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<Vidrep_64> wadd
<Vidrep_64> waddlesplash, should we reopen this ticket or have the reporter open a new one? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12534#comment:55
<waddlesplash> new one, different problem
<waddlesplash> I will reply later
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<coolcoder613_nok> Hello all
<zdykstra> Hello, CC613
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<coolcoder613_32> runtime_loader: Cannot open file libtranscript.so.1 (needed by /boot/system/non-packaged/bin/tilde): No such file or directory
<coolcoder613_32> libtranscript.so.1 is in /system/non-packaged/lib
<coolcoder613_32> Anyone know why?
<coolcoder613_32> why this happens
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<OscarL> coolcoder613_32: tilde's buildsystem seems to hardcode the path for the libraries it links to.
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<OscarL> I've had the same issue last years.
<OscarL> I believe that we need to disable the use of RPATH, but I'm not good with build systems / makefiles so...
<OscarL> alternatively, we could try to changes those paths to "./lib" (or just remove them, I think)... using "chrpath"
<OscarL> (I've made a recipe for that tool, with the intention of testing and using it in a future .recipe for tilde)
<scanty> what's tilde?
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<OscarL> a text editor: https://github.com/gphalkes/tilde/
<scanty> ah okay. thanks :^)
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<scanty> haha, it looks like my BIOS menu setup
* Oscar-L loves a good TUI.
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* coolcoder613_32 likes tvedit and turbo
<coolcoder613_32> Are there any other opensource programrs written with tvision?
<coolcoder613_32> besides those on magiblot github
<OscarL> not that I'm aware of. Fixing/adapting tilde might be the best option in the end, as it seems to be the most complete...
<OscarL> too bad I have problems maintaining focus :-/
<OscarL> I should give tilde another try, even if it means patching the binaries with "chrpath", and doing a "manual" install in a recipe :-)
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* coolcoder613 used LD_PRELOAD to get tilde to run
<coolcoder613> still crashed when i tried to open a menu
<OscarL> Only worked for me from its build folder. I think some libs depends on the others. Can you LD_PRELOAD all of them?
* coolcoder613 just found https://github.com/istoph/editor
<coolcoder613_32> LD_PRELOAD='/system/non-packaged/lib/libt3config.so /system/non-packaged/lib/libt3highlight.so /system/non-packaged/lib/libt3key.so /system/non-packaged/lib/libt3unicode.so /system/non-packaged/lib/libt3widget.so /system/non-packaged/lib/libt3window.so /system/non-packaged/lib/libtranscript.so' tilde
<OscarL> re istoph/editor: "qt5-qmake qttools5-dev-tools qtbase5-dev" as dependencies... WTH?!
<coolcoder613> Uses Qt frameworks but not GUI?
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<coolcoder613> OscarL: Have you heard of cppyy?
<OscarL> noup. /me does a search now.
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<OscarL> Interesing. seems we'll need to package https://github.com/wlav/cppyy-backend first, thou.
<OscarL> "[...] including a version of LLVM patched for interactive use [...]" but I ain't touching LLVM any time soon :-)
<coolcoder613> Instant bindings to Python: Just add Water
<OscarL> :-)
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* coolcoder613 is looking for PetePete
<coolcoder613> Or could anyone download VMWare Fusion Player for me?
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* OscarL has "VMware-player-16.1.2-17966106.exe" (215 MB, before VMWare got *way* bigger).
* coolcoder613 needs for mac
<Al2O3> how much bigger did it get.
<OscarL> Al2O3: IIRC > 500 MB.
<Al2O3> dear god
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<Al2O3> did they forget to remove the symbols on the debug version :)
<OscarL> "1.2 GB of available disk space for the application." from https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html :-D
<OscarL> Installer for version 17 seems to be 540 MB in size. Also requires a modern CPU, so... sticking with 16 here :-D
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<OscarL> coolcoder613: can't use use the "Download Now" link from here? https://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/fusion-evaluation.html
<OscarL> 689 MB thou! :-)
<OscarL> s/can't use use/can't you use/
* coolcoder613 wants fusion player, the free-forever version
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<coolcoder613> VMWare_Fusion....dmg is 715MB, but it *is* an universal binary
<coolcoder613> So code for x86 and arm
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* OscarL should have said ~680 MiB, but he's old, and uses MB for both base 10 and base 2
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<coolcoder613> Hello Begasus
<OscarL> Morning Begasus.
<Begasus> HI there coolcoder613 OscarL
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* OscarL tries to build a project... finds the author hardcoded /home/author/src/project paths :-/
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<Begasus> always a nice one :P
<andreasdr[m]> hi there
<Begasus> Arrr andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]> :)
<Begasus> time for the dogs :)
<Begasus> biab
<coolcoder613_nok> Smells of personal-project-nobody-else-will-use
<coolcoder613> Hi andreasdr[m]
<OscarL> Mmm, this thing wants <imgs.h> from OpenBSD's libutil... guess I need to find something simpler :-P
<coolcoder613> What is it OscarL?
<OscarL> coolcoder613: I've seen it in way too many times already. Specially crazy when it is a library + daemon.
<OscarL> zeroconf/bonjour/mdns
<andreasdr[m]> coolcoder613 (@_oftc_coolcoder613:matrix.org): Hi :)
<andreasdr[m]> Hi OscarL
<OscarL> hi andreasdr[m] :-)
* OscarL doesn't wants to have to manually edit barrier's config file everytime my IP changes :-D
<OscarL> barrier server already implements zeroconf, but Haiku's barrier client does not.
<OscarL> I'm toying with the idea of changing that, but... most of the time I don't know what I'm doing :-P
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<OscarL> in any case... at 4:26 AM, doubt I'll make much progress. See you later folks! Have a good one.
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b6d935435973...0081c912c3ca
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0081c91 - gawk, fix installation path for shell scripts (#9982)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0081c912c3ca...59a6549b50bd
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays 59a6549 - amd_microcode: CPU microcode bump (#9996)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/59a6549b50bd...c7f751c15e8c
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays c7f751c - intel_microcode: CPU microcode bump (#9995)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c7f751c15e8c...beafe6a38fb0
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] jmairboeck beafe6a - editorconfig-core-c: new recipe (#9998)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/beafe6a38fb0...9326cecd50c9
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays 9326cec - libavif: bump to 1.0.3 (#9971)
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<Begasus> Your version of CMake may be buggy?? haven't touched that (afaik) :)
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<Begasus> at least not shortly :)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9326cecd50c9...577d33fe630a
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays 577d33f - harfbuzz: bump version (#9986)
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/577d33fe630a...93c00c2300e3
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays 93c00c2 - sqlite: bump to 3.44.2 (#9954)
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<HaikuUser> Hello
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<tinkerer0987> Is someone here?
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<Begasus> tl :)
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<Begasus> bugger ... new qca available ...
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<bitigchi[m]> I am getting Ld not found error if I want to compile an application from the apps/ directory
<bitigchi[m]> I have to compile the whole suite just to test a change
<bitigchi[m]> Any ideas?
<andreaa72> put a variable like LD_PATH
<andreaa72> LD_LIBRARY_PATH
<andreaa72> after i don t know
<Begasus> in the Haiku source bitigchi[m]?
<andreaa72> linux has ...
<andreaa72> it depends how ld works under haiku ...
<Begasus> we are not linux
<Begasus> and we do have LD_LIBRARY_PATH :)
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/93c00c2300e3...c8f178efa735
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c8f178e - qca, bump version (#9941)
<andreaa72> so, export LD_LIBRARY_PATH in initscript or sh config
<bitigchi[m]> Yesterday I was able to compile individual applications, today not
<bitigchi[m]> Beats me
<andreaa72> bitigchi[m] : peace
<Begasus> haven't tried that yet :)
<Begasus> k, enough haikuports checks for today :)
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<jbehnke> Hi, I have a question about keyboard shortcuts. Is there a way in Haiku to set up a shortcut to open up my file folder, such as the home folder? In Linux I have set up a shortcut (Ctrl +super+H) to open my home folder.
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<augiedoggie> You can use the Shortcuts preferences app with a command like `/bin/open /boot/home/`
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<jbehnke> @augiedoggie Thank you! I looked at the Shortcuts app but wasn't sure what command would make this work.
<augiedoggie> there are probably several commands that will work, i usually use /bin/open
<jbehnke> @augiedoggie ok, thanks again! I will try it out later today.
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<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c8f178efa735...6f66512b8eb1
<botifico-ecd96135> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays 6f66512 - bash: bump to 5.2.26 (#9973)
<Begasus> it's busy at the forum, can't keep up :)
<mmu_man> me neither
<Begasus> we're getting old(er) mmu_man :)
<Begasus> k, Falkon is good, but it's not there yet :P
<Begasus> this SystemManager is a nice addition
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<zdykstra> SystemManager is really nice
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57518] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0b733c9c80b3+%5Ea2270c703575
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0b733c9c80b3 - virtio_gpu: initial driver
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<zdykstra> nice!
<andreasdr[m]> Nice. VirtIO GPU Driver. They even can emulate a 3d hw graphics card.
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<puck_> the 3d gpu bits are sadly quite different from the 2d bits
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<andreasdr[m]> Ok
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<Begasus> 3D accel.. yes!! :P
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<Anarchos> Begasus 3d hw emulated is not 3d accel :)
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<Begasus> me trying to be sarcastic Anarchos ;)
<Anarchos> Begasus well tried, i di'nt catch it but now i see it
<Begasus> tomorrow it will be on the forum :D
<Begasus> well, it's good news anyway, but you know how things get out of hand there :)
<Anarchos> when doing 'jam RemoteDesktop' i got «/boot/system/develop/headers/posix/regex.h:25:10: fatal error: compatibility/bsd/features.h: No such file or directory»
<Anarchos> how comes ?
<Begasus> iirc that was fixed or something, did you pull latest changes?
<waddlesplash> yes, need to update
<Anarchos> Begasus i did a git fetch but not a rebase. ddummy myself !
<Anarchos> waddlesplash hello , may i ask some questions if you have time ?
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<waddlesplash> sure
<Anarchos> waddlesplash did you make your mind about gethostid() for the interlips port ?
<waddlesplash> what was there for me to decide? I can't remember
<waddlesplash> gethostid isn't implemented in haiku and won't be (that was decided years ago)
<Anarchos> waddlesplash you are the paid developer :)
<waddlesplash> sure, doesn't mean I know everything :)
<Anarchos> waddlesplash ok i will mock it
<Anarchos> waddlesplash and i couldn't finish the patch for exec() in a non main thread
<waddlesplash> did you ever find out what was doing that?
<waddlesplash> because all the source code you reference to me shouldn't require it
<Anarchos> waddlesplash had no time to tackle it :(
<Anarchos> waddlesplash i am focused on my math verifier :)
<andreasdr[m]> Cool.
<Anarchos> andreasdr[m] you already saw it yesterday, didn't you ?
<AlienSoldier> syandalone mednafen no longer launch (at least on 32 bit)
<AlienSoldier> *stand*stand alone
<AlienSoldier> That is the SDL one
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<andreasdr[m]> Yes. But its still cool.
<andreasdr[m]> :)
<andreasdr[m]> Do you plan to have a view where we can plot math functions f(x) = ...
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<andreasdr[m]> ?
<Begasus> ping timeout andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]> Damn.
<andreasdr[m]> :DDD
<andreasdr[m]> Begasus how is it?
<andreasdr[m]> Whats going on in Haiku universe?
<Begasus> AlienSoldier, the cmd or the app (well seeing the app needs the cmd I guess it would be both) :)
<Begasus> almost at 2k packages in /system/packages :)
<Begasus> fine andreasdr[m] :)
<AlienSoldier> Begasus TYPING FROM COMMAND LINE, IT SHOW STUFF IN TERMINAL AND THEN CRASH
<AlienSoldier> oops, caps lock
<Begasus> first KDE game with the new (RC1) framework andreasdr[m] :) https://0x0.st/H04G.90.png
<Begasus> don't have a game for it here to test AlienSoldier :/
<AlienSoldier> Begasus it run quite a lot, try a ransom NES rom
<AlienSoldier> *random
<AlienSoldier> Can't get Final Burn to display a game either. It start and it display "pause" when clicking out of window but just black screen
<andreasdr[m]> Cool.
<andreasdr[m]> I have Haiku/RISCV running in QEMU.
<Begasus> got already quite a few games* here, but no NES roms afaik
<andreasdr[m]> But how to install development headers?
<Begasus> nice andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]> Trying to compile MiniScript
<Begasus> pkgman install ... :P
<andreasdr[m]> on RISCV?
* Begasus thinks he fails big at being sarcastic today ...
<zard> try \s :P
<andreasdr[m]> Ohhhhh noooo.
<andreasdr[m]> Crash.
<Begasus> eeps :)
<andreasdr[m]> pkgman install haiku_devel results in a crash.
<andreasdr[m]> Damn.
<Begasus> no haiku_devel? jikes, that's about the basics ... not?
<AlienSoldier> nope can't start anything with final burn neo
<andreasdr[m]> Crash!
<andreasdr[m]> No worries.
<andreasdr[m]> Ill check later again.
<andreasdr[m]> But looks hot.
<Begasus> my desktop too :)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57519] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=aeb3a97aba8a+%5E0b733c9c80b3
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] aeb3a97aba8a - XHCI: Properly handle "Length invalid" and erroring TRBs on the endpoint ring.
<Begasus> devel:libKF6ColorScheme$secondaryArchSuffix (new one) :)
<zard> Cool, more KF6!
<Begasus> not in haikuports yet :P
<Begasus> I'll leave that up to the master :)
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<andreasdr[m]> The master. BOWWWWW!
<Begasus> did something explode?
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<Begasus> If only I knew how to test this ... https://0x0.st/H0JK.90.png
<Begasus> Hi KapiX :)
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<zard> Try "f(x) = x^2"?
<Begasus> does that look right? https://0x0.st/H0Jq.png
<zard> Yep :)
<Begasus> thanks :)
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<Begasus> and dbus-launch exits on closing too, nice :D
<andreasdr[m]> Very cool.
<andreasdr[m]> Begasus!
<andreasdr[m]> Can it plot 3d points or functions in 3d space? Need to check. Sometimes its handy.
<andreasdr[m]> Now running debian for riscv.
<andreasdr[m]> :DDD
<andreasdr[m]> Never tried that before.
<KapiX> Hi Begasus :)
<andreasdr[m]> Also I have a vision five 2 but waiting for a next release of their official os.
<Begasus> nah andreasdr[m], won't be there any time soon I guess, or you should build one with the current KDE framework :)
<Begasus> andreasdr[m], there is already Cantor in the depot, that should do the trick too I think?
<andreasdr[m]> I can check.
<andreasdr[m]> :)
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<B2IA> (binky) hello
<Begasus> Hello binky :)
<Begasus> now that's a long time :D
<Begasus> k, recipe for both finished
<Begasus> time to close down in a bit, catching up on the forum first ...
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<Begasus> that's that, cu peeps!
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<zdykstra> seeya B<tab completion failure>
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<coolcoder613_32> Good morning
<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
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* coolcoder613_32 is trying to port zig
<andreasdr[m]> Nice
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<Anarchos> waddlesplash sorry i had to leave to go eating
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<coolcoder613_32> zig isn't happy..
<coolcoder613_32> only build-exe or build-obj is supported in a -Donly-c buildAbort
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<coolcoder613_32> https://0x0.st/H0yb.report
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<erysdren> hey coolcoder, do you know how to switch VLC on Haiku into single window mode?
<erysdren> i don't like having separate windows for the controls and the player
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<zeldakatze[m]> nheko now runs on my computer, it required the dbus daemon
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<B2IA> (binky) hi
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