a lot slower though somehow
<Nephele> like really unusably slow in some cases (even moreso than normal)
<Habbie> waddlesplash, right, reduced interrupt count might just mean fewer chances to break?
<waddlesplash> yeah, possible
<Habbie> that fits, of course
<waddlesplash> Nephele: the changes are almost entirely on the write path
<waddlesplash> just reads won't be affected much yet
<Habbie> anything i can do? i think you mentioned serial wouldn't help much, but reproducing in qemu/kvm would be great?
<waddlesplash> yes, but nobody's managed to get this in KVM yet
<Habbie> ok
<Habbie> when i tried, haiku basically didn't work, but i did not try very hard
<waddlesplash> I think people already tried serial and got nothing?
<Nephele> waddlesplash, Hmm, well this was after the system was unstable with deskbar and tracker. But i was only doing git status and git diff and such
<Nephele> doubt that would write much if anything
<waddlesplash> it's possible something got stuck lower down
<Habbie> i believe i have the necessary components to get serial out of this thing, with a night of tinkering
<Habbie> so maybe one day i will
<Habbie> (2.0mm header, DE9 socket, etc.)
<Nephele> a much faster git port in general would be nice :(
<waddlesplash> Nephele: it should be much faster after first run of status due to cache?
<Nephele> it's one of the major productivity hogs. Right after mutliple displays
<waddlesplash> we need to get cold start performance improved but the caches do work
<Nephele> waddlesplash, what do you mean by "first run"? after a cold boot?
<waddlesplash> yes
<phschafft> if git is slow, try 'git gc' (on both sides if you're working with a remote)
<Nephele> Well, no, not really. even in medium sized repos i often get issues that it tells me to use git -uno
<Nephele> phschafft, that's not the issue really.
<waddlesplash> Habbie: hmm I actually wonder, if you're on Jaguar and that's before bulldozer, perhaps I should go looking again for errata or changes in other OSes. last time I looked for Bulldozer specifically and found nothing
<Nephele> waddlesplash, disk caches only mitigate this. Ideally someone should investigate what the git port is doing wrong/inefficient on befs
<phschafft> Nephele: ok. haven't read your context. so just posted the standard first level tech support script-not-brain answer ;)
<Nephele> phschafft, git is slow on haiku in general :(
<Habbie> waddlesplash, right, the two have been conflated in the ticket, which might not be bad but maybe there is more yes
<phschafft> Nephele: hm.
<phschafft> Nephele: unexpected io scheduler thing?
<Habbie> waddlesplash, i have GX-212JC and GX-415GA - saying this just in case you find anything useful to test -between- those two
<Nephele> Well my random guess is that it has problems with BeFS, and does some thing that is really inefficient on it.
<Habbie> also GX-412TC but no video on that one
* phschafft nods.
<phschafft> (just like that bash that took 8 hours to compile. while everything else was much faster)
<Nephele> Habbie, remote app_server? :D
<Nephele> actuall, not sure if that works with no video... it probably wants to start a local one
<phschafft> so, movie night!
* phschafft meanwhile wonders what the fuse status on Haiku is.
<PulkoMandy> Nephele: Git usually use hardlinks which we don't have in bfs, so that's the most likely thing to start with
<PulkoMandy> But also not really solvable
<PulkoMandy> Is it faster when running it on ext2 or fat in haiku?
<PulkoMandy> And on bfs without query support?
<Nephele> I haven't investigated that on haiku, but i know on my webkit build machine git frequently complains that it took a huge time to enumerate files, where it is quite fast in comparison on linux :)
<Nephele> trying on ext on haiku could be a way to investigate this. Why would hardlinks be unsolveable?
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<PulkoMandy> They need changes to the filesystem structure
<PulkoMandy> So it's something for bfs 2.0
<Nephele> No, i mean why would the lack of hardlinks present an unsolveable problem to git?
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