<Lubo>
I can try that. Or other iterations. actually I think this is really close to what I am using now. Except I've assigned 2G RAM, and have some other parameters. But nothing that should make anything not boot.
<coolcoder613>
ARe you install 32-bit or 64-bit Haiku?
<Lubo>
32 bit.
<coolcoder613>
*installing
<coolcoder613>
so change that to qemu-system-i386
<coolcoder613>
But whay are you installing the 32-bit version?
<coolcoder613>
*why
<Lubo>
simple, interested in using on old 32 bit hardware eventually.
<coolcoder613>
Ok
<Lubo>
I'm trying your suggestion, so I'm rebooting the VM. Be back later. Thanks.
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
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<Nephele>
Can anyone explain to me what the point is off a *wireless* charger, that goes with a *wire* from a wall socket, that needs magnets to properly align to the device so it can charge it slower?
<Begasus>
not me, lost me halfway of the sentense :)
<phschafft>
wireless power transmission is a something that just doesn't make sense to me at all (given my background in that topic).
<phschafft>
I think it's fashion or something like that.
<phschafft>
from a technical standpoint it makes no sense at all.
<Nephele>
I can "kind of" understand the idea of "just leave you phone on a counter in subway". But in all other aspects it makes no sense to me
<Habbie>
some people like having zero wires visible
<Habbie>
some people want to charge all day and not plug in and out all the time
<Habbie>
i dunno
<Nephele>
Habbie: yes... but, I still have a wire visible!
<Habbie>
you do
<Habbie>
other people might not
<Nephele>
No i mean, my "wireless charging" device can only be charged with something that has a specific shape, and that thing has a wire
<Nephele>
can't even use the idea of "leave it at a counter" here :)
<Nephele>
maybe phschafft can design me a watch that runs on nearby magnetic fields :)
<phschafft>
just a few years ago devices just had contact points on the outside so that you can put them into the charger... no wires, just put them in the right place.
<phschafft>
.... just like the wireless ones. ;)
<phschafft>
only that it doesn't kill the planet.
<Nephele>
well, i used to have a calculator in class that only worked when sitting near a window
<Nephele>
i don't see why a watch couldn't be designed that way
<Nephele>
maybe even using some incoming light, and reflecticing it cleverly to where you want
<phschafft>
self winding clocks have been around for some time. ;)
<phschafft>
they work without sunlight, and they even work in space! ;)
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
we even had self winding cars as a kid :D
<phschafft>
solutions are there. penty. hence my statement that I think it's fashion.
<Nephele>
I think the proper response to "we made a nuclear reactor to power the watch on your wrist!" is "why is your design this power-inefficient?"
<phschafft>
also the 'leave it on the counter' works. it will just go even worse with efficiency.
<Nephele>
people are afraid of usb-jacking. I can understand this somewhat, of course, the fear is made bigger by people advocating wireless charging as a solution :)
<phschafft>
I mean people today accept that only like 10 to 30% of the power they take from the socket actually ends up in the battery.
<phschafft>
with the on the counter thing you just go down to 0.1%. but it does work, no problem.
<Nephele>
phschafft: well that not every power makes it I already knew as a child because I can hear a high frequency tone with most chargers. -> wasted energy into sound
<phschafft>
nephele: so.... you replace USB with wireless USB, yes?
<Nephele>
xD
<phschafft>
(the wireless power standards *CAN* transport data)
<Nephele>
excelent
<Nephele>
well the lan over ethernet was quite unreliable for me
<Nephele>
maybe lan over wireless power works beter
<phschafft>
nephele: with conventional wired technology and a modern adapter you get something like 95%.
<Nephele>
lan over power i ment in the first sentence
<Nephele>
phschafft: at the moment i'm getting nothing. I can't find the damn wired wireless charger
<phschafft>
;)
<Nephele>
I wonder how hard it would be to jack up the device rip out the coil and solder in a usb-c port doing "5v 300ma" xD
<phschafft>
I loved how people in the early 2000s used to glue some rope on the wireless home phones because they lost them all the time.
<phschafft>
but it's much better than having a phone with a wire! ;)
<Nephele>
well, the retracting ones are kind of annoying, it constantly pulls on you
<Nephele>
having a inflexible rope just gives you a limited range
<phschafft>
nephele: for most devices that unit is a seperated one internally contected via.. usb. ;)
<phschafft>
you can also get the 10m extention from the Post with your green rented phone. ;)
<Nephele>
Looks like i could maybe desolder those wires and hook them up to v+ and v- for a usb-c one :3
<Nephele>
remove some foam, drill a hole and it might just be enough space for a flat usb-c connector, or a extended one
<Habbie>
nephele, oh! the wireless charging with specific adapters! sometimes that's the easiest way to waterproof a device
<Habbie>
my watch is like that too
<Nephele>
I don't care about waterproofing at this point, the device is constantly empty because of the damn charger
<Nephele>
if it was usb-c i have those lying around everywhere and it would be easy to charge
<Nephele>
also wireless charging needs a glass back for a phone, so then it's constantly smashed
<Nephele>
and that can be made really annoying to replace by a manufacturer
<phschafft>
nephele: you can't just connect to the coil unless the RX part also supports DC...
<phschafft>
Habbie: never had any problem with water and charging contacts.
<phschafft>
surely a uniform surface can be easier. but it seems that just exposing some metal is also not that complicated.
<Habbie>
uh, right, my watch does expose pads
<Habbie>
i'm mixing things up
<phschafft>
plus is much easier to make a *strong* shell with contacts than wireless something.
<phschafft>
I mean whatever you use for the shell, it must be super thin.
<Nephele>
phschafft: sad
<Nephele>
I wanted to look up the model N° for one Lenovo laptop I have to figure out what to charge it with... BUT the actual jack has a diagramm next to it to explain
<Nephele>
it's 20V and it shows the polarity, excelent. I can mod it to usb-c boards :D
<phschafft>
:)
<Nephele>
everytime i cant find a charger i make it usb-c
<Nephele>
sooner or later i can throw away, or repurpose, all those charging bricks
<Nephele>
gotta say though, for that medion laptop the flex cables were a MAJOR pain
<Nephele>
and i mean *much* much more than flexcables in phones :)
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb 2a859c0 - yt-dlp: update to 2024.07.02
<Begasus>
like in combining them?
<phschafft>
for example we discussed how contact lists and communication software can and should interact.
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<Begasus>
afaik there isn't any contact list software for Haiku yet (or I could be wrong), we got the people files, but I don't know how well they integrate with existing software
<phschafft>
yes that was part of the discussion. that people files should likely be the central element here.
<phschafft>
so software should interact with that and that's basically all there is to this part of the story.
<Begasus>
I was close then :)
* phschafft
nods.
<Begasus>
I think Z* had something in that context
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<Begasus>
bugger, qt5 brings way to much with it on first install (nheko)
<augiedoggie>
if you're bored you can clean up the extra files from the cceleste PR
<Begasus>
extra files?
<augiedoggie>
there were extra files at the top level of the repository in that PR you merged
<Begasus>
no file '/packages/luajit-2.1.1716656478-1/.self/non-packaged/data/lua/5.1/lfs.lua'
<Begasus>
jikes ...
<Anarchos>
i can't understand the "42f+01" string in buf when the format is %.6f" . and i can't understand why i can't see hte value '42.0' in the arg_f value, which is the parameter to printf
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<zard>
"don't know how to make <x86_64>crtbeginS.o"
<Begasus>
part of gcc as far as I remember
<Anarchos>
crtbeginS is a component of libc
<Begasus>
got gcc_syslibs installed?
<zard>
yes
<Anarchos>
i can't understand the "42f+01" string in buf when the format is %.6f" . and i can't understand why i can't see hte value '42.0' in the arg_f value, which is the parameter to vxnprintf
<Begasus>
dbus is somehow an indirect dependency for libQt6Core on Nheko
<Nephele>
uhhh
<Nephele>
well, if that is the case it should be declared for qt6core atleast
<Nephele>
but that sounds really annoying
<Begasus>
I think I had a talk about it with augiedoggie not that long ago for some other package? (don't beat me over it) :)
<augiedoggie>
some packages will generate the runtime_loader error but still continue to run properly
<augiedoggie>
it's not a hard dependency on dbus
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<Begasus>
in this case nheko crashes without (iirc the other one did that too)
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<Begasus>
hi jmairboeck
<Begasus>
enough lua for one day :)
<jmairboeck>
hi Begasus
<jmairboeck>
did installing git_web fix git help?
<Begasus>
ah, haven't tried yet, only checked on a note from nephele :)
<Begasus>
yep working now jmairboeck, thanks :)
<Begasus>
bugger, lost my tabs on Web+ again ... tss
<Begasus>
goog enough for today, cu peeps!
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<ilzu[m]>
Hello. Is any dev with Tracker internals knowledge online? On the summer leave I had time to get back to working on https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/18595 . Which in the current Tracker code would be preferred to copy a file or a folder and it's contents synchronously? FSMoveToFolder? FSDuplicate? There seems also to be (commented out) FSCopyFolder and CopyFolder, but that seems lika a dead code that is not called from anywhere. Currently Tracker
<ilzu[m]>
copies the template files synchronously, which might cause unresponsiveness if using large templates.
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<Nephele>
ilzu[m], copy it in tracker synchronously? don't those functions try to do this asychchronously?
<ilzu[m]>
Nephele @_oftc_Nephele:matrix.org: as it is now, it just reads the source file to 1kb buffer and writes it to destination file and copies attributes afterwards.
<ilzu[m]>
I'd like to change it to do it asynchronously, but I'm not sure which of those functions to use
<ilzu[m]>
Ah, i had typoed on the first message, I meant asynchronously
<ilzu[m]>
s/synchronously/asynchronously/
<Nephele>
that makes more sense, well i think (from what I remember looking at this 2 days ago xD) that FSDuplicate would be correct, however i don't know if this does folders with contents
<ilzu[m]>
From what I've been looking at the code my guess would have been FSMoveToFolder, with setting it to copy instead of move.
<Nephele>
one moment, let me turn on my haiku box :)
<Nephele>
ilzu[m], FSCopyFolder is commented out, but it just calls CopyFolder, and that is available
<Nephele>
but indeed, you are correct that it isn't called from tracker, but i think it should be part of the abi like this, so probably work?
<ilzu[m]>
Yup. But that CopyFolder seems not to be called from anywhere, so I am not sure if it is a leftover dead code from some ancient BeOS release.
<Nephele>
It's called from Installer
<Nephele>
wait no
<Nephele>
it's *defined* in a test for installer
<ilzu[m]>
It might have been used before the package manager in the installer then.
<ilzu[m]>
I'll check if it works later today after I've taken the dogs for a walk
<Nephele>
I don't know, it's defined in one private method for the CopyEngine in the installer test, but even there it's not even defined or called
<ilzu[m]>
And if it doesn't then I'll experiment with FSMoveToFolder and FSDuplicqate
<Nephele>
FSMoveToFolder with the movemode is then likely correct, though i have no idea what the movemode is. it's sadly not defined as an enum
<ilzu[m]>
There seems to be code using it in PoseView, in Drag and drop if I recall, I can check how it is used from there.
<ilzu[m]>
Thanks for your help
<Nephele>
ah, there are defines for it kDuplicateSelection, kCopySelectionTo, kMoveSelectionTo
<Nephele>
you can check MoveTask() in FSUtils.cpp
<ilzu[m]>
Yup. I'll check and experiment after taking the dogs out. In an hour or two.
<ilzu[m]>
Thanks again :)
<Nephele>
Alright :) maybe i'm still arround then, but if not then have fun!
<ilzu[m]>
Will do :)
<Nephele>
on a slightly related note: selecting 600 mp3 file and dragging them in MediaPlayer playlist window freezes it for severall seconds, and that pisses me off xD
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