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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/32670591be3d...53e1fcf794d3
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 53e1fcf - marknote, new KDE note taking app. (#10689)
<Begasus> oh bugger, missing one for that :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/53e1fcf794d3...4575ab4cb449
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4575ab4 - kmime, add KF6 library (#10690)
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<Begasus> oh man! I need more coffee I guess :P
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4575ab4cb449...47503af52a6a
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 47503af - kmime24, use correct recipe (#10691)
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<Begasus> hi jmairboeck :)
<Begasus> comming up :) https://0x0.st/XLf7.0.png
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/47503af52a6a...ac54778c006b
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ac54778 - marknote, revbump to trigger build (#10692)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ac54778c006b...da398c1ea320
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] sungsphinx da398c1 - (Needs a new release or a patchset, please do not merge!) ClassiCube: bump version (#10229)
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<Ellenor> / 217
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<HaikuUser> I'm using make to build firebird, but it gives me this error: "bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++: No such file or directory", what library is missing?
<phschafft> hm.
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<phschafft> ha, nephele. just wanted to ping you
<phschafft> was wondering when you would join us. ;)
* phschafft then goes back to the usual mode of offering nephele, but also HaikuUser, a cookie for breakfast.
<HaikuUser> PulkoMandy, any help?
<HaikuUser> phschafft, what I need now isn't a cookie, is a library :)
<phschafft> Guess... that's a no then. ;)
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<FireGalaxy> phschafft, only if with the cookie, cames with a coffee :P
<phschafft> HaikuUser: stdc++ is the C++ runtime. it's strange it's not finding it. maybe some devel package is missing, or the search paths are wrong. but as this looks a bit strange it's outside of what I can directly help you with.
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<FireGalaxy> phschafft, thanks anyway
<phschafft> I can offer you at least 20 different types of hot chocolate. but no coffee I fear.
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<FireGalaxy> is ncurses6 devel available on haikudepot?
<FireGalaxy> I think could the error is related to it....????
<FireGalaxy> I couldn't find it :(
<FireGalaxy> maybe libstdc++ is missing???
<phschafft> I have it e.g. in /system/lib/
<FireGalaxy> boot/system/develop/tools/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/13.3.0/include/c++/bits/unique_ptr.h:65:28: note: declared here 65 | template<typename> class auto_ptr; | ^~~~~~~~g++ -static-libstdc++ /boot/home/firebird/temp/Release/cloop/release/cloop/Action.o /boot/home/firebird/temp/Release/cloop/release/cloop/Expr.o /boot/home/firebird/temp/Release/cloop/release/cloop/Generator.o
<FireGalaxy> /boot/home/firebird/temp/Release/cloop/release/cloop/Lexer.o /boot/home/firebird/temp/Release/cloop/release/cloop/Parser.o /boot/home/firebird/temp/Release/cloop/release/cloop/Main.o -o /boot/home/firebird/gen/Release/cloop/release/bin/cloop /boot/system/develop/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/13.3.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-haiku/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++: No such file or directory
<FireGalaxy> this is the error that I have when using MAKE
<FireGalaxy> phschafft I also have the library... I'm thinking, but till now can't find a solution... thanks for your help
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<phschafft> I'm a bit confused about -static-libstdc++. but not being a C++ developer myself, as said, this is a bit outside my realm.
<PulkoMandy> There is no static libstdc++ on haiku, you have to use the shared one
<PulkoMandy> So, try removing that flag
<FireGalaxy> thanks PulkoMandy !
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<phschafft> PulkoMandy++
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* coolcoder613_ talks about Zed, and it's new Linux support
<phschafft> hm?
<coolcoder613_> My favorite editor, Zed, now has Linux support
<coolcoder613_> That is, it's Linux port is now complete
<coolcoder613_> Before taht it was mac-only
<coolcoder613_> *that
<phschafft> :)
* coolcoder613_ encourages everyone to try it out
<coolcoder613_> https://zed.dev
<phschafft> any specific features you would want to highlight compared to other editors?
<coolcoder613_> no lectron in sight
<coolcoder613_> *electron
<coolcoder613_> written in Rust, very snappy
<coolcoder613_> low latency
<phschafft> is a debian package in the pipeline?
<coolcoder613_> I don't think so
<coolcoder613_> Linux releases seem to be only .tar.gz
<coolcoder613_> Oh, install via `curl https://zed.dev/install.sh | sh`
* phschafft nods.
* coolcoder613_ heads to bed, 'night
<erysdren> night
<Guest1349> "Zed supports GitHub Copilot out of the box"
<Guest1349> hard no from me...
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<erysdren> oof yeah, i didn't see that
<erysdren> that's a pass from me as well.
<coolcoder613_> Supports, not enables
<erysdren> still indicative of their mindset.
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<erysdren> looks like i'll be sticking with Kate + micro :P
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<gordonjcp> coolcoder613_: I don't want it to even be a possibility
<gordonjcp> coolcoder613_: there are already enough bugs in code without allowing random number generators to introduce more
<erysdren> agreed
<coolcoder613_> You have to have a copilot subscription I think
<gordonjcp> yeah fuck that
<gordonjcp> why would I pay to have an Eliza bot introduce bugs into my code
<coolcoder613_> And that's a bit of a side feature
<erysdren> not trying to discount you using it coolcoder. but the copilot stuff is 100% a turn off
<coolcoder613_> I don't use copilot in zed
<erysdren> sorry, i meant zed in general
<coolcoder613_> It's not pushed on me
<coolcoder613_> I would have to look for it if i wanted it
<coolcoder613_> > If you'd rather not have Copilot at all, you can disable it by adding "features": {"copilot": false } to your settings file.
<coolcoder613_> from: https://zed.dev/blog/copilot
<coolcoder613_> Zed is about high performance, and collab
<phschafft> little question: Haiku uses *xattr() callbacks in the fuse API for attributes?
<coolcoder613_> those are it's two main features
<coolcoder613_> I think copilot was added because new shiny
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<FireGalaxy> I was almost there porting FirebirdSQL, I had to change configure.ac and add haiku target in freebsd line, and I run "autogen.sh", I had to install some libraries, and sucessfully run it. After that, MAKE, I had to edit make.rules file and remove static libstdc++ and finally, able to run MAKE
<phschafft> :)
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<FireGalaxy> compilation terminated.
<FireGalaxy> '/boot/home/firebird/extern/editline' /boot/home/firebird/gen/Makefile.extern.editline:65: recipe for target '../temp/Release/libedit.a' failed make[4]: *** [../temp/Release/libedit.a] Error 2 make[4]: Leaving directory '/boot/home/firebird/gen' Makefile:187: recipe for target 'external' failed make[3]: *** [external] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory '/boot/home/firebird/gen' Makefile:324: recipe for target 'master_process' failed
<FireGalaxy> compilation terminated. Makefile:128: recipe for target 'readline.o' failed make[7]: *** [readline.o] Error 1 make[7]: Leaving directory '/boot/home/firebird/extern/editline/src' Makefile:118: recipe for target 'all' failed make[6]: *** [all] Error 2 make[6]: Leaving directory '/boot/home/firebird/extern/editline/src' Makefile:6: recipe for target 'editlinelibrary' failed make[5]: *** [editlinelibrary] Error 2 make[5]: Leaving directory
<FireGalaxy> make[2]: *** [master_process] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/boot/home/firebird/gen' Makefile:98: recipe for target 'firebird' failed make[1]: *** [firebird] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/boot/home/firebird/gen' Makefile:6: recipe for target 'firebird' failed make: *** [firebird] Error 2
<FireGalaxy> Almost there :) ahahahahaa great hobbie adventure :P
<Begasus> re
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/da398c1ea320...7bc946fd1099
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] PocketNerdIO 7bc946f - mame: Bump to 0.266 (#10561)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7bc946fd1099...a6007a44094e
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] sabcha1 a6007a4 - Libresprite: resource fix (#10590)
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<FireGalaxy> In file included from readline.c:52: editline/readline.h:79:10: fatal error: sys/ttydefaults.h: No such file or directory 79 | #include <sys/ttydefaults.h> | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<FireGalaxy> Compilation terminated.
<FireGalaxy> that's the error using MAKE of FirebirdSQL :P almost there :)
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<Begasus> tried searching the system if the header is present?
<Begasus> don't have it installed here on 64bit R1B4
<FireGalaxy> removed that line in readline.h :P trying again
<FireGalaxy> MAKE :)
<FireGalaxy> Begasus, it's on FirebirdSQL source...
<FireGalaxy> I'm doing a make, it takes sometime :)
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<Begasus> Hi OscarL :)
<OscarL> Hola Begasus!
<Begasus> FireGalaxy, I gathered that :)
<FireGalaxy> passed that error, have others... no time to explore them...
<OscarL> FireGalaxy: just a FYI: we have libedit_devel (editline) on the depot, you could try to ".configure" firebird to use that instead of readline (or the included libedit in firebird) if the later are giving you problems.
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<OscarL> darn, too late.
<Begasus> not an easy one to tackle
<OscarL> no wonder I keep walking away from scipy...
<Begasus> still? :D
<OscarL> everytime I try... need something else... either an update that snowballs into multiple ones... or missing recipe/packages :-(
* OscarL takes a look at what the heck "pythran" requires.
<OscarL> "ir scipy" --> only noteshrink mentioned... no wonder why at first I just wanted to drop noteshrink :-D
<Begasus> just drop both? :P
<Begasus> lol
<OscarL> Begasus: last time I've tried... korli didn't liked it :-(
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<Begasus> 8 years no activity?
<OscarL> it is an extremely dead "one-off" project. Even if interesting/cool, not really sure it has actually practical usage (other than forcing us to deal with scipy :-P)
<Begasus> even scipy fails to build here
<OscarL> yeah... current scipy can't be rebuild.
<OscarL> "current" as in... the one in the repos.
<OscarL> thus why I'm looking at the newest version instead... 1.14.0 (after having tried with at least 2 older versions previously)
<Begasus> yeah, tried that
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<OscarL> but of course... latest scipy requires a new package (pythran). and that one needs 2 more that we don't have.
<Begasus> pip install?
* OscarL assumes fetal position, and starts crying on the floor.
* Begasus searches for a pacifier ...
<OscarL> and if "pip install" pulls down more deps? not an option for .hpkg at least.
<Begasus> once luarocks/luajit are done, I'm done with lua also: let them use luarocks :P
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<OscarL> gotta love python packages dependencies... pythran wants any "gast", except 0.6.0 :-D
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> not adding any there any time soon :P
<OscarL> I'll take a quick look at "gast" and "beniget"... unless they are dependency free... I will just stop with this scipy rabbit hole.
<Begasus> given how those dependency work ... good luck :)
<Begasus> ../numpy/_core/src/umath/stringdtype_ufuncs.cpp:1967:34: error: 'islower' is not a member of 'Buffer<ENCODING::UTF8>'
<Begasus> so far for pip install ....
<Begasus> Collecting numpy<2.3,>=2.0.0rc1
<Begasus> so our current version is out of date if pip/scipy pulls the newer in
<OscarL> on requirements/build.txt it says: numpy>=1.23.5
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<OscarL> so we should be good with the one we have packaged at least.
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<Begasus> so maybe one of the other pulls in?
<OscarL> probably pip just tries to use the latest available that satisfies the condition.
<Begasus> it gives a message like: Requirement already satisfied: pybind11 in /boot/system/lib/python3.10/vendor-packages (2.11.1)
<Begasus> Successfully installed beniget-0.4.2.post1 gast-0.5.5 pythran-0.16.1
<Begasus> so that works
<OscarL> build.txt seems to want pybind11 >= 2.12.0
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<OscarL> ok. "beniget" also requires "gast" (and only that).
<OscarL> we have 265 subdirs under /dev-python/... what's 3 more, right? (Sigh...)
<Begasus> make sure it works locally first! :)
<Begasus> still fails on numpy here
<OscarL> first... need to finish the laundry. Darn python deps makes me happy to do house-chores, go figure! :-)
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<Begasus> tsss
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<phschafft> *points something out*
<Nephele> How could you even say that? :'(
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<Begasus> bowl refilled phschafft?
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* OscarL takes another detour... updating Python to 3.10.14, and trying to fix that "platinclude" error while he's at it.
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<OscarL> seems I had started working on this update in April. That saves some time :-)
<OscarL> I think last time I've tried, my PC was giving me all kinds of trouble (not even booting up in the end). Certainly doesn't helps with my focus issues :-P
<Begasus> took a course "angre managment" in between? :)
<OscarL> 5 minutes just to unpack and initialize work git repo. jikes.
<OscarL> Begasus: might have had something to do with my absence for a while :-)
<Begasus> yeah, was about to file a "missing person report"! :)
<OscarL> heh :-)
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<BrunoSpr> Hello OscarL, hello Begasus
<OscarL> Good sunday, BrunoSpr :-)
<BrunoSpr> nice
* OscarL changes preferred app for text/* to Pe (StyledEdit is *almost* never the one I need/want).
<Begasus> Hi BrunoSpr!
<Begasus> basic switch OscarL :P
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<OscarL> wish that actually "stylededit" txt files (ones with changes in fonts) had a different mimetype.
<Begasus> open ticket, label "easy task"? ;)
<nosycat> But is it? How can the system tell?
<OscarL> not sure how easy it would be... unless the sniffer rule notices the extra attributes.
<nosycat> After all the file contents proper really is just plain text.
<OscarL> maybe instead of a separate mimetype... actually "StyledEdit"ed files should have their individual preferred app changed (ie.. StyledEdit could set it self as preferred, if the file actually uses styles).
<phschafft> Begasus: this morning, are they all already gone?
<Begasus> have been away during the day, haven't checked yet ;)
<Begasus> speaking of mime types, kcoreaddons6 messing with shared_mime_info package :P
<Begasus> ah, current 6.2.0 still good :)
<Begasus> 6.4.0 not :P
<OscarL> "Date: Sat Apr 6 23:23:15 2024 -0300" /me forgot to use "--date="$(date -R)"
<OscarL> launched build... hope PC holds up now :-)
<Begasus> keep your friend (heat) close :)
<phschafft> is there any specs on stylededit's format for the formatting?
<OscarL> Begasus: yea... CPU at 42C already (up from ~20 at idle). On summer... these builds have it sweating too close to 60C :-/
<OscarL> phschafft: not sure if theres's much more besides "StyleBuffer.{h,cpp}" under https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/kits/interface/textview_support
<phschafft> thank you.
<OscarL> maybe there's something on and old Be newsletter. I'll try to find something (while waiting for Python to build, or crash my PC).
<phschafft> was asking mostly out of curiosity. so your answer is already more helpful than expected. :)
<OscarL> good, coz couldn't find much more on the Be newsletters (nor on OpenBeOS ones).
<OscarL> "OpenBeOS CVS digest for the 10th of August 2003" heh, remember reading those back then :-)
<phschafft> ha :)
<phschafft> was just wondering generally on how it works. catattr also provides a nice hexdump, so that plus the files is good already :)
<phschafft> nephele commented that it would be interesting to extend this feature to allow e.g. for comments in any file. however he was also wondering about things getting out of sync when unaware programs are writing one side of the other.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9e875c1998b4 - Find Panel: Implement Menu Bar
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] nielx pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57822] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9e875c1998b4+%5Ebed49f85a4b0
<OscarL> ^^: Calisto will be happy :-)
<Begasus> nielx[m] back in the house! :)
<OscarL> yahoo! Python 3.10.14 build ended (real 25m46,263s).
<Begasus> still alive yahoo? ;)
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<OscarL> Apparently, yeah. Mmm... need to disable two more tests to avoid them hang forever. Sigh.
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<Begasus> almost there :)
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<Begasus> k, closing down here, cu peeps!
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<Habbie> waddlesplash, 30 hours! and counting!
<OscarL> Less often winning the "Unscheduled-reboot Lottery" is nice.
<Habbie> yes
<Habbie> but knowing you're still playing is a bit sad
<OscarL> indeed :-/
<Habbie> i think waddlesplash was spot on with "unrelated changes reduced your winning chances"
* OscarL "cheats", and only runs Python the 25 tests that fail. Reduces run-time, but not much the "tests.log" output size left to analyze :-/
<OscarL> but of course... with each test run... a different test decides to hang. Sigh. /me disables test_smptlib.
<OscarL> wonder how many of these failures/hangs are related to: "./Modules/fcntlmodule.c:262:27: warning: initialization of 'void *' from 'int' makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Wint-conversion]"
<OscarL> given that I also get errors related to fcntl.lockf() later on.
<Habbie> the warning itself looks like something that i have very often found harmless in the past
<Habbie> but, i wasn't building python's fcntlmodule
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